Author Topic: Is Venus Doom HIM's Heaviest Album? (Read 3430 times)

My Razorblade Kiss · « **on:** April 23, 2008, 09:08:46 AM »

didnt see a thread for this so i figure ill post one

i was thinking about al of HIMs albums and thought to myself whats their heaviest album i think this one and razorblade romance are their heaviest albums

what do you all think? what is their heaviest albums in your opinon?

Tumppa · « **Reply #1 on:** April 23, 2008, 09:18:58 AM »

I think Greatest Lovesongs Vol. 666 is their heaviest album. Venus Doom is pretty heavy too but in my opinion GLS is their heaviest album.

Ziggy18 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 23, 2008, 12:21:49 PM »

i think that glsv666 is, but if they would have kept venus doom sounding like the kiss of dawn demo, it would have been VD instead.

PhiLiz · « **Reply #3 on:** April 23, 2008, 01:09:01 PM »

I think their heaviest album is 'Greatest Lovesongs Vol. 666'... and it is actually very simple to explain why.

'Venus Doom' is a pretty heavy rock album. It has very strong and powerful (Black Sabbath-influenced...) riffs, a frenetic drum work and the songs in general are much more guitar-oriented than the rest of the bands material which gives it a more dirty and kind of "heavy" mood to the album, a little distinct of their trademark Gothic Rock sound.

'Greatest Lovesongs Vol. 666' it's not that dirty and guitar driven. It's much more atmospheric, keyboard based, "melodic" if you will. Overall, it's much more Gothic than "rockish". But there's a twist here... Their first album is much more Metal-related than 'Venus Doom'.
It has the materialization of the band's heavier influences (Type O Negative has to be mentioned here) in an album and everything is much more connected with Metal than 'Venus Doom'.
It's true that it's a more melodic album than 'Venus Doom', but riffs as heavy as the ones in 'Our Diabolikal Rapture' (for example) cannot be found in HIM's latest effort...

Both are heavy albums... but 'Venus Doom' is clearly a Rock album, being 'Greatest Lovesongs Vol. 666' a work with a bigger affiliation with Metal (although it's not quite a Metal album), making it, in my opinion, the heavier album.

Spiritual_takeover · « **Reply #4 on:** April 23, 2008, 04:08:33 PM »

No doubt about it, GLS is their heaviest album. But I hope they keep making heavy and heavier albums. Venus Doom is a heavy one and a change for the better in their style.

My Razorblade Kiss · « **Reply #5 on:** April 24, 2008, 08:13:22 AM »

i didnt even think gls 666 i completley over looked it you guys and girls are right gls is heave with its all tears,Our Diabolikal Rapture,The Beginning of the End it is a great album!

wickedgame_666 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2008, 07:01:51 AM »

gls v666 i reacon but vd is heavy in a pop rock sence

My Razorblade Kiss · « **Reply #7 on:** April 27, 2008, 01:17:20 PM »

eh i think it smiore rock but itdoesnt matter cuz its great

-phalanx- · « **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2008, 02:06:26 PM »

Venus Doom is heavier than Dark Light, but there are still parts of it that appear softly... for example, "Song Or Suicide" ...the softest song on GLV 666, "When Love And Death Embrace", was much heavier!!

My Razorblade Kiss · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2008, 09:04:18 PM »

true true but other then song or suicide and cyanide sun the album is pretty heavy but gls is their heaviest now that i think about it

wickedgame_666 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2008, 08:10:27 AM »

it is kinda hard to tell between gls RR and vd cos there all different, gls and RR are more rawr than vd but then again RR differs from gls so really u cant overly tell

My Razorblade Kiss · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2008, 09:16:28 AM »

You have a point they do all differ in their on way but think about it all of gls are heavy except when love and death embrace and half the songs on razorblade are heavy and half are soft but I still venus doom and gls are the heaviest

wickedgame_666 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 29, 2008, 07:31:31 AM »

u would sway that way with u, but it seems love metal is forgotton, it is a mix of both very soft and heavy, quite well done really

My Razorblade Kiss · « **Reply #13 on:** April 29, 2008, 08:23:29 AM »

love metal i feel only has a couple of heavy songs like buried alive by love,soul on fire,funeral of hearts the rest are slower and softer still great though

wickedgame_666 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 02, 2008, 04:19:44 AM »

true but the heavy songs of love metal have a more venus doom feel to them than the other albums i reacon but love metal is by far the most anthemic album by him

My Razorblade Kiss · « **Reply #15 on:** May 02, 2008, 08:47:49 AM »

Eh I disagree but your opinion is your own but I do agree that love metal is an awesome album

CIG · « **Reply #16 on:** May 02, 2008, 09:31:50 AM »

i think it is the heaviest album...EMOTIONALLY & MENTALLY cuz remember ville wrote these songs all from personal expirience, in GLS vol. 666, it was just about his version of love in a heavy way but i think emotionally and mentally, this is DEFINITELY the heaviest album HIM has put out to the date...

My Razorblade Kiss · « **Reply #17 on:** May 02, 2008, 09:40:29 AM »

Ah good call I didn't think of that at all great response

childindark · « **Reply #18 on:** May 02, 2008, 11:28:36 AM »

heavy doesn't necessarily have to mean fast...in my opinion one of HIM's heaviest songs is the beginning of the end and that one's quite slow...the same goes with it's all tears and for you...I guess you understand that I think GLS V. 666 is their heaviest album

My Razorblade Kiss · « **Reply #19 on:** May 02, 2008, 11:34:36 AM »

Yea I get you everyone thinks its the heaviest pretty much

wickedgame_666 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 02, 2008, 10:34:57 PM »

but then again everyone has different veiws on heavy songs, to them what makes a heavy song/abum, but i agree with childindark beginning of the end heavy! espically the live version

My Razorblade Kiss · « **Reply #21 on:** May 03, 2008, 01:01:16 AM »

true true although i never heard beginning to the end live

SolitaryHeartache · « **Reply #22 on:** May 03, 2008, 11:09:27 AM »

Quote from: PhiLiz on April 23, 2008, 01:09:01 PM

I think their heaviest album is 'Greatest Lovesongs Vol. 666'... and it is actually very simple to explain why.

'Venus Doom' is a pretty heavy rock album. It has very strong and powerful (Black Sabbath-influenced...) riffs, a frenetic drum work and the songs in general are much more guitar-oriented than the rest of the bands material which gives it a more dirty and kind of "heavy" mood to the album, a little distinct of their trademark Gothic Rock sound.

'Greatest Lovesongs Vol. 666' it's not that dirty and guitar driven. It's much more atmospheric, keyboard based, "melodic" if you will. Overall, it's much more Gothic than "rockish". But there's a twist here... Their first album is much more Metal-related than 'Venus Doom'.
It has the materialization of the band's heavier influences (Type O Negative has to be mentioned here) in an album and everything is much more connected with Metal than 'Venus Doom'.
It's true that it's a more melodic album than 'Venus Doom', but riffs as heavy as the ones in 'Our Diabolikal Rapture' (for example) cannot be found in HIM's latest effort...

Both are heavy albums... but 'Venus Doom' is clearly a Rock album, being 'Greatest Lovesongs Vol. 666' a work with a bigger affiliation with Metal (although it's not quite a Metal album), making it, in my opinion, the heavier album.

This pretty much covers everything I was going to say.

Love Metal is a rockier album but as someone else said it is more anthemic, more melodic than VD or GLSV.666.

Venus Doom has a more polished sound and production values than Greatest Love Songs, which takes away the rough edge that is heard on the first album.

Venus Doom is a great return to the heavier sound for HIM, I didn't think the album was going to be as heavy and organic as it is, I really hope the band stay with this sound or similar for the next album, but that has never happened so I don't expect it.

My Razorblade Kiss · « **Reply #23 on:** May 03, 2008, 12:25:44 PM »

yea i get what your saying idk i just think its one of their best and a heavier sound for HIM as you said

YoursweetSixsixsix · « **Reply #24 on:** May 04, 2008, 02:25:01 PM »

I think you can't really compare the GLS and VD. The GLS is Mix of Goth and Metal. The VD is as the Name says more Doom mixed with Rock.
But personaly I think GLS is heavier, and i absolutely love the atmosphere and the melodic sound of the album.