Author Topic: What Dark Light might have been? (Read 3540 times)

Daedalus · « **on:** October 05, 2007, 07:02:47 PM »

I was reading through an old issue of Metal Hammer from August 2005 and came across something interesting. They had a small write up about Dark Light and gave a track listing that looks nothing like what we got.

Vampire Heart
Dark Light
Behind The Crimson Door
Face of God
Bound To Be Wrong
Killing Loneliness
Under The Rose
Forever Haunted
Wings of a Butterfly
Night in Despair
Drunk on Shadows

Night in Despair and Forever Haunted sound like way cooler titles than "Play Dead" and "The Cage". I wonder if demos exist for these songs, or which songs they were renamed to? Does anyone know of any other information about this? I wonder what connection any of these titles had to the original title for Dark Light (the album), Politics of the Heart?

Vpr616 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2007, 02:06:39 AM »

For me Night In Despair sounds like other title of In The Nightside of Eden.
Forever Haunted would be good for Play Dead, and Bound to Be Wrong is propably Cage or In Our Blood.

I remember reading somewhere, that before DL release, on some secret party Ville played three new songs on acoustic guitar - Under The Rose, *one title I forgot

* and Have No Fear. I wonder, what it was?

province · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2007, 07:28:59 AM »

I always thought those song titles sounded bad and rather cliche. They remind(ed) me of something someone trying to sound like HIM would come up with... So I for one was glad about them not making it onto the final track listing.

Quote from: Vpr616 on October 06, 2007, 02:06:39 AM

Ville played three new songs on acoustic guitar - Under The Rose, *one title I forgot * and Have No Fear.

The one you forgot was The Face Of God, I believe.

Spiritual_takeover · « **Reply #3 on:** October 06, 2007, 12:59:21 PM »

I remember that initial tracklist. I too wondered where did those tracks go. Maybe we'll find out some day. Anyway, does anyone have "Have No Fear"? Or at least the lyrics, I'm very curious about that song.

saciboy · « **Reply #4 on:** October 06, 2007, 02:27:20 PM »

vampire Heart
Dark Light
Killing Loneliness
wing of a Butterfly

my very I like Metal Hammer and Dark Light be listing

MMH · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2007, 05:21:28 PM »

Remember the old Metal Hammer sampler with The Sacrament on it under a different name? It's really weird how titles change so much from only a matter of weeks before a release.

drdiabetezx66x · « **Reply #6 on:** October 06, 2007, 09:56:26 PM »

most of him's song titles are cliche for themselves to begin with.

roger valo · « **Reply #7 on:** October 07, 2007, 01:22:11 AM »

Quote from: Vpr616 on October 06, 2007, 02:06:39 AM

For me Night In Despair sounds like other title of In The Nightside of Eden.
Forever Haunted would be good for Play Dead, and Bound to Be Wrong is propably Cage or In Our Blood.

I remember reading somewhere, that before DL release, on some secret party Ville played three new songs on acoustic guitar - Under The Rose, *one title I forgot * and Have No Fear. I wonder, what it was?

someone have this 3 songs???

616heartagram · « **Reply #8 on:** October 07, 2007, 02:06:51 AM »

i heard that the original Title for darklight was "in the garden of eden" but ville didn't want to go through the whole "join me" thing that people got mixed up again

Tumppa · « **Reply #9 on:** October 13, 2007, 05:26:46 AM »

If I remember right, Ville said in Ruisrock 2005-interview Dark Light's original title was In The Nightside of Eden, but they changed it to Dark Light because In The Nightside of Eden is hard to say in Japan.

But well, those demo names sounds cool.

six6sixways2love · « **Reply #10 on:** December 14, 2007, 01:37:50 AM »

also valo has that thing with opposites. and maybe in the nightside of eden didn't fully capture that idea

Grim · « **Reply #11 on:** December 14, 2007, 01:04:34 PM »

Might be just a fuckup on the magazine

Tauriainen · « **Reply #12 on:** December 14, 2007, 04:44:36 PM »

Quote from: roger valo on October 07, 2007, 01:22:11 AM

Quote from: Vpr616 on October 06, 2007, 02:06:39 AM
For me Night In Despair sounds like other title of In The Nightside of Eden.
Forever Haunted would be good for Play Dead, and Bound to Be Wrong is propably Cage or In Our Blood.

I remember reading somewhere, that before DL release, on some secret party Ville played three new songs on acoustic guitar - Under The Rose, *one title I forgot * and Have No Fear. I wonder, what it was?

someone have this 3 songs???

They were only played in a Private Party for a friend of his.
They were the early versions of those songs.

As for the tracklisting, it is true.
The EPK that was floating around (on the W.O.A.B. and Making Of..) had a small Studio of the band and it did show that tracklist.

To prove that album was a potential fuck up ....
even Pornstars promote it to this day.

I would post more, but after that she removes the shirt, so she isn't promoting after that.

Carru · « **Reply #13 on:** December 14, 2007, 08:00:17 PM »

Quote from: MMH on October 06, 2007, 05:21:28 PM

Remember the old Metal Hammer sampler with The Sacrament on it under a different name? It's really weird how titles change so much from only a matter of weeks before a release.

that'd be a kerrang sampler, i have it....The Heart Of Darkness was the name

Carru · « **Reply #14 on:** December 14, 2007, 08:02:23 PM »

Quote from: roger valo on October 07, 2007, 01:22:11 AM

Quote from: Vpr616 on October 06, 2007, 02:06:39 AM
For me Night In Despair sounds like other title of In The Nightside of Eden.
Forever Haunted would be good for Play Dead, and Bound to Be Wrong is propably Cage or In Our Blood.

I remember reading somewhere, that before DL release, on some secret party Ville played three new songs on acoustic guitar - Under The Rose, *one title I forgot * and Have No Fear. I wonder, what it was?
someone have this 3 songs???

In Portsmouth, England lindes amp fucked up, so during the show he played on his acoustic and played Under the rose. and after the show he played his acoustic to my 'crazy' ex, i even have the pics to prove it......... i'm not crazy

Carru · « **Reply #15 on:** December 14, 2007, 08:05:52 PM »

and all those songs that are 'demo' names... nope, they were just names of 'works in Progress' nothing to do with any partys or anything...
even daedalus said before...
just working titles that were even published in magazines

playdead616 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 13, 2008, 05:11:23 PM »

Carru, if u have that kerreng sampler with heart of darkness then tell me one thing that has been bothering me. is the the normal version or an edit or a demo or what is it??

Daedalus · « **Reply #17 on:** January 13, 2008, 07:11:33 PM »

It's identical to the album version. You know, thinking about it, perhaps "Have No Fear" was a working title for a song that ended up becoming "Kiss of Dawn"? Ville tends to keep lyrics for years and reuse them or bring them out when he needs them. Perhaps the part of KOD with "death frees from the fear of dying it's true, have no fear" was originally written with some of the Dark Light stuff.

smedlock · « **Reply #18 on:** January 14, 2008, 04:31:42 AM »

that acually sounds like you could be right...rememebr the fella who KoD was about died around the time of DL... but yes that sounds very likely.

muschy · « **Reply #19 on:** January 14, 2008, 03:28:01 PM »

kiss of dawn actually sounds very much like a dark night song... especially the chorus

The Bloody Glove · « **Reply #20 on:** January 14, 2008, 03:44:58 PM »

im itchy for Uneasy Listening VOL. 3

playdead616 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2008, 03:32:15 AM »

actually now that i think of it kiss of dawns chorus does sound like dark light material.

loveslastbreath · « **Reply #22 on:** January 19, 2008, 08:50:13 PM »

Quote from: The Phantom Gate on January 14, 2008, 03:44:58 PM

im itchy for Uneasy Listening VOL. 3

if there is an uneasy listening vol 3 it wont have any dark light or venus doom demos on it. uneasy listening was released by bmg not sire. and since sire released dark light and venus doom. bmg wouldnt have the rights to the demos for dark light or venus doom. so yah. $:-\$

Danny · « **Reply #23 on:** January 22, 2008, 06:15:19 PM »

Quote from: Tumppa on October 13, 2007, 05:26:46 AM

If I remember right, Ville said in Ruisrock 2005-interview Dark Light's original title was In The Nightside of Eden, but they changed it to Dark Light because In The Nightside of Eden is hard to say in Japan.

But well, those demo names sounds cool.

Haha,that was not the reason AT ALL!
The reason for not naming the album that is because they didnt want to go thru that satanic crap again,because the title could be misunderstood. Here`s one interview where he talks about it:

Author Topic: What Dark Light might have been? (Read 3540 times)

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