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HIM => News & Rumors => Topic started by: Daedalus on March 05, 2017, 03:00:27 PM

Title: HIM is OVER
Post by: Daedalus on March 05, 2017, 03:00:27 PM: I never wanted to have to make this topic, but I think we all knew it was inevitable in recent years...

"HIM ANNOUNCE FAREWELL TOUR
LOVE METAL LEGENDS HIT THE ROAD FOR THE LAST TIME THIS YEAR
Following a long radio silence, Finnish rock giants HIM have announced a farewell tour, closing the final chapter on their 26 year career.
"After quarter of a century of Love and Metal intertwined we sincerely feel HIM has run its unnatural course and adieus must be said in order to make way for sights, scents and sounds yet unexplored. We completed the pattern, solved the puzzle and turned the key. Thank you." Says frontman Ville Valo
Formed in 1991 by vocalist Ville Valo, guitarist Mikko “Linde” Lindström and bassist Mikko "Migé" Paananen, HIM truly stand out as one of the rock world’s most unique acts. Beautifully blending metal, goth and hard rock with deep, thoughtful and moving lyrics, HIM offered the world a new take on the metal genre, which became known as Love Metal (also the title of their fourth album).
Over the course of eight studio albums, HIM captured the hearts and minds of fans across the globe, drawn by their irresistible and inimitable style. Under the banner of their Heartagram logo – a potent symbol encapsulating the juxtaposition of the light and dark, the fierce and forlorn, and the evil and love found in their music - HIM filled venues and crashed charts the world over, collecting numerous awards, gracing countless magazine covers and becoming the first Finnish act to achieve Gold status in the USA.
Now, four years after the release of their last studio album ‘Tears On Tape’, HIM are saying farewell, taking in 14 countries across 35 shows for their final goodbye.
"At the end of 2017 we will be released into the wild.” Says bassist Mige. “Before this event of great transformation we would love to offer you one last chance to experience our live performances in His Majesty's service. It shall not be a weepfest but a celebration of love metal in all its lovecraftian glory! See you there!"
Ville Valo (voc)
Mige (bass)
Linde (gtr)
Burton (kb)
Kosmo (dr)
Catch HIM for the last time at one of the following shows:
JUNE
WED 14 SPAIN BARCELONA RAZZMATAZZ
THU 15 SPAIN MADRID LA RIVIERA
FRI 16 SPAIN SANTANDER SALA ESCENRIO
SAT 17 PORTUGAL PORTO HARD CLUB
JULY
SAT 01 FINLAND HELSINKI TUSKA FESTIVAL
THU 13 FINLAND TUURI MILJOONAROCK
NOVEMBER
FRI 24 RUSSIA ST PETERSBURG DK LENSOVETA
SAT 25 RUSSIA ST PETERSBURG DK LENSOVETA
SUN 26 RUSSIA MOSCOW CLUB STADIUM LIVE
TUE 28 POLAND WARSAW STODOLA
WED 29 GERMANY HAMBURG DOCKS
DECEMBER
FRI 01 GERMANY BERLIN COLUMBIAHALLE
SAT 02 CZECH REP. PRAGUE FORUM KARLIN
MON 04 GERMANY LEIPZIG HAUS AUENSEE
TUE 05 GERMANY MUNCHEN TONHALLE
WED 06 SWITZ. ZURICH X-TRA
THU 07 ITALY MILAN ALCATRAZ
FRI 08 GERMANY KOLN PALLADIUM
SAT 09 LUX. ESCH-SUR-ALZETTE ROCKHAL
MON 11 HOLLAND AMSTERDAM PARADISO
TUE 12 HOLLAND TILBURG 013
THU 14 SCOTLAND GLASGOW BARROWLAND
FRI 15 ENGLAND NOTTINGHAM ROCK CITY
SAT 16 ENGLAND MANCHESTER ACADEMY
SUN 17 ENGLAND LONDON ROUNDHOUSE
Tickets go on general sale 9am Wednesday 8th March.
U.S. and FINNISH DATES TO BE ANNOUNCED"
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Post by: Heisenberg on March 05, 2017, 03:10:30 PM: FUCK
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Post by: Daedalus on March 05, 2017, 03:13:04 PM: I'm pretty well gutted at the moment.
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Post by: vampireheart616 on March 05, 2017, 03:16:36 PM: :'(
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Post by: DarkSecret666 on March 05, 2017, 03:19:57 PM: :'(
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Post by: Alex on March 05, 2017, 03:21:20 PM: I need time to realize this.... but
its not over for sure.... new projects to follow soon and I bet in the next 5-7 years they will resurrect HIM again.
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Post by: six6sixways2love on March 05, 2017, 03:24:03 PM: In moments of absolute sadness, I knew I could come back here to vent. I'm sad right now, but I know the weight of this still hasn't fully hit me. I had a feeling something like this was on the horizon. The band has always been really shitty at social media and news. But I was hoping the silence was them just collecting themselves, finding a good groove with Kosmo, and then going back into the studio. I thought they were going to have at least 1 more album in them. Total balls
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Post by: Harker on March 05, 2017, 03:37:03 PM: Fuck...
Still surprised by this official break-up/farewell. Somehow, I expected a silence fade out. Like the last years; no records, some side-projects, no social media, nor touring. But this last year I had good hope: new festival dates, new drummer, Ville appeared again the last months.
It is also sad they don?t mention a new album.
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Post by: Thanatos on March 05, 2017, 03:39:14 PM: not april fools. im bad to express my feelings but its really sad, i remember many things through's the bands career
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Post by: Daedalus on March 05, 2017, 03:40:38 PM: I guess, on the upside, we might get some unreleased stuff out of them?
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Post by: DarkSecret666 on March 05, 2017, 03:43:29 PM: I would've wanted even one more album. Honestly I had a feeling that HIM would announce this during the next years. But thank god, they'll still do the remaining gigs with even more dates announced.
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Post by: Zhivago on March 05, 2017, 03:55:24 PM: Damn. I was kind of expecting that to be the big news. :'(
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Post by: dan24591 on March 05, 2017, 04:05:45 PM: I have zero shame in admitting that I've teared. They've been 1 of my 2 favourite bands since 2001ish. I'm gutted, although I've had a slight feeling the band was edging toward this decision for a while, but I still told myself otherwise.

Now I'm focused on getting some UK tickets. I'll shed blood if I need to.
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Post by: BABL on March 05, 2017, 04:22:04 PM: Its a sad day today, was hoping for a new album.

At least its a mutual break up and not some massive fallout, I reckon we will get some unreleased music, and in a few years they will have a reunion tour.
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Post by: 616 on March 05, 2017, 04:27:01 PM: that feeling when "BIG ANNOUNCEMENT" is on the Dan Carter, after SO FUCKING LONG time of SILENCE, NOTHING, i finally was like "yeah they are announcing the new album, finally" ......filled with hope, excitement when i saw this, my heart completely broke. I cried like a 6 years old girl. Well one of the worst days of my life, for sure. Now the priority is to get the tickets for the Prague show and no matter what the setlist will be i will fucking cry on the gig like a girl again. My throat is still blocked, tears coming to my eyes and the real wave of sadness and hopelessness is yet to come.
my life will never be the same

and yep here it comes, i started to cry again while writing this.
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Post by: DarkSecret666 on March 05, 2017, 04:33:46 PM: I'm pretty sure that they will be playing "One Last Time" live. I know this isn't the perfect time to be joking, but this is what happened after they signed to "END" records...
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Post by: heartagram_616 on March 05, 2017, 04:34:09 PM: this news sucks i was also wanting a new album but im sure this is for the best im hoping to make at least one uk show
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Post by: six6sixways2love on March 05, 2017, 04:39:08 PM: soooooo, does anyone have any tips on how to get Helldone tickets? Never tried, don't even know what outlet to buy them through, but seriously seriously contemplating flying over for the final shows.
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Post by: AcousticFuneral on March 05, 2017, 04:51:41 PM: So sad but knew it would come I really hope we get something new out of them whether a new album/song previously unreleased material or whatever. Time to get tickets for as many shows as I can
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Post by: PTEraser on March 05, 2017, 05:30:35 PM: Really sad about this news. The only good thing out of this is the gig in Porto after 13 years, and hopefully some new unreleased stuff, either from the band or from some folks around the world!
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Post by: Jay on March 05, 2017, 06:05:51 PM: I just got a DM from Lenny. I feared that someone had died.

I'm happy to know that they're alive and well but super sad that the bad itself is dead. I'm not sure what to think at the moment. I hope they find a groove on this tour and have a change of heart, but I somehow doubt that.

They're a huge part of my life. I can still listen to certain songs and be taken back to the time I first heard it and what was going on at that time. I can also remember the feelings I had while listening.

Fuck. I'm bummed man. I'll definitely be seeing you guys at the show!
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Post by: avr on March 05, 2017, 06:40:42 PM: What horrible news to end the weekend with.

It's something I never thought would happen but it's just all off a sudden happened and that's it. Ville at the Emma awards was so cheery and said about new album. Upsetting to think no more interviews, no albums, tours.. this is what keeps us going haha. Other bands bore me to death, guess I'll have to take up a new hobby. Honestly thought it would be an announcement for new album but holy hell...
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Post by: kellylugosisdead on March 05, 2017, 07:02:52 PM: What a knife to the fucking gut, man. No American stops scheduled, either means I'll never get to see them live. This is so hard to wrap my head around. I never expected this, not this year when they've been teasing at a new album for so long. Ughhhhhh fuck this
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Post by: vampireheart616 on March 05, 2017, 07:16:55 PM: Quote from: kellylugosisdead on March 05, 2017, 07:02:52 PM
What a knife to the fucking gut, man. No American stops scheduled, either means I'll never get to see them live. This is so hard to wrap my head around. I never expected this, not this year when they've been teasing at a new album for so long. Ughhhhhh fuck this
Us dates are coming soon it says on the very bottom
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Post by: kellylugosisdead on March 05, 2017, 07:28:18 PM: Quote from: vampireheart616 on March 05, 2017, 07:16:55 PM
Quote from: kellylugosisdead on March 05, 2017, 07:02:52 PM
What a knife to the fucking gut, man. No American stops scheduled, either means I'll never get to see them live. This is so hard to wrap my head around. I never expected this, not this year when they've been teasing at a new album for so long. Ughhhhhh fuck this
Us dates are coming soon it says on the very bottom

Ahhhhh thank you I clearly didn't see that! Still gutted, but hopefully I'll get to see them for the first and last time. Pleeeeease let there be a TX stop.
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Post by: Paratisii on March 05, 2017, 08:01:18 PM: I had a feeling something was coming. This really fucking sucks.
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Post by: Ziggy18 on March 05, 2017, 08:56:59 PM: Im in shock right now. I feel empty and like I want to cry. I hope there is atleast another US Tour. Wow. 2 tats, 9x ive seen them and got numerous interactions with them. I dont beleive this means Forever.
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Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on March 05, 2017, 09:10:08 PM: Well......

It's going to be really strange if they play any brand new songs from the album they were supposedly working on and those will be the versions we'll have to listen to from here on out. It'll just be weird to hear a brand new HIM song and know that there won't be an album with the studio version of it to look forward to later on. I've speculated for awhile now that they were going to call it quits. Not like the writing wasn't already on the wall, but I hope someday we get some details on what actually happened. I guess they just didn't wanna go through the whole album routine once again, especially without Gas, because that would have them on the road supporting it for longer than they would've liked. I hate to see them go out like this, though. Isn't it supposed to be better to burn out than to fade away? Guess they kinda did something in the middle of that. Hasn't quite hit me fully yet that they're going to be gone probably for forever since it's felt that way as of late anyhow, but I'm sure it will once the tour starts.
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Post by: vampireheart616 on March 05, 2017, 10:59:41 PM: We can only hope they end up being like KISS and claim to be done but still keep playing just without making their music worse in the process, and I'm wondering if any of this is due to ville having a new girlfriend I'm happy for but I'm wondering if things ended up not working out would HIM return? There are a lot of questions and possibilities to this I still find the cancelation of the Daniel lioneye tour strange too and we've never really gotten anymore info on that or anything
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Post by: Jay on March 06, 2017, 12:26:35 AM: Quote from: kellylugosisdead on March 05, 2017, 07:28:18 PM
Quote from: vampireheart616 on March 05, 2017, 07:16:55 PM
Quote from: kellylugosisdead on March 05, 2017, 07:02:52 PM
What a knife to the fucking gut, man. No American stops scheduled, either means I'll never get to see them live. This is so hard to wrap my head around. I never expected this, not this year when they've been teasing at a new album for so long. Ughhhhhh fuck this
Us dates are coming soon it says on the very bottom

Ahhhhh thank you I clearly didn't see that! Still gutted, but hopefully I'll get to see them for the first and last time. Pleeeeease let there be a TX stop.

I assume a Houston and Dallas show will be set.
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Post by: 616 on March 06, 2017, 01:06:02 AM: maybe the middle life crisis, they dont see to have internal problems within the band, or at least we dont know anything, so maybe they are just currently feeling like they dont have any joy of doing the same shit another years, maybe they dont have anything to challenge in HIM. But hopefully they will re-consider this after few years, when they will miss each other on stage, when they will miss their lifes actually, because HIM is them, their lives, they have put a LOT into this band so maybe they will return after a while, Blink returned and other bands returned as well.
Hopefully i can get Prague tickets on wednesday,.... my camera is ready, batteries ready, sd card ready and now i dont see any reason not to ask a FOH guys to copy me a gig on the usb stick as a souvenir of my last show, maybe it will work
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Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on March 06, 2017, 03:09:33 AM: I hope they shoot at least one more DVD and a box set....
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Post by: Squeezit Wafflenose on March 06, 2017, 03:28:21 AM: Hate to say I saw this coming six months ago... Sad as I am (they are my favourite modern band), I think this may actually be for the best. Tears on Tape was not a great effort, album 9 has been in the works forever and had it been published, it could have been really poor. If they don't feel like doing it any more, it's definitely honest to call it quits.
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Post by: 616 on March 06, 2017, 03:32:41 AM: "At the end of 2017, we will be released into the wild," says Mige. "Before this event of great transformation, we would love to offer you one last chance to experience our live performances in His Majesty's service. It shall not be a weepfest but a celebration of love metal in all its lovecraftian glory! See you there!"

".......HIM has run its unnatural course and adieus must be said in order to make way for sights, scents and sounds yet unexplored," - Ville Valo

THat probably means that Burton, Linde and Mige will continue with Daniel Lioneye. And Ville probably solo artist? Rambo?
OR something COMPLETELY NEW on the horizon? Nech chapter in their musician lives??? together?
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Post by: SolitaryHeartache on March 06, 2017, 04:33:04 AM: This absolutely hurts my soul. This band was my life and I'll miss them dearly. The final tour is a must see.
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Post by: Alex on March 06, 2017, 04:47:33 AM: As I said new projects to follow for sure...i hope.... Gas left the band because he wanted to do different kind of music.... maybe thats happening with Linde and the guys. Honestly I do not see too much perspective in Daniel Lioneye. Vol3 was the best of all three and they barely touring...

I hope also for a LP or just a single with 2-3 new songs for a goodbye or something like that....Setlist for the tour this time can include some forgotten songs.

I truly believe that the band will join again in the next 10 years, but somehow its scares me this farewell tour! There is something big or bad we dont know... hopefully not....
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Post by: SilverLiningBE on March 06, 2017, 08:14:24 AM: Quote from: Alex on March 06, 2017, 04:47:33 AM
There is something big or bad we dont know...

Valo's new girlfriend's pregnant?

Only he could put an end to the band's existence and take a decision that big...
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Post by: Daedalus on March 06, 2017, 10:23:13 AM: I was listening to a random playlist of HIM this morning on my way to work when WLSTD came on. I started to shiver and tear up. It was rough, especially when Ville screamed "So I die..." I nearly lost it. I had to turn my stereo off for the rest of the drive.
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Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on March 06, 2017, 11:27:27 AM: Anyone else wonder if Gas might sit in for a song or two during the band's final show? You gotta figure the last one will be in Helsinki at Tavastia, so if it happens on New Year's they can invite his band to open up for them and Gas can occupy his throne one last time. Just a random thought. I know he lives in the US now, or did the last I knew, but I'd like to see him incorporated in some way with the farewell tour. It just wouldn't be right without it, plus he never got a proper send off. If he would be up to it or not is anyone's guess, though. I'm sure he'll come visit them but I'd love to see him back playing. Hell, have a dual drum setup for the final encore and have Gas and Kosmo both play, then they can all take their final bows together and Gas can toss one last stick into the crowd.
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Post by: DarkSecret666 on March 06, 2017, 11:43:20 AM: Yeah, I was also thinking about Gas playing during the shows. And yes he lives in US, but at least he seems to be in Finland with his projects a lot lately so it's possible that he has moved back to Finland but who knows.
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Post by: 616 on March 06, 2017, 12:43:23 PM: i was hoping for more than Gas at the Tavastia, Juska, Antto, PATKA! it would be really nice and HIS INFERNAL MAJESTY deserves it
the last tour is gonna be like a funeral
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Post by: vampireheart616 on March 06, 2017, 02:18:34 PM: They should also play very album from to back, I know that would cost hundreds if they actually did something like that but if this is really end it would be worth every penny, I'm still trying to deny this is actually happening, can't it just be some type of plan to get sold out shows and everyone back into them? I wish :'(
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Post by: Ziggy18 on March 06, 2017, 11:56:13 PM: Okay im ready to make an attempt to say how i feel about this.

HIM is and will be my favorite band since 13/14 when i first heard right here in my arms. I have been as die hard as i can be through the years and HIM has had a huge impact on my life. I am very extreamly sad to hear this news so suddenly. I have been always using TheSacrament.net since i was in my teens and now 27. I would like to thank all thevactive members and of course Jay who started all of this.

Even though i regret to hear this it did seem obvious with no helldone and such bad pablicity/no news. We were induldged with daniel lioneye 3 but now we hear the words "farewell tour" :( I wonder what happened inside the band like people said or The End being the down fall.
(Starting to tear)
I wonder if Daniel lioneye will roll out and THE Ville Valo will start new band/go solo. I will enjoy whatever sprouts from the greatest only love metal band ever but damn this does straight up suck

Im hoping i will get to see them one last time in states like it says. If not i shook villes hand in 04 and sat with them at a big table at hooters, talked to ville on phone due to gf getting knocked out and being put back stage, drank with DL in 2010 for hours at pernantis in Pgh, saw them in 4 completly diff states 9x total, etc.

I was thinking my first tattoo with Love Metal HIM and heartagram is perfect and sums up all the memories. I had two friends in middle school that made cky type videos that all sparked the fire. And now sadly my last tattoo is the snake/skull on elbow from Tears On Tape. The last of 8 wonderful albums and numerous other untouchable songs.
It was the last with Gas and its a shame he left because he might have been the one to keep things going.

Ill end with i hope they play somewhere in east coast US with maybe meet and greets. My Razorblade Romance shirt is signed by all 4 but Linde but Linde's is sepperate on a Dark Light paper from deluxe tin set. I would have Linde sifn the pink shirt so i can frame it.

I admit the whole old members thing would be cool for them to join on this tour.

Lets hope for the best and think of words like LOVE METAL REUINION 2018 WITH GAS LIPSTICK lol
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Post by: Inferno on March 07, 2017, 01:37:38 AM: Well, a huge part of my childhood just came to a close. I'm not sad or emotional, but maybe it just hasn't set in yet... Words just cannot express it. I've already had to go through many breakups of bands that I discovered through HIM so I can't say that the signs weren't there... I just didn't expect it to happen so soon.
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Post by: 616 on March 07, 2017, 08:45:04 AM: i still cant believe it......

this was few weeks ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoyL9Dx-G8g&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoyL9Dx-G8g&feature=youtu.be)
do you think that he already knew that HIM is about to split up? He said "working on the new music AND THEN the stuff with HIM", ....so that does not mean working on the new music with HIM....... and after that he said that they are going to tour a little and after summer they dont know yet
i understand it that he already knew and they did not have dates for the farewell tour yet, so he was "mysterious" as always. But he is going to do a new music so hopefully some follow up HIM band with the same personel would be fine huh?

Helldone dates should be announced in July
i think they should make a DVD like Hanoi Rocks did from the last gig, seriously. If they wont, it will be very odd

i wonder what really happened.... because excuse like "him has run unnatural course" is obviously just a bullshit, they could change the course and not disband......
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Post by: DarkSecret666 on March 07, 2017, 10:19:33 AM: Ville also did another interview to a Finnish tabloid magazine "Seiska" during Emma Gaala. He was asked: "How long HIM will still go on?" Ville replied: "It's very hard to say. There are at least 3 days on a week when I think it is over. The same thing has been going on for 25 years now, so I cannot promise either one." The short interview was published on February 19th, and I hadn't seen it.

From a think to another... 20th November 2017 marks 20 years from the release of Greatest Lovesongs Vol. 666. I bet they're going to play some goodies from the album this year. The Beginning Of The End is going to be played for sure. A rare picture of Ville holding a GLS gold record was posted on a Finnish news site:
(https://s22.postimg.org/hmtcywocx/a41661d336ac4b1793f5e2abf6ca5ace.jpg)

And BTW did anyone notice that when typing "HIM" to Google, heartagram.com shows up with the title "Dark Light"? It's been there for at least 2 months, but I didn't think about it.
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Post by: Daedalus on March 07, 2017, 11:16:58 AM: Inspired by Ziggy's comments, I feel compelled to put into words how I'm feeling about all of this.

I've been a fan of HIM since 2003, way back when I was a mere 19 years old. I was stumbling my way through college, working full time, and attempting relationships. One day, a buddy and I were on Napster downloading various MP3's (as was the thing to do back then) when he suggested we download something from "that band Bam likes". Throughout high school, we had been fans of the CKY videos and been exposed to HIM through that. We ended up downloading a few songs, including "Funeral of Hearts". I thought it was cool, but only listened to a handful of songs once through and then went home. That night, I began downloading as much HIM music and videos as I could find, and I fell in love.

A short time later I went to the Virgin Megastore (Remember those?) and sought out a HIM album. Any album didn't even matter! All they had was 1 copy of the Universal release of Razorblade Romance (with the parental advisory). I was looking to buy a second copy as a Christmas gift for a friend but the clerk told me they only had the one copy. I decided to take that copy and set it aside for the gift, and I would buy another one online for myself. I soon discovered what import CDs were, and by January of 2004, I had copies all of 4 albums. As fate would have it, I never ended up giving that copy of RR as a gift, and to this day I still have the very first HIM album that I purchased still sealed in the plastic.

HIM became the soundtrack to my twenties. Not a day went by that I didn't listen to them. These songs became my secret treasures that, at the time, relatively few people knew about and I was the gatekeeper(coincidence intended ;)) to share this with friends and family. 2005 rolls around and we finally get word of a new album and a US tour. I joined the street team and was instrumental in the promotion around my area. Due to my participation, I was invited to a Warner Bros recording studio in Dallas to listen to Dark Light a month or so before release with about 15-20 other people. It was a magical evening that I will never forget. Just after the release of Dark Light, HIM came to my town and, once again, due to my participation in the street team I was allowed into a meet and greet after the show. Here I was, 21 years old, I've just seen my favorite band live for the first time and then I got to meet them?! This was absolutely mindblowing and to this day is one of the greatest nights of my life.

I have now seen HIM live 7 times (possibly 8 or 9, I can't quite recall everything from the last decade) and as many of you know, have spent a lot of time and money building a very large collection of HIM memorbillia. I was blessed to be the right age at the right time during their rise to fame in the US. As we know here on the forums, as a new album approached activity grew, and then afterwards declined. We've all been through these cycles together many many times now. It's very sad to me that we will never go through this cycle again. Going back now, for me personally, it seems appropriate that Tears on Tape is the final album.

One thing I should point out is that throughout the entire time that I've known HIM, I have worked the same job. It was a good job for many, many years, but in 2014 it was time for me to move on. I resigned from my position for a new opportunity in an entirely different industry. Coincidence or not, a month after I left my first job, I met the woman who would become my wife. In 2015 we were married and in 2016 our first daughter was born.

All the while, HIM became less of my life. Please don't misunderstand me, I still listen to them all the time, but as anyone who's gotten married and had a child knows, money gets tight and there was no longer and frivolous spending on HIM stuff. My collection, more or less, is as complete as it will ever be. Even if they released a new album, I could not afford to continue my collecting as I had been. It's perhaps fitting, at least for me anyways, that every HIM album release, every tour (except this farewell tour), occured while I was at my first job, in what I now recognize as a different phase of my life. It's a phase that I look back upon fondly, but one that will never be again.

This does not mean that I'm leaving the forums, hell I've still been here since all the changes in my life, and I will continue to be here until Jay pulls the plug. (Or if my Presidential campaign really takes off in a few years). Our community is special, just as our band is special. They may be ending a chapter in the story of HIM, but hopefully, there will be more to go. Thank you for anyone who read through this long spew of a post...I just needed to get these things out myself to help heal my broken heart while I come to grips with the end of HIM.
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Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on March 07, 2017, 11:48:29 AM: Ahhh, Virgin Megastores. I paid $40 for an import copy of Love Metal there. Not even the digipak. I'd gladly do it again.

I'm pretty sure someone else on here already brought this up not too long ago, but considering the circumstances it just makes me think about all of the old members of this forum and others throughout the years that have disappeared. Just makes me wonder what they're up to these days, if they're alright, and if they're still fans. I could go on and on listing different usernames. Most I knew nothing about personally, but you do feel some sort of sense of bonding visiting a forum like this and seeing the same people all the time, even if you don't have any personal interactions. People come and go all the time, but those that used to be so passionate and were around for awhile, I still wonder about sometimes, as weird as that my sound. A nice little moment of reflection I just had lol.

Still hasn't quite hit me yet that it's over, but it'll do so eventually. I got so used to all of this downtime between albums, especially as of late, that it was like it was already over, but always in the back of mind I knew that they were still around despite the silence, so it doesn't really feel all that different yet.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: 616 on March 07, 2017, 01:50:20 PM: i enjoy reading those stories guys, please everyone keep on going. Its great really to share the experience, the feelings and everything.

There are my 5 cents to this..... before you go, take a glass of water, its gonna be a long post and no potato in the end.

I started in 2001. At this point i was heavily into various stuff that dont fit, i listened to Ramones, Slayer, Korn and mostly Blink 182 was my top band at that point. We had a HiFi system and my father connected it with the TV somehow so when i was watching TV i could record the audio on MC cassettes. I was into music since i was like 3... So i was watching Vh1, MTV, VIVA and slovak and czech music channel, hitparades and more on german channels from satelite. I was recording music on my cassettes, songs i liked, maybe i would find some of them in the basement :D i remember that one time i saw Gone with the sin video and it was odd , the music video was odd for me at the time, i liked it. Then i saw Pretending and i didnt realise that its the same group at first, i had those 2 songs recorded on the tapes, listened. I did not have internet or anything, was 11 only (born June 1990 LOL) and i was into skateboarding so i obviously loved THPS and i remember when i got a copy of THPS i dont remember if it was THPS 2 or THPS 3 there was a folder of videos of every skateboarder in the game and there was Bam Margera who had this amazing song in the video - i disdcovered Sigillum Diaboli, i only watched the video for the song, even though my favourite was Rodney Mullen and i didnt like Bam that much, but the song in his video was superb. As the time went i remember being pretty much into what i have recorded on the TV on my cassette - later Sacrament, Wicked Game , RHIMA, at this point i got CDs of Razorblade Romance and Love Metal as a gifts. A friends sister was goth and she was much older and i managed to get from her copies of DSBH and Greatest Lovesongs vol 666. I loved every single song. The real thing was for me when i was skating with old WALKMAN , with duct tape to my jeans somehow and i was listening to a cassette with the mix of Sepultura, HIM, Slayer, Blink, Box Car Racer , just few songs of each. Since i got RR album on Christmas, Resurrection became my most favorite song. Every friend who i borrowed the HIM CDs also loved Resurrection. In 2004 i finally got an internet! baby then it began, not telling that i was so in love with Solitary Man, it was on TV ALL THE TIME, my father brought me Digipak with Semifinal DVD from Brno, Czech rep. I watched the DVD of 6 songs like MILLION of times. But back to the internet thing, this is when i started collecting bootlegs. I used limeware or how it was named, bearshare ! Yeah i downloaded first live videos, live gigs, live songs, live videos from some US 2004 tour, it was amazing. In 2005 i was blessed at the age of 15, puberty full blown, to see them in my country, in Bratislava. It was the first HIM gig, its something like the first sex. Never forget, magical, so anticipated, so awesome. I still wanna get a video copy, but no results :(
And it continued, my collecting of live bootlegs, trading, on various forums, trading sites and stuff. Javi buddy, i love you if you are reading this , i really appriciate everything. And yeah i was visiting this under more nicknames but never got 100 posts and wasnt active much as my english was so poor and so i stopped even logging in. But then later i created this account i am using now. And i was trying to be active and i am active to this day and will be until Jay will close this chapter. I found a lot of buddies, friends , really Great buddies - all of you, you know, i love you all. I wish i never wrote this novel ,but it helps , it definitely helps.

I saw them just 4 times, hopefully to see them last time in Prague, i cant find tickets and i am afraid that it will be sold out quickly. Throughout this entire time, HIM was something like a family member or a wife or something i really took HIM as a part of my everyday life. And yeah i collected LOADS of live stuff, rare stuff, less rare, common stuff, different sources and i still am obsessed with this. It became my hobby and passion. HIM is my life actually and i will miss everything badly.
I wanna thank you everyone for being here, for being active, for sharing your opinions, ideas, your passions, your stuff. I like you, we are on the same boat, we are connected with this unique band and we are going to share the same loss in the end of this year.

I never had a chance to meet the band or never had a chance to hear live my most favorite song ever - Resurrection , i am certain that i wont hear it live in my entire life, its sad yeah but there are more important things.

Hey everyone, no matter what happens, if whatever you wish, here is when you will always catch me, laza616@yahoo.com

This forum is awesome, people here created one great community and i will really miss the "cycles" as buddy Daedalus mentioned. Hunting for leaks before the album is released, it was magical :-D sharing thoughts and opinions on everything , oh boy, i will fucking miss it. I still refuse to believe that this is happening

Guys, one idea - lets share this on every social network you have - for the first rowers mainly - bring some posters , papers with "PLEASE DONT SPLIT UP" and cheer those up in the gig, the band is probably decided and nothing will change it, but here we are, no one wants this to be happening. Lets give the guys proper cheers and support on their gigs, let them feel and see that they have the GREATEST fans in the world, maybe it will soften their hearts and His Infernal Majesty will resurrect in the future.

Linde, Gas, Jukka, Ville, my favourite Mige, Juska, PATKA, Oki, Juha, Antto, Juippi, Burton - i love you, i thank you, you will be forever in my heart. HIM might be over, but His Infernal Majesty, its legacy, music is forever. Thanks for reading and sorry for terribly bad English and terribly long post.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: AcousticFuneral on March 07, 2017, 01:51:47 PM: It still hasn't sunk in for me because I've still got quite a few chances to see them live hopefully. I think it'll set in after the NYE show that I'll never get to see them again and that will be a sad thought. Also it's a shame I was too young really to join this community when HIM were 'big' but I have enjoyed being here the last few years and I will share my recordings of the final tour with you once again. Tickets are booked for Manchester UK but I hope to make it to all of the Finnish shows and maybe a few other countries.
I like so many of you I'm sure have wonderful memories of this band. They have been a constant part of my life for the last 12 years, shit that's actually half of my life. I can't say for sure but I honestly believe HIM will be my favourite band for the rest of my life. I feel so pleased that I discovered this band. I have been so lucky to be able to see them live and I hope all of you have had this pleasure too.
If you had told me I would be this sad about a band breaking up I would have never believed you. I mean after all they're just a band there's loads of bands, but I don't think there are any like HIM atleast not for me. I still remember the feeling of the first time I saw them live, it was so surreal looking up, being in the same room as the people you had listened to,appreciated loved for so many years. I have so many precious memories and I hope there are still a few more to be made yet.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Inferno on March 07, 2017, 05:16:56 PM: The guys are simply too young and talented to not move forward in their careers even if it's not under the guise of HIM. I'm confident that we will still see their creations for many years to come and I'm looking forward to everything they do from Daniel Lioneye to Rambo Rimbaud.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: vampireheart616 on March 07, 2017, 05:31:35 PM: It'd be nice for an interview or more details about what exactly is going on, constantly seeing the same thing over and over again on every single site just copied off another one >:(
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Jay on March 07, 2017, 07:31:39 PM: Those damn Finns have also shaped my 20's as well. And yes we all grew "out" of the band for various life reasons, but I think every one of us can hear that certain song and be transported right back to that moment in time.

I can't wait to hear new music from each of their various projects. I can be satisfied as long as Ville continues to write music. I enjoy his voice and song writing.

Maybe it was something while trying to write new HIM music they all realized "it" wasn't there anymore and agreed to move on. I'll support them in whatever they do.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Jay on March 07, 2017, 07:32:15 PM: Quote from: vampireheart616 on March 07, 2017, 05:31:35 PM
It'd be nice for an interview or more details about what exactly is going on, constantly seeing the same thing over and over again on every single site just copied off another one >:(

I agree. But we all know how they are with this kind of thing. We probably won't know.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: vampireheart616 on March 07, 2017, 08:56:12 PM: Quote from: Jay on March 07, 2017, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: vampireheart616 on March 07, 2017, 05:31:35 PM
It'd be nice for an interview or more details about what exactly is going on, constantly seeing the same thing over and over again on every single site just copied off another one >:(

I agree. But we all know how they are with this kind of thing. We probably won't know.
Yeah, and a pretty crap way of making the announcement too, they could have announced the tour and later on did the farewell part at the last show or something
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Jay on March 07, 2017, 10:14:38 PM: Yeah or maybe at Helldone they could have been like "2017 will be it" but in reality this is their style.

I would have settled for another "Gatekeeper" bullshit game to find out it's all over.

Btw; has anyone checked on Bam? Hopefully he's ok lol.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on March 07, 2017, 10:37:34 PM: Hey, that Gatekeeper bullshit was fun, especially looking back on it. I still remember solving the "Heaven ablaze in our eyes" key to unlock the Wings Of A Butterfly video and just sitting there staring at the screen like whoa did I really just do that? Lol.

On a somewhat related note, I have fond memories of the "Venus Doom leak race" where a bunch of us were all battling it out on MSN to be the first to get it and post it from that dude who had it from MySpace.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: 616 on March 08, 2017, 04:22:58 AM: 93,17 EUR f or two non-VIP regular tickets, i want at least 2 hours long gig
and apparently i am going to completely different tour, fairwell tour :-D fail
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: avr on March 08, 2017, 04:40:23 AM: The venue is Prague looks beautiful.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Alex on March 08, 2017, 05:02:01 AM: Quote from: SilverLiningBE on March 06, 2017, 08:14:24 AM
Quote from: Alex on March 06, 2017, 04:47:33 AM
There is something big or bad we dont know...

Valo's new girlfriend's pregnant?

Only he could put an end to the band's existence and take a decision that big...

I think the new album was in progress on some phase. Ideas, melodies, text, rehearsals or even some super early demos of a songs... The guys said a few months ago cancelling Helldone because there were no new songs ready to perform and it was well known that Daniel Lioneye had touring to the middle of december. But the message stated that there is defnt. something new waiting to be born.....(fck i cannot find the message... i remember it was on the official fb).
So what has happen during the winter? What has happen the last few months pushing them to take this hard decision now? What was the "big" problem to finish the new album and release it this year and the following tour to be announced as the last one! Im believe in the guys in that if there was a possibility to release one more album they would do it. But they DONT... why?

On the other side of the coin may be the decision has been taken a year ago or less and they were looking the best way and moment to do it...also first tourdates for the year were announced october/november. Did they were planing to promote do the new album or subsequently changed to be farewell tour??? arghhh

Mige said "transformation" - it doesnt sound like the end, more like they will continue in different form.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: avr on March 08, 2017, 05:08:26 AM: I think these tour dates were for the album release but something happened and it's turned in to the farewell tour instead. We'll probably never know but at least we all have these shows to look forward too. Just booked Manchester & Glasgow.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: 616 on March 08, 2017, 05:17:11 AM: well, i dont know but now there are few things right in place, right time to - make a final DVD from the farewell tour, make a documentary, release what is left to be released on some "Uneasy listening vol 3 compilation - unreleased stuff , unfinished old and new ideas.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: BABL on March 08, 2017, 06:19:51 AM: Got My Tickets for the 17th of December, Will be sporting my "Your pretty face is going to hell" jacket one last time before i retire it.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Daedalus on March 08, 2017, 10:43:24 AM: I would imagine that the unfinished work on album 9 is going to end up becoming whatever Ville does solo. It would be pretty neat if he did a solo album with guest musicians and such. Hey, this could turn out like the Beatles, where we get *mostly* solid work from the individuals. I also imagine that between the record labels and the band, we will get further releases of things. Perhaps more demos, unreleased remixes and such. Or, if nothing else, endless "Best of" compilations with the same songs over and over.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Jay on March 08, 2017, 02:32:36 PM: @Daedalus the "best of" compilation has also been known as the "live show" for 10 years now lol.

But. I'll still go see them! I've only skipped one show in my area and that was to see TOOL....
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Daedalus on March 08, 2017, 03:31:03 PM: I like the cut of your jib.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Jay on March 08, 2017, 09:24:23 PM: Quote from: Daedalus on March 08, 2017, 03:31:03 PM
I like the cut of your jib.

Thank you, thank you....I'm here all night.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Steel on March 09, 2017, 04:03:42 AM: I thought this was a bad joke when I came across it about 10 minutes ago. Very sad news. Him has been a important influence and part of my life for at least over the last 15 years. True there will likely be side projects and maybe a reunion at some future point but it will never be the same again. Thanks for all the joy HIM has brought us all. Hopefully they put out 1 last album together before the solo and new projects begin. I'm very fortunate to have gotten the opportunity to get backstage 2x to meet the band and all I can say are good things about them all. Truly amazing and talented guys.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: vampireheart616 on March 11, 2017, 06:00:52 PM: if this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoyL9Dx-G8g) translation it true what exactly happened in a month?
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Alex on March 11, 2017, 06:27:22 PM: Quote from: vampireheart616 on March 11, 2017, 06:00:52 PM
if this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoyL9Dx-G8g) translation it true what exactly happened in a month?

1:11 - "And after that to make new music and then the stuff with HIM"
1:21 - "In the summer we have festivals and after that I don't really know yet"

I think its all clear :D
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: vampireheart616 on March 11, 2017, 06:34:43 PM: Quote from: Alex on March 11, 2017, 06:27:22 PM
Quote from: vampireheart616 on March 11, 2017, 06:00:52 PM
if this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoyL9Dx-G8g) translation it true what exactly happened in a month?

1:11 - "And after that to make new music and then the stuff with HIM"
1:21 - "In the summer we have festivals and after that I don't really know yet"

I think its all clear :D
The new music isn't referring to HIM then? 😣
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: SilverLiningBE on March 11, 2017, 06:38:11 PM: Has someone translated the article on this page: Eventim Blog (http://blog.eventim.de/2017/03/him-sagen-tschuess-farewell-tour-ende-2017/)?

It says that there will be one new album. But there is no source and they could have written that info based on the lies Valo said earlier this year...
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: 616 on March 12, 2017, 03:20:38 AM: Quote from: vampireheart616 on March 11, 2017, 06:34:43 PM
Quote from: Alex on March 11, 2017, 06:27:22 PM
Quote from: vampireheart616 on March 11, 2017, 06:00:52 PM
if this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoyL9Dx-G8g) translation it true what exactly happened in a month?

1:11 - "And after that to make new music and then the stuff with HIM"
1:21 - "In the summer we have festivals and after that I don't really know yet"

I think its all clear :D
The new music isn't referring to HIM then? ????
exactly . .... A. make new music , then B. stuff with HIM (means rehearsing for final shows and farewell tour)
"i dont really know yet" ....dates were not on the table for the farewell tour

so he is going to make new music, i bet there will be an album of Ville in 2 years or something new, new project . I hope guys just closed the HIM chapter and they are creating the new one together. Anyway, i am still waiting for some Daniel Lioneye dates as they cancelled it and still nothing - that makes Vol. 3 the worst promoted and toured album in the history of mankind :-D yet the album is a masterpiece
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: avr on March 12, 2017, 05:41:50 AM: There was a post on Instagram posted shortly after 17.02.2017 - Tampere, Finland Iskelm? Gaala 2017
When Ville Valo & Christel Karhu where together. It said, fans of HIM will be ready for music and the new music is special. Trying to find the post but having no luck.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Kaysa on March 12, 2017, 09:44:05 AM: Quote from: SilverLiningBE on March 11, 2017, 06:38:11 PM
Has someone translated the article on this page: Eventim Blog ([url]http://blog.eventim.de/2017/03/him-sagen-tschuess-farewell-tour-ende-2017/[/url])?

Heyyyy, I hadn't seen that even though I actually bought by ticket from eventim xD
It's their official blog and they're publishing news about the tours they're selling tickets for. Well, kind of obviously.

Anyway, what the article is saying is that HIM are working on an album. Which seems to be something the author has ~heard somewhere without naming a source. Since the article also says that the band hasn't talked about it yet they don't seem to be referring to older interviews where they did talk about a new album. Idk.

I did a full translation of the article. Sorry for shitty English, I'm ill.

HIM say Good-Bye: Farewell Tour in late 2017
03.07.17 / Ben Foitzig

(http://blog.eventim.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/him-tickets-2017.jpg)

Twenty years ago Finnish dark rockers HIM began their unrivaled success story in the international metal scene with their debut album "Greatest Lovesongs Vol. 666". 2017, the band around singer Ville Valo now says good-bye: One more album and then it's over! At least the fans will be able to give the band a proper good-bye: The advance sale for the HIM Farewell Tour has already started at eventim.de!

"After quarter of a century of Love and Metal intertwined we sincerely feel HIM has run its unnatural course and adieus must be said in order to make way for sights, scents and sounds yet unexplored," says Ville Valo in the band's official statement that put many fans around the world in a state of mourning. "We completed the pattern, solved the puzzle and turned the key. Thank you."

HIM - inventors of Love Metal

HIM, like no other band, created their own sound - because of Ville Valo' magical timbre if nothing else. His voice is utterly unique in the rock music cosmos: steeled with thumbtracks and rinsed with tar and Whiskey, the charismatic Finn's exceptional voice sends pleasant shivers down the listeners' spines again and again. But besides Valo's voice it's the gloomy sound as well that makes HIM a twenty year old exception in rock music: metal, gothic and hard rock melt together with soulful lyrics to form a unique sound cosmos that over the years earned itself the name "Love Metal" - analogous to the fourth HIM album of the same name.

Four years after their eighth studio album "Tears On Tape", which reached #2 of the German charts, HIM now want to say good-bye to their fans with one last album on which they're working at the moment, according to reports - the band themselves haven't mentioned a farewell album yet.

"In Joy And Sorrow"...

A ferewell tour however, they have mentioned. "At the end of 2017 we will be released into the wild,” says HIM bassist Mige. “Before this event of great transformation we would love to offer you one last chance to experience our live performances in His Majesty's service. It shall not be a weepfest but a celebration of love metal in all its lovecraftian glory! See you there!" "There" meaning Hamburg (11.29.), Berlin (12.1.), Leipzig (12.4.), Munich (12.5.) and Cologne (12.8.) for German fans.

Tickets for HIMs final "celebration of love metal in all its lovecraftian glory" available at eventim.de!

EDIT 25th May 2017: The article was apparently changed at some point as it now says HIM will retire from the stage instead of mentioning 'one more album' in the first paragraph, and the paragraph on a new album above the video was deleted.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Daedalus on March 12, 2017, 12:31:04 PM: I would be fucking thrilled to have one more album. I just don't believe it happening. Unless it's almost done, when would they have time to work on it if there touring all year?

Now, thinking about this, if they did have a final album in the works, this could be a big power play. If they didn't have a record deal in place yet, they could be using the announcement of the end and the sales of tour tickets to get a more favorable record deal for the last album...something to think about.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: 616 on March 12, 2017, 12:44:16 PM: first of all - Thank you @Kaysa !

we can ask someone at Finnvox, but doubt that they will leak some info
i still dont believe that will have a new album.....
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: vampireheart616 on March 12, 2017, 01:09:27 PM: Quote from: Daedalus on March 12, 2017, 12:31:04 PM
I would be fucking thrilled to have one more album. I just don't believe it happening. Unless it's almost done, when would they have time to work on it if there touring all year?

Now, thinking about this, if they did have a final album in the works, this could be a big power play. If they didn't have a record deal in place yet, they could be using the announcement of the end and the sales of tour tickets to get a more favorable record deal for the last album...something to think about.

I've been thinking a lot of possibilities about that they could have it finished already since they've had the past how many years off and since they have been gone for so long announcing a farewell tour would be the biggest way to get all of the tour dates sold out the possibilities are endless with the little to no info we have, and they did cancel the no sleep til halloween tour to start working on Venus doom and when they said they were canceling helldone because they wanted to have new music for us and the Daniel lioneye tour cancellation (I wonder if the drummers arm is actually confirmed to be broken I haven't seen anything) they could have been working on something just like disturbed and avenged sevenfold have done this year, or it can be the complete opposite but they know how much this kills us waiting and having no info so it could go either way but the wait to find out the truth is honestly killing me the same as waiting for US tour dates
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: dan24591 on March 13, 2017, 10:42:35 AM: Something to take into account is that I would say a large establishment like Eventim are a credible source. Why would THEY feel the need to spark a rumor about some random band? Plus, by the looks of things, this has came from Ville himself, so I would say there is every reason to expect one last album.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Alex on March 13, 2017, 05:00:07 PM: I;ve mentioned that Im suspecting something less an album, LP or a single and reading this makes more hungry. But it doesnt sound too logical.
The touring start in june, so for 10 months (helldone), the guys has to record it, promote it , release it..... but in the same time they will already touring and somewhere in the middle of all this they will split??? ;D

Hmmm at least if they havent said yet they will touring next year also...hmm did they said that the band ends in the end of this year?
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on March 13, 2017, 09:56:38 PM: Quote from: Alex on March 13, 2017, 05:00:07 PM
Hmmm at least if they havent said yet they will touring next year also...hmm did they said that the band ends in the end of this year?

Mige said that the band will be released into the wild at the end of 2017.

I think there's a small chance a new song randomly pops up between now and before the US dates start on the farewell tour as a promotional parting gift, but not an entire new album by the end of the year. Not as if this band is one for doing things the conventional way, but I feel like they would've mentioned it along with the farewell tour announcement if there were plans to still release one. I guess they could still do so when the US dates come out, but I don't think a new album is coming.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: 616 on March 14, 2017, 03:40:09 AM: i dont know, they said what they wanted to say, they announced that they are disbanding HIM in the end of 2017. Even Kosmo had it in the status that HIM 1991-2017. Mige mentioned the end of 2017. I really doubt that there will be anything in 2018 at all. US tour will be in September/October i guess or November. I think they will add some South American dates too.
If there was an album, there is really no reason to make it secret and not mentioning anything. That source is just a blog without any source - could be based on misunderstanding old interviews and misinterpreting Ville...... dont forget that
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on March 14, 2017, 06:20:39 AM: Am I the only one who hates that Ville can't just be straight up honest ? I mean 616 mentions misinterpritations but come on, the way he sometimes answers questions and then outright changed his answer a week later ? It's no wonder rumors fly around
Quote from: 616 on March 14, 2017, 03:40:09 AM
i dont know, they said what they wanted to say, they announced that they are disbanding HIM in the end of 2017. Even Kosmo had it in the status that HIM 1991-2017. Mige mentioned the end of 2017. I really doubt that there will be anything in 2018 at all. US tour will be in September/October i guess or November. I think they will add some South American dates too.
If there was an album, there is really no reason to make it secret and not mentioning anything. That source is just a blog without any source - could be based on misunderstanding old interviews and misinterpreting Ville...... dont forget that
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: avr on March 14, 2017, 07:31:13 AM: HIM aren't a band for communications which is fine by me, they are all private chaps and I like the that about them. Some won't lose interest but I can see why people would be annoyed about not hearing from them for ages or not straight up answers from Ville. Last sunday we thought a new album was coming and now with have this turdy news but that's life. Bands are all about social media these days and I think people expect 24/7 these days as people are so accessible in 2017 - facebook, instagram, snapchat which is great but it loses the surprise from the bands as we know whats coming. Maybe HIM just can't be bothered now, maybe we'll get some confirmation with the tour coming up, interviews etc. But in the mean time we'll just sit and wait lol. Maybe after this tour they realize what they are giving up, personally I don't think they'll be pulling in as big of crowds with their solo projects.
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: Kaysa on March 14, 2017, 07:39:49 AM: Quote from: 616 on March 14, 2017, 03:40:09 AM
If there was an album, there is really no reason to make it secret and not mentioning anything. That source is just a blog without any source - could be based on misunderstanding old interviews and misinterpreting Ville...... dont forget that

I was gonna say "Exactly that, there's no source and I'm not sure who writes these blog posts, so I wouldn't trust their information on stuff beyond the ticket selling". But we have actual news with a credible source now :/

Someone from the German HIM Street Team asked the management about a new album and got this answer:

(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17309314_10208594582006498_681629710816185814_n.jpg?oh=99f754418f33b73dbf417e616e146c9d&oe=5965EA79)
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: 616 on March 14, 2017, 09:21:23 AM: @Kaysa thank you for information !!!

so regarding the new album - i would say that the case is closed
now no one will read that and everyone will trust the rumor on that blog just because they wish it was truth so they will believe it, without any logic any official confirmation. When it comes to the reality that there is no album happening everyone will bitch about that there was supposed to be a final album and it was on the internet so it must be true :-D

but yeah Ville and the company are pretty quiet, i bet that they just want it to be end as soon as possible, they need to make this obligatory tour. Who knows what actually happened in the band that they suddenly decided to end up HIM legacy....
Title: Re: HIM is OVER
Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on March 14, 2017, 12:30:41 PM: Quote from: 616 on March 14, 2017, 09:21:23 AM
@Kaysa thank you for information !!
so regarding the new album - i would say that the case is closed
now no one will read that and everyone will trust the rumor on that blog just because they wish it was truth so they will believe it, without any logic any official confirmation. When it comes to the reality that there is no album happening everyone will bitch about that there was supposed to be a final album and it was on the internet so it must be true :-D

but yeah Ville and the company are pretty quiet, i bet that they just want it to be end as soon as possible, they need to make this obligatory tour. Who knows what actually happened in the band that they suddenly decided to end up HIM legacy....
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I would seriously be happy if they opened up the love metal archives and let us pick what we wanted I think I'd prefer that over seeing a farewell tour that would only make me sad I mean yeah I love seeing them live but these guys are geniuses at work with their music I don't understand why they have to be so damn humble and think they deserve the short end of the stick every single time it comes to releasing their material
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Post by: kellylugosisdead on March 14, 2017, 02:52:04 PM: My biggest reason for believing there will be a 9th album is that they love symbolism so much, and we need the 9th circle of Hell to have it be complete! Wishful thinking, though, I'm sure. Thanks so much for translating that article, Kaysa. You're the best!
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Post by: vampireheart616 on March 16, 2017, 01:22:08 PM: I just got a response from teamheartagram that said "If there are any news, all will be posted in good time."
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Post by: 616 on March 16, 2017, 04:33:19 PM: the more i read Synnin Viemaa , the more i am convinced that this is really the end
finally got a solid english version of that book and its so sad to read when knowing that this amazing band is over
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Post by: avr on March 16, 2017, 05:54:19 PM: The end indeed :'( still doesn't feel really.
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Post by: Daedalus on March 16, 2017, 10:06:03 PM: I'm still heartbroken about this, but on the bright side, if Ville needs money, he'll release shit out of the archives. There's always money in the banana stand.
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Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on March 16, 2017, 10:45:23 PM: Quote from: Daedalus on March 16, 2017, 10:06:03 PM
I'm still heartbroken about this, but on the bright side, if Ville needs money, he'll release shit out of the archives. There's always money in the banana stand.

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
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Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on April 04, 2017, 09:56:38 PM: His Infernal Majesty
2000-2010
:'(
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Post by: avr on April 23, 2017, 05:38:07 PM: How's everyone feeling now regarding the news since we've had a while to digest their descion?
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Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on April 23, 2017, 09:50:14 PM: I feel like the tour is already over when it hasn't even started yet.
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Post by: 616 on April 24, 2017, 07:45:46 AM: I accepted the fact that there will be no new HIM music and gigs. HIM´s spirit, music and legacy will be there forever. So i feel like nothing changed so drastically. They have not been making new music since 2013 - its been 4 years since the ToT was released. And when i turn back and look at the past .... Dark Light - 2005, Venus Doom - 2007, Screamworks - 2010, Tears On Tape - 2013. Now its 2017. Their pauses - 2006 1/2 year, 2007 - 1/2 year nearly except for April 2007 gigs at Give it a Name festival, 2008 - 1/2 year, 2009, 2010 - 1/2 year, 2011, 2012, 2015 - 1/2 year, 2016, 2017 - 1/2 year as it looks now. They were not so active in those 10 - 11 years, were they? I mean, their pause will just go forever after this Farewell tour, but what it will change? Not much, they grew up. Ville is fucking 40 years old. I mean, i feel so old already when thinking that they are in their 40s. I see them closing the His Infernal Majesty chapter as the beginning of something different. Maybe the difference will be that they will enjoy their time and families and maybe Ville will start his own family. I am really glad that they did not lose their face. They could be there for the money, it would be terrible. Its obvious that they were not making music because of the money and fame. These guys are awesome and they will always be.

i am so glad that i was not born just now or too early in mid 1900... I was born right on time to have HIM, that is a win for me. I cant be mad.
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Post by: Peter Forge on April 24, 2017, 12:12:54 PM: ticket was avaible on Obscure last week
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Post by: AndreRibeiroPT on April 24, 2017, 03:35:47 PM: I just feel disappointed in the way that, after the news, we didn´t get anything more from the guys, not even an interview explaining things a bit more, I just don´t find it an normal thing to do after a band breaks up, but they´re HIM, so...
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Post by: MissEmmaB on April 30, 2017, 03:15:19 PM: I'm still trying to get my head around this news! Unbelievable! Still refuse to believe that they are ending. So gutted.... :'(
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Post by: avr on April 30, 2017, 05:01:09 PM: Wonder when US and Finland shows will be announced? Really don't know what to expect from the tour in June.
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Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on April 30, 2017, 09:18:35 PM: I wonder if all this not unusual downtime between the announcement of the tour and the release of the rest of the dates will hurt ticket sales. I've been wondering what's taking them so long too. Either the decision to call it quits was more recent than we think and they're still in the process of organizing everything, and with it being last minute they're having trouble getting everything set up correctly, or they saw the success of the shows that have already been on sale so they're expecting that for the US and looking to book bigger venues instead of what they originally intended to. If that's the case, I wonder if that's a good idea with all this time in between for people to calm down about the news or just simply forget about it.

Still feel somewhat disrespected as a fan that after all this time it comes to a culmination with just a few cryptic sentences. I feel like we deserve better than that. Show loyalty, receive loyalty. Maybe we'll get a better explanation in time, but it was just kinda like "Hey, we're done. Come see on us tour.” When Gas left he explained things in a way that made you understand and left no doubts. Maybe Ville wants to save all of that weepy stuff until after the final show, but come on now. We're all used to waiting and scratching our heads by now, I just don't feel the same respect and gratitude back from the band that we've shown them all these years throughout the ups and downs and numerous silent periods. But in the end it's their band and they can run it however they see fit. /endrantalmost

I also wonder how Gas feels about the whole thing. Not that I'm placing any blame on him whatsoever, it's not like the guy was looking to get a career threatening injury, but I think it goes without saying that it definitely sped up the inevitable. It gave the guys time to just do their own things and live their own lives without the grind of being in HIM, which must've been extremely nice for them on one hand, but I'm sure they also all sat around and wondered about their own musical mortality, if they were to wake up one day with an affliction that stopped them from continuing their passion and their way of living. I think that's why the side projects started taking more of a precedence over HIM and eventually the split. Gotta do what you want to do now before it's too late. But I wonder, had Gas never sustained that injury, how would things be different now? Maybe they wouldn't be.
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Post by: avr on May 01, 2017, 07:17:27 AM: I wish they were really pushing out content in this final year. A celebration of HIM not just this tour and then goodbye at the end of the year. Updating the website with band rehearsals for the tour (the website is crap), new merch, venus doom vinyl, maybe announcing a tour documentary or DVD. I wonder what the back drop for the tour will be.
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Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on May 03, 2017, 09:46:42 AM: What rehearsals? 8) I kid.

I really don't have high hopes for this tour, though. I'm sure the band will sound perfectly fine and professional as usual, and we'll get a couple of songs out of the norm on the setlist, but it's been obvious (at least to me) that for some time now (pretty much ever since they left Sire) that their hearts just haven't been into it anymore and they've been ready to call it a day and go their separate ways for a decent amount of time now. I just hope they can find that passion for HIM they once had and put on some truly great performances. I'm not just talking about the setlist, I'm talking about looking at them and being able to tell they're enjoying themselves instead of just going through the motions that are second nature to them by now. I wouldn't go as far as to say that they've been phoning it in the past few years especially, but I don't think that would be out of line to say either. Age is certainly a bitch and it hasn't done anyone in the band any favors, but age has nothing to do with drive and passion. My complaining about the setlist over the years has always been because I wasn't seeing a band that was putting in the effort to put on a good show anymore and enjoying themselves while doing it, rather than being upset because they weren't playing what I wanted them to play. But it happens with all bands so it's not like it's anything unusual. It's just sad to see it happen to your favorite band.
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Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on May 03, 2017, 05:43:16 PM: not to sound like a dick but I feel like Ville has so much say over the rest of the band members and that's what slowed down the momentum [excluding Gas's injuries]

could be totally wrong though
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Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on May 03, 2017, 05:47:48 PM: on top of that, these five guys need to be a little more spontaneous with what they play.....tour after tour, they never come out and play an encore with a song theyve never played....hell these guys can easily learn to play a new cover song mid tour, and even if it isnt rehearsed for months in advance, im sure they could still pull it off...but as i mentioned before....I feel like Ville has too much say into where the band goes
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Post by: avr on May 10, 2017, 05:46:18 PM: 5 weeks today the tour kicks off!!!
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Post by: kellylugosisdead on May 10, 2017, 05:47:50 PM: Quote from: avr on May 10, 2017, 05:46:18 PM
5 weeks today the tour kicks off!!!
And still no US dates! >:(
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Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on May 11, 2017, 12:34:53 AM: What if they're renegotiating? Maybe they're working their asses off in the studio?
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Post by: avr on May 11, 2017, 05:32:19 AM: I heard July is when US / Helldone shows will be announced but who knows? I doubt they'll be in the studio. But keep the dream alive lol :'(
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Post by: 616 on May 11, 2017, 07:00:25 AM: Maybe the entire Firewell tour will get cancelled...

working their asses off in the studio? maybe for their solo projects, not for HIM. HIM is over, done, closed chapter.
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Post by: Kaysa on May 11, 2017, 07:14:42 AM: You know, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they called the whole thing off tbh
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Post by: avr on May 11, 2017, 07:25:26 AM: God, don't say that... spent so much money >:(
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Post by: 616 on May 11, 2017, 07:40:31 AM: i dont know, at this point, everything is possible. Everything came out of blue, suddently, everyone was expecting the new album and they called it a day. Now everyone is waiting for US tour dates and getting ready for the Farewell tour, i would not be surprised if anything happened.... i mean i dont even took the fucking shit piece of paper when i was buying the tickets, so if the tour or Prague gig was cancelled i would not get the money back.... and everything is so strange lately, no info at all, absolutely the band is not giving a single shit , quiet 4000
if they cancelled the farewell tour, it would not be surprise for me

i was expecting that they will announce US tour dates soon , in march, its a middle of May, no info yet. Its odd. They only have that US and Helldone dates will be announced. And on the FB page they said that Helldone will be announced in July. No word about US dates to be announced in July too....
maybe they are booking larger venues due to a higher demand for the tickets or maybe they are just taking time you know :D to keep us nervous and hooked

now its time to get Venus Doom to be finally released on the fucking Vinyl !
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Post by: avr on May 11, 2017, 08:46:35 AM: I wouldn't surprise me either. Everything you said is 100% right.
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Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on May 11, 2017, 06:13:17 PM: it's hard not to be bitter about the whole thing

I don't know weather to be angry or concerned
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Post by: 616 on May 12, 2017, 01:51:01 AM: We knew that it will happen one day. I am not mad just disappointed because the band only have Dan P Carter one statement, a sentence. And it was it. Nothing more, so HIM like :-D since then they are quiet, actually i really think that we deserve the best out of them on the farewell tour. They said that lets celebrate HIS INFERNAL MAJESTY, so i hope they will put the last effort into it, and they will have at least 120 minutes long time in the gigs, no support needed, just 100% performance, good setlist and good attitude and mood. And of course we want Tavastia last gig to be recorded or live streamed, dont we?
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Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on May 12, 2017, 02:51:47 AM: Maybe get a box set? Love Metal archives vol 2?
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Post by: avr on May 13, 2017, 08:53:04 AM: Ville did say on the Digital versatile Doom DVD 'we'll go down like the band from titanic, rocking out!' The tour will go a head, Kosmo posted rehearsal clip on his Instagram preparing for the tour.
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Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on May 14, 2017, 07:09:11 PM: It's illogical they want to have a USA tour but they're booked until December and they wanna be done by the end of the year. I suspect the only way would be to have a really small US tour.
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Post by: 616 on May 15, 2017, 03:05:56 AM: Quote from: SIRJARVIS01 on May 14, 2017, 07:09:11 PM
It's illogical they want to have a USA tour but they're booked until December and they wanna be done by the end of the year. I suspect the only way would be to have a really small US tour.
what? they have few gigs in November, december is almost full (+ Helldone) .... and few in June, with 2 dates in July..... and now lets count....half of the July, August, September, October, more than half of the November.... these are absolutely gig free months, pretty nice window to make a huge US tour .... + South American dates too , Australia maybe
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Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on May 19, 2017, 03:49:13 AM: there are a few gig free months but I doubt that booking a venue for each gig will be easy...normally, they have the venue booked months ahead of time. it's seems super scattered
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Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on May 19, 2017, 08:24:10 AM: That's more than likely what the hold up is, trying to book a tour on such short notice. Just imagine trying to get everything lined up last minute. Venues, transportation, etc. It's gotta be a total nightmare, and let's be honest they don't exactly have the best in the business doings these things for them. If the tour comes to fruition it's going to be interesting to see when and where they play since you have to figure the venues they would normally play at are already booked. We might see them playing a show at Joe's Bar & Grill or something like that lol.
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Post by: 616 on May 19, 2017, 09:56:30 AM: Quote from: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on May 19, 2017, 08:24:10 AM
We might see them playing a show at Joe's Bar & Grill or something like that lol.
well, imagine that easy going "family" atmosphere there, so close to the band, intimate.... eating grilled steaks, drinking beer and watching HIM playing few meters from us. This is my idea of heaven.
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Post by: avr on May 19, 2017, 04:46:29 PM: Anyone think I'd get away filming the Spain shows with a go pro?
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Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on May 20, 2017, 03:21:21 AM: Quote from: 616 on May 19, 2017, 09:56:30 AM
Quote from: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on May 19, 2017, 08:24:10 AM
We might see them playing a show at Joe's Bar & Grill or something like that lol.
well, imagine that easy going "family" atmosphere there, so close to the band, intimate.... eating grilled steaks, drinking beer and watching HIM playing few meters from us. This is my idea of heaven.

I seriuosly doubt that the band will be content doing that....
Quote from: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on May 19, 2017, 08:24:10 AM
That's more than likely what the hold up is, trying to book a tour on such short notice. Just imagine trying to get everything lined up last minute. Venues, transportation, etc. It's gotta be a total nightmare, and let's be honest they don't exactly have the best in the business doings these things for them. If the tour comes to fruition it's going to be interesting to see when and where they play since you have to figure the venues they would normally play at are already booked. We might see them playing a show at Joe's Bar & Grill or something like that lol.

what do you mean by they dont have the best in the business? are they known for crappy management?
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Post by: PTEraser on May 22, 2017, 05:42:05 AM: Quote from: avr on May 19, 2017, 04:46:29 PM
Anyone think I'd get away filming the Spain shows with a go pro?

It's always great to have a recording. Personally i feel that the audio is way more important than video on this matters. If you can, get yourself a nice recorder (Zoom H4n) or similar and try to record it that way. You can always bring a go pro along. But if the audio isn't good (and the go pro audio sucks!) it won't be nice to watch.
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Post by: Kaysa on July 11, 2017, 07:20:47 AM: Radio Rock interviewed Ville about his plans for the future. Vampire Heart69 kindly translated it : )

00:00
L: We have this theory. You have some iskelmä (Finnish schlager/pop music) album already in your back pocket. Juha Tapio (pop singer) trembles, Ville Valo is coming! How long ahead you've been planning, what's coming next?

00:12
V: Iskelmä is good, I've been of course thinking about it too, I was always open or how would I say... I've been yapping about how much I like that sort of music before but... first have to finish this thing with HIM, to end it with style.

It still takes a lot of energy and time, even in those days when we don't have gigs, there's the most hassle. The unloading stuff in rehearsal place, thinking where all the drum boxes are going...

00:44
Next year I'll start pondering. I have music, which I have written, I thought it would be possibly music for HIM but not this time...
(he seems pretty sad here tbh :()
UNLESS I save them for reunion and do Finnish covers meanwhile (jokes)

00:55
nah... As a musician, I think it's important to create music which is really good and touching to yourself, you get that feeling of pride and want to show it to everyone.
But what kind of? I don't know yet by myself. That's what makes it interesting. I know that I love music and I want to create it if I'm able to, oh babbling for nothing... uh something heavy! I want it to be hard rock, I don't know if I'll get a band or do everything solo, I don't know in what language, I doubt it would be Swedish (joking), Kent is good, or was. (laughs)

01:38
L: You've been probably thinking about what have happened and when it's all over, will it come that empty feeling?

V: Almost all my mornings are empty. At this age, I'm getting calls for eternity/death (joking)

L: Depressed middle aged man's complaining

V: Shhh!!

V: I don't know. It's big part of life, but have to remember, I have done music before and after HIM, uh after HIM?! (laughs) um before and in between, same like other guys, Linde and others.
It doesn't change, it's just as a group if we're not doing things together... well we haven't been spending our free time together in years, so it wouldn't affect, only thing is we're probably all broke soon. (joking)

Original Video (http://www.radiorock.fi/#!/post/596378b0d377390400f2d37a)
Translation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHUTwFnn4yQ&lc=z12yfdaj2z3sx1yyo04celeb5qjnghhqkyg0k)
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Post by: 616 on July 12, 2017, 02:13:25 AM: @Kaysa thank you for this!
i love his sense of humor, seriously i was reading it with a big smile on my face, he has some good points
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Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on July 12, 2017, 01:16:57 PM: I never really thought of how big a pain in the ass it could be to load and unload all the equipment from the studio to the tour bus time and time again not to mention paying the studio fees which must cost a fortune I wonder how much their budget is to record the average album Tears On Tape was financed by them so it might have been a pretty penny he does have a lot of very good points though the man is a brilliant musician everybody has their own opinions from album to album I thought Tears On Tape was genius it was just really really short I think the two best songs on there are I will be the end of you and Into the Night those two songs could have easily been on any other album but that's why I like them so much because it's solid him I have to say that it's really going to be weird not seeing these guys together
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Post by: avr on March 05, 2018, 05:50:05 AM: One year today /

I was happily playing the PlayStation waiting for the announcement on a new album/tour then we got the upsetting news that it's all over :'( It still haunts me to this day.
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Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on March 05, 2018, 06:33:04 AM: I didn't even know back then that there was supposed to be an announcement. As often as I check this board, I'm surprised I missed it. So I wasn't in the camp of hoping for good news and then finding out they were ending the band. I just logged in to see HIM is over on the main page and I wasn't really surprised.
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Post by: AndreRibeiroPT on March 05, 2018, 09:51:53 AM: I do remember it very well, I was with my girlfriend and something popped up on my Facebook about some announcement of the band via radio, I said that it was about a new album or breaking up, I was really sure that it was the split of the band... Unfortunately I was right!
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Post by: Squeezit Wafflenose on March 06, 2018, 04:25:15 AM: The split was long in the making, yet I was shocked and sorry to see it come true.
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Post by: 616 on April 26, 2018, 03:15:13 PM: I just watched this https://youtu.be/8-OQLSv0Hk4 and honestly i had a real big problem holding the tears back, uff

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