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Title: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: vampireheart616 on September 16, 2016, 11:27:27 AM
source: heartagram.com (http://www.heartagram.com)


Dear friends,

as a band, we had agreed right from the start that the New Year's shows would be on if, and only if, we have new songs to present you. There have indeed emerged exciting ideas for songs - all we would need was time to work on them.

You see, originally we had agreed to give our various side projects the precedence this year. In our wildest dreams we thought we could maybe manage both tasks!

First of the side projects is Linde's band Daniel Lioneye, that also has Mige and Burton in its ranks. The band's third album, appropriately titled "Vol. III", is out now and the guys are going to be touring it in the fall. The European leg of the tour will end in mid-December...

...and, you guessed it, that doesn't leave us with the time we would need to finish some new material before New Year's Eve. There would be no point in 'rush-releasing' the new songs, playing them in an embryonic state. We strongly feel they deserve more - and so do indeed you!

Hence, no Helldone shows this year.

(Oh yeah, there are also a couple of...hmm...Mystery Projects in the works. More of them later!)

HIM would like to thank you for your continuing support - see you again in 2017! Helldone will return!!

Ville, Linde, Mige, Burton, Jukka



DANIEL LIONEYE ON TOUR 2016:
01.12. GERMANY HAMBURG HEADCRASH
02.12. GERMANY BERLIN MUSIK & FRIEDEN
04.12. GERMANY COLOGNE MTC
06.12. HOLLAND AMSTERDAM MELKWEG THEATER
08.12. ENGLAND WOLVERHAMPTON SLADE ROOMS
09.12. ENGLAND NOTTINGHAM ROCK CITY
10.12. ENGLAND MANCHESTER SATAN'S HOLLOW
11.12. SCOTLAND GLASGOW CATHOUSE
13.12. ENGLAND BRISTOL THEKLA
14.12. ENGLAND SOUTHAMPTON TALKING HEADS
15.12. ENGLAND LONDON THE BORDERLINE
Title: Re: no helldone this year but a bit of good news
Post by: 666WTLOnVinylFTW on September 16, 2016, 01:49:20 PM
When the hell did they ever say that they would only do New Year's shows if they had new songs to perform? I only remember them saying that they wouldn't perform new songs live anymore before they were officially released because of people bootlegging them. Granted that was back with And Love Said No and it's not something they've stuck to since (I don't think) but it's still the only statement I remember them making about the subject. Or are they only speaking about this year? It's hard to tell.
Title: Re: no helldone this year but a bit of good news
Post by: vampireheart616 on September 16, 2016, 03:58:52 PM
When the hell did they ever say that they would only do New Year's shows if they had new songs to perform? I only remember them saying that they wouldn't perform new songs live anymore before they were officially released because of people bootlegging them. Granted that was back with And Love Said No and it's not something they've stuck to since (I don't think) but it's still the only statement I remember them making about the subject. Or are they only speaking about this year? It's hard to tell.
They played i will be the end if you before tears on tape came out, at least its some news may not please everyone but if it makes these new songs that much better it will be worth it and im curious about these "mystery" projects
Title: Re: no helldone this year but a bit of good news
Post by: 616 on September 16, 2016, 04:07:53 PM
See you in 2017 - Helldone will return

so we will see them in 2017 sometimes or just Helldone 2017 ? so new album 2018? i am lost
Title: Re: no helldone this year but a bit of good news
Post by: vampireheart616 on September 16, 2016, 05:20:42 PM
See you in 2017 - Helldone will return

so we will see them in 2017 sometimes or just Helldone 2017 ? so new album 2018? i am lost
I'm thinking they're just saying since this year theres no helldone it will be back next year and the new album or atleast a few shows with these new songs they're working on will be 2017, i hope this is the case, kind of reminding me of when they all of a sudden cancelled the no sleep til halloween tour to work on venus doom
Title: Re: no helldone this year but a bit of good news
Post by: AcousticFuneral on September 17, 2016, 03:38:14 AM
It'll probably be a case of Helldone 2017 then new album January-April 2018 I'd guess. That's if they don't call it a day.That's a load of shit about only doing Helldone if there's new songs to perform.Helldone 2014 and 2015 shows had practically the same setlist and no songs realeased post 2013 on them.
Title: Re: no helldone this year but a bit of good news
Post by: 616 on September 17, 2016, 09:10:54 AM
this band is :
same setlist tour after tour
playing only hits and singles from the new album

- No Helldone because "we dont have a new songs to play" - yeah  "reason"  (https://media.giphy.com/media/qs6ev2pm8g9dS/giphy.gif)

i am asking myself and actually Ville too:  "Then why not to play some rarely or never played songs instead of BABL, Wicked game and Funeral of Hearts?"

3 years since the last album and they dont have a single new song finished  :D
Laziness level : 666

New album wont be out before February - April 2018
5 years of waiting - damn we deserve at least 2 CD album like RHCP´s - Stadium Arcadium




Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: kellylugosisdead on September 19, 2016, 09:50:12 AM
Okay, let's be optimistic about this news. For one, they're giving us some direct information (i.e. not through an interview or radio show or whatever) regarding the state of the band. There's nothing to indicate that they're breaking up, just that they're wanting to take some time polishing the new music and touring Vol. III. If taking more time and cancelling Helldone means that the next album will be even better, I'm all for it. I'm just glad they're actually kind of letting us know what's going on since that's pretty rare these days.
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: Ziggy18 on November 17, 2016, 09:01:45 PM
If anyones going to this i would pay double to get me a L mens tour shirt.
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: AcousticFuneral on November 18, 2016, 03:09:03 AM
You will probably be able to get one from this site a few days after the tour has ended .
http://store.verkkopaita.com/category/175/daniel-lioneye (http://store.verkkopaita.com/category/175/daniel-lioneye)
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: Vesku_FIN on November 19, 2016, 11:48:08 AM
Andy McCoy (featuring Ville Valo) - X-Mas Song will be released at some point (probably before christmas 2016 :-)).

http://www.soundi.fi/uutiset/nyt-on-tiedossa-kaikkien-aikojen-joulusingle-andy-mccoy-ja-ville-valo-yhdistavat-voimansa/ (http://www.soundi.fi/uutiset/nyt-on-tiedossa-kaikkien-aikojen-joulusingle-andy-mccoy-ja-ville-valo-yhdistavat-voimansa/)

Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: SilverLiningBE on November 22, 2016, 03:20:39 PM
DL tour dates are no longer on the Heartagram web page and the concert in Amsterdam is cancelled.

I have a bad feeling... but I hope it was cancelled only because they haven't sold enough tickets.
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: Eric616 on November 23, 2016, 03:14:17 PM
I'm not surprised. We like these guys, but the general population listens to HIM for mostly Ville Valo.

They'd have been better to have Ville accompany them to play drums on The King Of Rock and Roll songs.
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: 616 on November 24, 2016, 02:40:59 AM
I'm not surprised. We like these guys, but the general population listens to HIM for mostly Ville Valo.

They'd have been better to have Ville accompany them to play drums on The King Of Rock and Roll songs.
I think the problem is with TERRIBLE advertisement of the Daniel Lioneye new album in general, almost no advertisement for the tour either, only heartagram website and facebook, people are used that heartagram is dead since forever and are not visiting it. Yet again The End Records did no job to promote the band ,album and the tour. I wonder why the hell they are signed under this SHITTY label. Useless label as fuck

I dont underestimate Ville, but i dont think he would handle those fast metal songs like the DL drummer (i forgot his name lol)
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: Eric616 on November 24, 2016, 06:15:31 AM
I'm not surprised. We like these guys, but the general population listens to HIM for mostly Ville Valo.

They'd have been better to have Ville accompany them to play drums on The King Of Rock and Roll songs.
I think the problem is with TERRIBLE advertisement of the Daniel Lioneye new album in general, almost no advertisement for the tour either, only heartagram website and facebook, people are used that heartagram is dead since forever and are not visiting it. Yet again The End Records did no job to promote the band ,album and the tour. I wonder why the hell they are signed under this SHITTY label. Useless label as fuck

I dont underestimate Ville, but i dont think he would handle those fast metal songs like the DL drummer (i forgot his name lol)
I agree with you. And Ville would just play a few songs off the first album. Haha
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: 616 on November 25, 2016, 12:58:03 AM
i dont think they performed something from the first album on this VOL 3 tour, did they?
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: avr on November 25, 2016, 05:47:58 AM
Two songs from VOL II and the rest from VOL III - hope they throw some of the 1st album in to the set list.
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: DarkSecret666 on November 27, 2016, 06:32:04 AM
Two songs from VOL II and the rest from VOL III - hope they throw some of the 1st album in to the set list.
What was the other one of those two songs? The Mentat and ? Linde said in a interview that he dropped Kiss Of The Cannibal out becuase the main riff sounds a bit like Aetherside. Does Neolithic Way count?
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: avr on November 27, 2016, 08:58:56 AM
Yeah, The Mentat and Neolithic Way. Heard that there is no tickets available for Berlin now, not sure if it's sold out or cancelled? No updates anywhere :S
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: vampireheart616 on November 29, 2016, 07:05:41 AM
From the Daniel Lioneye facebook
We are sorry to inform you that our drummer Seppo has broken his arm, and is unable to perform on forthcoming european dates. Under these circumstances we are forced to cancel the tour. We sincerily apologize for the inconvenience. Ticket refunds are available at the point of purchase.
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on November 29, 2016, 09:05:02 PM
They MIGHT Be able to use Kosmo as a replacement....I feel like this is gonna cause a bit of a ripple effect on HIMs tour
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: avr on November 30, 2016, 02:14:15 AM
Doubt they'll use Kosmo but there must another reason for this tour to be cancelled. Not enough tickets sold or HIM are back in the studio, it's all guessing games at the moment really :S
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: 616 on November 30, 2016, 03:20:56 AM
well i was looking forward for some recordings from DL tour - especially i was waiting for Dancing With The Dead live video, that makes me sad :(
At least in a week we will have new song from Andy McCoy featuring Ville so that is nice
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: DarkSecret666 on November 30, 2016, 12:05:12 PM
Daniel Lioneye's drum stuff on the faster songs is technically quite hard to play (The Mentat for example) or even memorize in a shorter time. We still don't know what Kosmo is able to play, but only if he uses double bass pedals doesn't mean he can play that stuff. But we'll see. If Kosmo plays those shows, it would be like a metal version of a HIM gig without Ville :P
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: SIRJARVIS01 on November 30, 2016, 08:43:30 PM
If it IS because they're back in studio, Lets hope they'll give us some kind of 3 disc set, I already feel as though they might not do much after they release another album...they're starting to remind me of the 69 eyes, not doing a thing for years at a time!
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: 616 on December 01, 2016, 03:28:00 AM
they are NOT back in the studio, stop those rumors and conspiracies , everyone will get excited and then disappointed because of that
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: avr on December 01, 2016, 05:21:33 AM
You said above the new album will be out 2018? Lol. How do you know they aren't in the studio? They wouldn't update us if they are or aren't anyway? You're making conspiracies and rumours too then. No one is making rumours, everyone wants their favourite band to return do they not? And since we hear nothing from them, fans will hope for the best and talk of their return like we are all doing on this forum, in my eyes there is nothing wrong with that. IF they are in studio, great.. If not, oh well... They could be on a round the world cruise for all we know....  :P
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: 616 on December 01, 2016, 06:35:50 AM
this will get through the multiple hands and everyone will add a little of his own excited hints and ideas and wishes, it will get twisted and from "what if they are in studio (which they are not) will be "they cancelled the DL tour because they went to the studio". Its not happening , its not close to the truth.
I am a fan for 15 years and all that, but i already know this band and stuff. You dont even have to be close to the band , only simple logic could provide a simple answer.

HIM said that they are off this year , no stuff, no helldone, no nothing, no HIM in 2016. They have 2016 for their stuff - Linde, Mige and Burton for Daniel Lioneye. Ville has been doing his own shits and Kosmo has his own stuff to do as well. HIM is completely off in 2016 no matter what. They said HIM will be back in 2017 that means they will work again next year. Follow this -> DL album release - DL tour planned for December. That means Burton, Mige and Linde were all pre-occupied few months ago for December (for DL) - that means there is no need for booking the studio for nothing for December - still following me? 
Seppo broke his arm few days before the tour start - that means he broke his arm. Tour had to be cancelled. Nothing more behind that. HIM is not happening this year.
Ville has been active this year, wait. I hope he already wrote few songs, remade some old unused ideas and if all will go well , they will go to the studio when they will be done with writing and rehearsing process.

Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: vampireheart616 on December 04, 2016, 07:05:30 PM
They did cancel the no sleep til halloween tour to work on Venus Doon there could still be a possibility of this happening
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: 616 on December 05, 2016, 03:46:51 AM
yeah guys i lied to you, they broke Seppo his arm so they have an excuse to cancel the tour, they really cancelled it because they went to studio, they already wrote, rehearsed, demoed all the songs ,now they are recording it, they will mix them afterwards , master them on Christmas eve and there is also a surprise Helldone to promote it and we have it out on the January 2nd
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: Peter Forge on December 10, 2016, 05:59:25 PM
Or whole story about broken arm is piece of crap ;)
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: DSC5LU on December 11, 2016, 01:37:21 PM
Or whole story about broken arm is piece of crap ;)

And what is in it for Seppo? You think he's cool to lose out on a gig and then also lie about being injured, thereby keeping him from other gigs? Get real.
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: 616 on December 11, 2016, 01:50:12 PM
i am telling that for a while now, but when someone wants to believe something because its sweeter, then its hard to just accept the reality, because the fiction is sweeter.....
guys, stop it, it wont help you, just rumoring, gossiping, they are not in the studio, Seppo just broke his arm, they are not doing something secret LOL, where are you living? wake up, HIM was set OFF for the entire 2016 year, that is why there is no Helldone either, they were not practicing for the entire year, they worked on their on stuff, projects, just accept the facts and reality. This was unexpected, how can a drummer perform with the broken arm for fucks sake? 
Title: Re: HIM NEWS, No Helldone 2016, DL tour dates
Post by: Peter Forge on December 14, 2016, 03:13:46 PM
Or whole story about broken arm is piece of crap ;)

And what is in it for Seppo? You think he's cool to lose out on a gig and then also lie about being injured, thereby keeping him from other gigs? Get real.

No I'm just saying that I think all team around Daniel Lioneye project did not so great job and If they go to the tour they will be in a clubs alone