The Sacrament
HIM => News & Rumors => Topic started by: Jay on March 16, 2015, 10:34:59 PM
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I think this is the first announced date...at least according to the FEZEN facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/FEZENFesztival (https://www.facebook.com/FEZENFesztival)
08.01.2015 - FEZEN Festival - Szekesfehervar, Hungary
Credit to @eairthrow for the heads up.
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Cool :) I wonder why they covered an one hole from the H letter in the logo?
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i hope they will announce more dates soon
but if this Hungary festival will be the closest where HIM will perform i would probably go and capture them
anyone else planning to go there?
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I'm expecting more dates like Istanbul and Athens again...
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i hope they will announce more dates soon
but if this Hungary festival will be the closest where HIM will perform i would probably go and capture them
anyone else planning to go there?
I'll be there for sure man!
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it looks like 95% i will be there too ! i am capturing the performance no matter what
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Reeeeallllly want to know what's going on with drums now! Or did I miss something?
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Reeeeallllly want to know what's going on with drums now! Or did I miss something?
You missed out. Big time...yup. :P
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who is going to the Fezen fesztival, Szekesfehervar, Hungary?
its like 99% that i will be there with my fat ass, eairthrow is going too, so who else from the forum? we can meet up
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Hope they come to Poland again. There might actually be a chance for that - Hungary isn't that far away...
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i just bought tickets to Fezen festival in Hungary, just one day ticket for august 1st - HIM day
the funny part is that for this last day of the festival the most tickets were sold, only 300 were left today , the other days were still pretty much a LOT of tickets available, so i guess there will be all HIM fans :D
and the best part is that one day ticket costs me just 16.80 € (euros) :D the cheapest HIM concert , i hope they will be there as nothing was 100% confirmed on the heartagram facebook page :D
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I'm glad they have time to rest. Saw them on Rock Allegiance 13', Fall 14' and LM Archives Winter 14'. I'm dying to know who the drummer will be. Could be a temp or perminant.
I liked the fall tour best, for you live was thee best. Anyone agree?
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Are The Rasmus done? Their drummer would fit HIM. I just want it to be someonw from a finnish band or even an old slightly known drummer. I hope its not just some from a HIM cover band or something.
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I hope its not just some from a HIM cover band or something.
can you really imagine Ville Valo that he would take some random dude from the HIM cover band as a real drummer to replace Gas? i would say that its more likely that Ville will become a pope one day than this.
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Are The Rasmus done? Their drummer would fit HIM. I just want it to be someonw from a finnish band or even an old slightly known drummer. I hope its not just some from a HIM cover band or something.
The Rasmus are still together. The only Finnish drummer I know of that isn't doing anything is Negative's. They haven't done shit since Jonne went solo. They're supposedly still together, but I don't see them doing anything soon. Anyway, I've heard the guy's an ass.
Who was the drummer on the Daniel Lioneye tour?
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DL Vol. II
Bolton - studio drummer
Seppo Tarvainen - tour drummer
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if i was Ville, i would have asked this man:
(http://bringhimtohungary.hu/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/p%C3%A4tk%C3%A4.jpg)
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I still prefer him playing It's All Tears, then Gas! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkfm2ZMhcZU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkfm2ZMhcZU)
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yeah thats amazing example why i would like to see him again where he once was
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one kick, one tom and one snare is really vintage :D
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I's crazy how much that song alone has changed over the years. Initially Gas was playing it just as well as that other dude, but over time it became more simple. Even the way Ville sings the song has changed so much.
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I hope its not just some from a HIM cover band or something.
can you really imagine Ville Valo that he would take some random dude from the HIM cover band as a real drummer to replace Gas? i would say that its more likely that Ville will become a pope one day than this.
This comment makes my day. And puts the dumbest grin on my face. Although I find it slightly more amusing to picture Ville as the Queen. Of anything really. Can't remember when he said that but the images.... lol
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I hope its not just some from a HIM cover band or something.
can you really imagine Ville Valo that he would take some random dude from the HIM cover band as a real drummer to replace Gas? i would say that its more likely that Ville will become a pope one day than this.
This comment makes my day. And puts the dumbest grin on my face. Although I find it slightly more amusing to picture Ville as the Queen. Of anything really. Can't remember when he said that but the images.... lol
Ville as queen :D
Reminds me of the Love Metal crib (http://valo-daily.livejournal.com/4919667.html?thread=94862963) with Ville as Mary :D
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I hope its not just some from a HIM cover band or something.
can you really imagine Ville Valo that he would take some random dude from the HIM cover band as a real drummer to replace Gas? i would say that its more likely that Ville will become a pope one day than this.
This comment makes my day. And puts the dumbest grin on my face. Although I find it slightly more amusing to picture Ville as the Queen. Of anything really. Can't remember when he said that but the images.... lol
Ville as queen :D
Reminds me of the Love Metal crib ([url]http://valo-daily.livejournal.com/4919667.html?thread=94862963[/url]) with Ville as Mary :D
Oh how lovely. Discover something new everyday. :)
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Speaking of drummers, is everyone going to continue to support Gas and his latest project(s) by listening to the Fuckface Unstoppable (I assume) track/tracks he's recording with Bam when they're done? ;) I'm dead serious. Can your wallet make the sacrifice, and can your ears handle the pain? You can't quit on him already! He needs you!
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I'm looking to start my Fuckface Unstoppable collection now! The limited tins, tattoos, vinyl! I don't even have a fucking record player, but does that matter? NO! It's Fuckface Unstoppable!
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Speaking of drummers, is everyone going to continue to support Gas and his latest project(s) by listening to the Fuckface Unstoppable (I assume) track/tracks he's recording with Bam when they're done? ;) I'm dead serious. Can your wallet make the sacrifice, and can your ears handle the pain? You can't quit on him already! He needs you!
no, because Fuckface Unstoppable is not the project of Gas and it is a crap. If Gas becomes the stable drummer for the Fuckface, the only thing i can think of is that "poor Gas, he just threw his entire career into the garbage"
good for Bam, he has the first class drummer now ,... not bad for that lousy dope piece of so-called "band" that has nothing to do with the music or art or anything really.
That makes me believe that Gas was not honest in his final statement when he said that he wanted to move on in his career and he wanted to make is own music as he was always a songwriter. As i could not find one reason why he could not do this while he was in HIM and now after he moved to the US when he joined BAM ( i hope only in some session ) i think the only reason why Gas has left HIM was becasue he was moving into US with his family and it would not be working with HIM as he is on the other side of the earth while the rest of the band is in Helsinki.
Good luck Gas, but this step with participating with Fuckface unstoppable was just like stepping into the shit with the bare foot
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Why so serious?? Lol. Gas is just tracking a song because Bam was close enough, and wanted Gas Lipstick on a track. That is all folks. And im sure Gas had some fun too. Big whoop!
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Yeah, I can't see Gas doing that full time. A one-off song doesn't matter.
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I just couldn't help but find it funny that after pretty much abandoning his Facebook account when he said that he wasn't going to do that (I don't follow him on Twitter or Instagram because it's all just pictures of food) a video pops up on my timeline and I'm like, "Aw, shit. Here's Gas in the studio. Wonder what he's got going on. This is what we've all been waiting to see." Then it turns out it's just him with Bam doing a stupid Faceface Unstoppable song. It also ties in with just the downfall of this band. I mean, did you ever expect ten years ago there would be a time when Gas says fuck it and quits because he wants to write his own shit again, moves all the way out to LA, then the first musical thing he does that we find out about since leaving consists of him playing the drums on one of Bam Margera's Clutch and Turbonegro cover band's songs? It's just fucking weird. I figured all the guys would be in it together until the end. Hell, I figured the end would've already happened by now due to their currently popularity (or lack thereof, I should say), but Gas is out doing his own thing instead, Ville is finally truly working on his solo album, and HIM is on one of the most shitty and unrecognizable record labels of all time for a band of their talent and recent-ish success, and now they can't even sell out a show on a normal tour anymore while bands like Fuckface Unstoppable (just for example) sell out all of their shows. It's all just fucking weird.
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I just couldn't help but find it funny that after pretty much abandoning his Facebook account when he said that he wasn't going to do that (I don't follow him on Twitter or Instagram because it's all just pictures of food) a video pops up on my timeline and I'm like, "Aw, shit. Here's Gas in the studio. Wonder what he's got going on. This is what we've all been waiting to see." Then it turns out it's just him with Bam doing a stupid Faceface Unstoppable song. It also ties in with just the downfall of this band. I mean, did you ever expect ten years ago there would be a time when Gas says fuck it and quits because he wants to write his own shit again, moves all the way out to LA, then the first musical thing he does that we find out about since leaving consists of him playing the drums on one of Bam Margera's Clutch and Turbonegro cover band's songs? It's just fucking weird. I figured all the guys would be in it together until the end. Hell, I figured the end would've already happened by now due to their currently popularity (or lack thereof, I should say), but Gas is out doing his own thing instead, Ville is finally truly working on his solo album, and HIM is on one of the most shitty and unrecognizable record labels of all time for a band of their talent and recent-ish success, and now they can't even sell out a show on a normal tour anymore while bands like Fuckface Unstoppable (just for example) sell out all of their shows. It's all just fucking weird.
So I respect your opinion but for some reason when I read this, this is what I see.....
"Gas isn't wasting his life away on Facebook and likes food. The band broke up. Bands do break up, it happens all the time. Gas is in LA and Bam actually made a smart decision by jumping at the chance to play with Gas before he got caught up in a different project and who is also an old acquaintance and is a nice guy, probably too nice to say no as long as Bam isn't actually being a Fuckface. Ville is making a solo album, the label sucks, and they can't sell out shows." (Well shoot. More Ville and more tickets for me. Heaven forbid. lol)
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I agree with you Cory
but i have to admit that Bam did amazing move with Gas, i just hope that BAM is not using or wont use the heartagram on Fuckface unstoppable shit .....
Gas has left the band because he was moving into LA with his family because of his wife and that would not work with HIM anymore when GAS is on LA , for me this is the only reason, the things that Gas said about writing his own stuff - he could do that 15 years while he was in HIM and he didnt so its a silly excuse for me
I am pretty interested in Ville´s solo album, i just hope it wont be only cover songs.....
and i could not agree more with the label thing, i think that was their worst decision ever + retiring And Love Said No from the concert's setlists
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Some festival dates august 6th_ 9th http://www.kubana.com/en/participants2015_224.htm (http://www.kubana.com/en/participants2015_224.htm)].[/url]
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yeah i hope there will be some stream/broadcast ....
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I think one of the main issues with HIM's recent decline in popularity is a cocktail of issues...
1. Not being with Warner Brothers/Sire Records.
Something that most will not understand is how commercialized the music industry actually is. Example, Warner Brothers/Sire owns about 65% of "shelf space" in Hot Topic. And as ridiculous at it sounds, I think we can all agree that HIM would have many more listeners if there were still products lining the walls of our local malls... Side note, I once (about a year ago) walked into a Hot Topic, and like always, walked right to the counter and asked if they had any HIM merch in-store. The store associate looked at me and said, "I don't know who you're talking about". So I referenced the heartagram, and she said "Oh, Bam Margera's band, yeah I think they broke up a really long time ago".
2. Touring the same cities/repetitive actions
I'm not addressing this because I am continuously disappointed that HIM doesn't come to Buffalo, New York. I'm only saying that they took their time to visit different cities, it would help to grow their fan base. Touring the same cities, year after year, has a lot to do with what sort of relationship the marketing managers have with venue organizers... We can pretty much EXPECT 3 things on every HIM tour... They will Play every fucking House of Blues venue in the midwestern US. They will play Irving Plaza in NYC. And lastly, they will open every show with Buried Alive by Love.
I can sit here all day and find reasons why I seem to be the only HIM fan in Upstate New York, but I gotta get to work.
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another date in Europe:
http://www.rockfm.ro/stiri/5736/HIM-va-concerta-la-Timisoara.html (http://www.rockfm.ro/stiri/5736/HIM-va-concerta-la-Timisoara.html)
Timisoara, Romania, July - 31st.
can someone check if there will be maybe some broadcast?
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It's to early to tell. Just bought the tickets today... but with my experience about broadcasting rock concerts in Romania... I'm almost sure it wont be. And also it's a god damn public park...known for cultural events and stuff. It seems to me a very weird decision to be booked in a venue within a park (and unknown for rock concerts). For example the same day it will be Artmania festival..where Anathema and Crematory are playing. Pretty weird... and that festival in Russia also not a rock exclusive festival. It seems to me like they are out of money or whatnot. But what the hell, I'm more than excited to have the chance to see them in my country..after I've booked Hungary also.
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It's to early to tell. Just bought the tickets today... but with my experience about broadcasting rock concerts in Romania... I'm almost sure it wont be. And also it's a god damn public park...known for cultural events and stuff. It seems to me a very weird decision to be booked in a venue within a park (and unknown for rock concerts). For example the same day it will be Artmania festival..where Anathema and Crematory are playing. Pretty weird... and that festival in Russia also not a rock exclusive festival. It seems to me like they are out of money or whatnot. But what the hell, I'm more than excited to have the chance to see them in my country..after I've booked Hungary also.
well at least some radio/internet broadcast would be nice, that RockFM logo just inspired me :D
but if you will be in Hungary too, meet me there, eairthrow will be there as well, but guys i will be with my GF + recording the gig so i wont drink more than 5 beers
i wonder - who is coming to some of these? we can catch up
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they added two gigs in Poland
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Yeah, I was just going to write this. They're coming to Warsaw on August 5 and to Gdansk the day after.
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And also to Leipzig, Germany on August 4th :P
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Looks like I'll be in Leipzig in August then :D
I really want to go. I'm sure I'll be the only one of my friends though. Mehh.
From the info text for the German concert:
'Bevor sie sich an die Aufnahmen zum neunten Studioalbum macht, gastieren HIM am 4. August im Leipziger Club Täubchenthal.
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Mit neuem Drummer wird die Band noch in diesem Jahr die Arbeiten amkommenden Studioalbum beenden. Doch zuvor kommen sie für ein exklusives Konzert nach Deutschland.'
'Bevor starting to record their ninth studio album, HIM will be playing at Club Täubchenthal in Leipzig on August 4th.
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With a new drummer the band will finish the work on their upcoming studio album until the end of this year. But before that they'll be playing one exclusive concert in Germany.'
This must be the worst translation I ever did, I'm usually not this excited :D
So if we can trust this information... We'll have a new album soon enough!
Will be the first one I'm actually awaiting instead of just buying because it was published ages ago. Safe for the re-issues that is >.>
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Mit neuem Drummer
Alles klar, they've found a new drummer !
Any other band would have shared the information, though...
As this is gonna be their only date in Germany, I'll be there, no matter what ;D
Regarding their new album, probably next spring. Not this year to my opinion.
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and now one date in Bratislava, Slovakia and Prague, Czech Republic!
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so i contacted this company
http://clubstreamer.eu/ (http://clubstreamer.eu/)
they are doing live streams from the music clubs of the concerts here
i asked if they will do HIM stream from Bratislava
this is their answer (trying to do my best with the exact translation):
" We will do everything to be able to stream it and we would gladly do it!!) "
i said that if they managed to do it i would spread the stuff around the HIM world so every fan could see the new drummer
i hope it will be there , i want it really
but in case anyone wanted to ask them for HIM stream so they can see that worldwide demand of that particular HIM stream is high i think they will try to do better, even if the stream costed 10 € or so i think a lot of people from all around the world would catch that
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I'd love a stream of one of the concerts and would gladly pay €10 for it, I'm glad we're getting some HIM shows announced I was certainly thinking it would be likely for Ville to disappear and do his solo album. With us not hearing much about HIM for a while but glad to see they're still about. I can't imagine I'll make it to a HIM show until Helldone 2015 or a UK show but I am tempted by the Rambo Rimbaud show at Qstock.
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I wouldn't pay 10 €. My internet is too unpredictable, so it's nerve wrecking. I can't enjoy livestreams, especially one I paid for. I just want it to hurry up and be over. :-\
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there is no need everyone to 10Euro ;) Just a few, and the others will watched later for free ;)
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omg i only said that 10 € for example :D lol
what i saw they had free streams and no straem would have been for 10 € , maybe Paul McCartney or something much bigger than HIM
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They 'announced' the gigs on their facebook page now. I wonder if they're going to update heartagram.com as well.
No tickets available for Germany anymore. Not on eventim.de that is. I hope I'm still getting mine o.O
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RAMBO RIMBAUD (VILLE VALO)
25.07.2015 - QStock Festival - Oulu, Finland
HIM
31.07.2015 - Roses Park, Timisoara, Romania
01.08.2015 - Fezen Festival, Székesfehérvár, Hungary
02.08.2015 - MMC, Bratislava, Slovakia
03.08.2015 - Roxy, Prague, Czech Republic
04.08.2015 - Club Täubchenthal, Leipzig, Germany
05.08.2015 - Club Stodola, Warsaw, Poland
06.08.2015 - Club B90, Gdansk, Poland
09.08.2015 - Kubana Festival, Kaliningrad, Russia
15.08.2015 - Klubi, Tampere, Finland
16.08.2015 - Tanssisali Lutakko, Jyväskylä, Finland
17.08.2015 - Klubi, Turku, Finland
27.12.2015 - Rock City, Nottingham, UK
Nice amount of dates so far. Just to put them in perspective. Helldone will deffinetly be added too.
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yeah but you forgot these two gigs:
02.08.2015 - MMC, Bratislava, Slovakia
03.08.2015 - Roxy, Prague, Czech Republic
i was hoping that the "+support" could be Rambo Rimbaud as well.....
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omg i only said that 10 € for example :D lol
what i saw they had free streams and no straem would have been for 10 € , maybe Paul McCartney or something much bigger than HIM
Yeah, I know. And I was saying I wouldn't pay to watch it. lol
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yeah, i probably would , i have 100 MB internet connection so it could be good enough
and live streams are good, if you live where they are not performing its always good to see it on your monitor, of course its not a live concert but still better than nothing
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they officialy added and confirmed all the dates on their website heartagram.com
now, who is the fucking drummer ?:D
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Hopefully I'll get tickets for HIM in Nottingham on the 27th of December then maybe it'll be a quick flight to Finland for Helldone at New Years. If the support was Rambo Rimbaud that'll be great.
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i hope there will be some Helldone with HIM this year, do you anything more about it @AcousticFuneral?
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I don't know anything about whether it'll be on or not but if they are willing to play in the UK on the 27th surely they'll do one more show on the 31st at Tavastia, so it'll be 4 years In a row at Helldone and I'll record it again if that's wanted?
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every bootleg is always wanted :D Nottingham as well
but before or after the recent Helldone there were some rumors about some pause or what so i was surprised , i hope it will be as always
Its a great tradition and i think Helldone , Tavastia HIM performance is for all the HIM fans something like Vatican City for the Catholics
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That's the thing after what Ville said at Helldone I wasn't expecting any HIM shows this year. But now they've announced all these shows I can't imagine they'll leave Helldone out.
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And I'm going to HIM in Nottingham :D I see people are already selling the £20 tickets on resale sites for £120(exactly what happened with the Dingwalls show)
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i am expecting an excellent recording as you did at Helldone @AcousticFuneral !
i hope it will be some special gig
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Well I plan to us my old iPhone to record it and use my current one to take pictures as the audio levels changed significantly when I took it out of my pocket to take photos. So this way it'll hopefully be the same throughout. Is anyone else going to watch HIM anywhere this year?
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yeah, i am going to see them in Bratislava and at the Fezen festival in Hungary
i hope the setlist will be as good as it was the last Love Metal archives tour, but not the same. I wish they retired overplayed songs and replaced them with some old songs like "i love you" or "and love said no"
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I'm going to see them in Leipzig, got my ticket today! Since this will be my first proper HIM concert, I'm adequately excited :D
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@Kaysa Well i am sure your excitement is justified and i hope you'll enjoy it.
@616 Yes i hope the setlist will be good again i think once you've seen them a fair few times you're happy if you see maybe 3-4 rarely played songs so was i really happy with the LMA/Helldone 2014 setlist with Heartache,This Fortress of Tears,No Love,Razorblade Kiss. Still really want to hear ALSN too and hopefully Resurrection.
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Mods, feel free to edit my first post here so we can keep up with the dates. I'm behind! I'll see if I can get them updated this afternoon. Same with the tour archive.
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Amid Rising Tension With Russia, Finland Takes the Rare Step of Sending Letters to Every Military Reservist
By Nick Squires, Rome
21 May 2015
Finland has sent letters to nearly a million military reservists, setting out their roles “in the event of war” amid rising tension with neighbouring Russia.
The letters have been dispatched to 900,000 former conscripts in the armed forces,including to Finns living abroad.
The first were sent earlier this month, with the final batch distributed in the last few days.
Finland is not a member of Nato and the country shares an 830-mile border with Russia – the longest of any European nation apart from Ukraine.
In the aftermath of Russia’s annexation of Crimea and the invasion of eastern Ukraine, Finland is uniquely vulnerable to any further aggression.
The letter tells the reservists which regiment or unit to report to in the event of hostilities. “Attached you will find your personal details as well as your role in the event of war,” it reads.
One Finnish reservist, who received the letter, said: “The timing was not random. It is clearly due to a more aggressive stance by the Russians. I’ve been in the reserves for 15 years and this is the first time I’ve received something like this. They send out letters like this very rarely.”
Finland’s army has 16,000 soldiers, but it could expand to 285,000 if reserves were to be called up.
The government has denied that the letters are connected to the crisis in Ukraine or tension with Russia, saying that plans for the mass delivery began two years ago.
“The reservist letter is associated with our intention to develop communications with our reservists, and not the prevailing security situation,” said Mika Kalliomaa, a spokesman for the Finnish Defence Forces.
The aim was to check that the armed forces had the right contact details for all reservists, he added.
But experts said that even if the initiative pre-dated Russia’s seizure of Crimea, the letter was clearly prompted by worries about the Kremlin’s intentions.
“If Russia had headed down the path towards being a liberal democracy, there would not have been the pressure to do this,” said Charly Salonius-Pasternak, a senior research fellow at the Finnish Institute of International Affairs.
Singer-songwriter Ville Valo, from the popular Finnish band HIM, has been quoted as saying, "I'm not currently part of the reserves, and I'm certainly a much weaker and older bloke now than I was in my teens and 20s, but should something happen I'm prepared to drop everything to defend the country that is my home."
The band HIM, who just replaced longtime drummer Mika Karppinen aka Gas Lipstick, has been in the studio in Finland working on their much anticipated ninth studio album for the US label The End Records. Should tensions with Russia boil over, fans just might have to wait longer for that album, and they'll have a new moniker in which to refer to their band's charismatic lead singer with: "solider."
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Where this article about the reservists is coming from?
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photo from the rehearsal place
https://twitter.com/Team_Heartagram/status/607914432186970112/photo/1
but who is the drummer? i dont see anyone behind the drums
i hope they are practicing And Love Said No and Resurrection for the upcoming tour :P
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Am I the only one thinking that behind the drums is Ville´s stage doll that they used on the last tour? :D Maybe I´m seeing things by now...
I think they are mocking us and in a few days something official will come up.
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Well, Gas is back in Helsinki...
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Well, Gas is back in Helsinki...
Maybe he´s back for a few concerts? I don´t believe in that. We´ll have to wait.
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it would be great if Gas returned but i dont see this working as he is living in US and the rest of the guys in Helsinki
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If Gas was returning, I don't think they would keep it a secret, though.
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i dont see any problems if Gas come in august to play a few concerts with the band....but if its true it means that the band is far away from a new drummer and we are not gonna see any new material soon....
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They're having some trouble with the manufacturing plant for drummers, so just like the re-issues got delayed, Gas's departure from the band is delayed too until December 2015. ;)
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how do we know that Gas in back in Helsinki?
i was thinking and could not get this,...
-if Gas really came back to Helsinki to practice with the band for a few last gigs after his departure - what is the point of hiding it and making it a big secret?
i dont see any problems if Gas come in august to play a few concerts with the band....but if its true it means that the band is far away from a new drummer and we are not gonna see any new material soon....
i dont think this would affect the truth that we wont hear any new material soon. Ville said that anyway so with or without the new drummer i think this is going to be the same
plus we know that Ville is a songwriter and he can write the entire new album himself, they can practice later, even without the drummer, they can sort out the final versions with Ville on drums in the rehearsals and once the new drummer is in the band , its not hard for the drummer to practice the new songs
so i dont see that as a problem and if we are meant to hear any new material we will hear it once its decided.
For me the question is, why they chosed the small venues for the tour? Because MMC in Bratislava is small... i think Roxy in Prague is not huge as well. Is that because the last love metal archives tour was not all sold out?
at this point my only wishes are :
And Love Said No or Resurrection in the setlist for the Bratislava or Fezen gigs
Rock Am Ring next year
Daniel Lioneye as the support for the tour :)
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Timosoara in ROmania has a small stage as well.... i've heard that the price of the first 1000 tickets will be 30 euros and then 40 euro... well tickets are still 30 euros...
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how do we know that Gas in back in Helsinki?
i was thinking and could not get this,...
-if Gas really came back to Helsinki to practice with the band for a few last gigs after his departure - what is the point of hiding it and making it a big secret?
He posted it on Twitter. After checking his page to be sure, I see he's in Croatia now. Vacation.
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I really don't understand why so many people think Ville will play drums on a new record. Even he's stated before that he isn't the best of drummers, if anything they'd simply hire a studio musician to record the drum tracks until a new drummer is found. Personally I think that they've already found someone else to helm the throne behind the drum set.
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They've definitely found a replacement. They wouldn't have booked any of the upcoming gigs if they didn't have someone to play the drums, obviously, and it won't be Gas, and it won't be Ville playing the drums and singing at the same time. He couldn't pull that off. Hell, he could barely pull off just handling the drums for the Daniel Lioneye performance at Helldone, and he has a hard enough time simply singing well consistently these days. Gas quit because his heart wasn't into HIM anymore and now he lives in LA. If they had to rely on him to come back and play with them for some gigs that they booked after he had already made the announcement that he was leaving, that would be a bad sign for the band in my opinion. I'm sure the band knew what was going on with Gas well before he let all of us in on it, maybe even as far back as when he had his injury as a just in case sort of thing if Gas suddenly wasn't able to play anymore, and they have been figuring out how they were going to replace him for awhile now so they could keep the ball rolling and not have a repeat of last time when they just completely disappeared off the map and lost a ton of momentum.
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I wonder if we will be seeing a more up and coming drummer. Like maybe someone who was in a lesser known group who didn't really make it big or maybe someone a bit younger than the rest of HIM. Kind of like how Journey has Arnel. He was homeless among other things but people had put his performance videos online and then BAM! lead singer of Journey. Someone like that could have less experience with performances and need to start out with smaller venues. Just a random thought though.
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well, one thing is for 100000000% sure about their drummer situation .......
you know what ? It wont be me ;D hahah
but they will sound the same, so whoever it is or will be, i hope it will work well
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Well, Gas has his own "sound" 'cause he bangs the drums hard as hell you know :DD
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The whole Kubana Festival was cancelled :o
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It was announced a couple of hours ago that the festival will be in Riga!
A few days ago it looked like it had to be cancelled (or it actually was) but they managed to find a different location. The details have yet to be discussed but there will be the main festival in Riga and a 'club gig marathon of the bands that were to have show on Yantarniy Beach' in Kaliningrad.
You can find the details on the Kubana Festival website and their facebook page.
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Who is going to see them? and where?
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I'm really not sure but maybe in Lutakko, Jyväskylä 16.08.
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27th December in Nottingham UK, then hopefully straight to the airport for Helldone.
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Anyone gonna record the show they're going?
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Yeah I'll record Nottingham and Tavastia.
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me - Fezen and Bratislava
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I'll be in Leipzig and record it (can't promise a decent quality though, will be my first time, hihi).
I just booked my train ticket and wondered how early I'll have to be at the venue to get a good spot. It has been a while...
And since it was discussed earlier: Täubchenthal is pretty small as well, 1200 people. I like that, though. I'll have the festival experience a few days later (without HIM).
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Prague!
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I checked heartagram.com and the Kubana festival has been removed from the shows list, but they replaced it with TWO gigs named:
SAT 08.08. TBC
SUN 09.08. TBC
What the hell TBC means ??? I guess the text isn't just complete yet :D
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I noticed that as well and googled tbc abbreviations. It's 'to be confirmed'. I guess with all the trouble moving the festival to Riga they probably have to reschedule a few things.
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Yep. I checked the Kubana website and HIM isn't on the lineup yet.
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Summer Rock Festival at Riga, Latvia was moved on to winter time, without date and place.
Perfomance at Kubana Festival at Riga, Latvia was moved on to 8 of august from 9 of august. And new date - 9 of august - Sport Palace Yantarniy, Kaliningrad, Russia.
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One more date: 2015.10.23 - Greenfest, Krasnodar, Russia.
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is the rumor that they were practicing "I Love You" at the rehearsals false or is anything truth on it?..
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I hope it's true. Their setlist needs an overhaul. It's always the same songs over and over.
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Where do people even hear these rumors? Apparantly I was way to lame for the latest gossip in school already and it's just story of my life pretty much^^
I'd love to hear them play Cyanide Sun and Please Don't Let It Go (Hollola) which is probably never going to happen -_-
I was wondering how often/much they actually enjoy playing their own stuff. I mean, on the one hand it's what they created themselves. But on the other hand I can't even imagine how often they played all that and how many thoughts were spent on each detail (that I probably didn't even notice <.<), it has to get annoying. How often do they really think: 'This bit/song is so great, I forgot how awesome it is' or 'I love this so much, even after all this time'?
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these rumors and gossips are always there, its like "one old lady said".... few of these rumors in the past were actually truth, but most is just probably fan fiction made by fan just to get attention i dont know
but i wanna hear Resurrection no matter what and if they will have the same setlist as they had in 2013 with less ToT songs it will be so bad
for me it seems like they think this way : "these (babl,rotwoab,wicked,join,funeral,666,rhima,kod) are our most known singles/hits we must play them so people will recognize them and enjoy them the most as they are most known" ..... but i think they are so far from the reality in that
This is OK for a festival where there is most of the people non-HIM fans so it is reasonable, but at their show where every head in the crowd is here because of them and is there becuase he likes them, even rare songs like Dont Close Your Heart which is a terrible album filler song would be well appriciated and the reaction from the audience would have been great.
I like the love metal archives setlist because of these two - Pretending & Heartache Every Moment. If they will have Pretending in the setlist this tour i will be half happy as its one of their best songs and i love it. If they will do some older gems like - Beyond Redemption or I Love You - i will be as happy as if they did And Love Said No, which is after Resurrection my most wanted song that i wanna hear live
but if you look at it -
they are doing - RHIMA , Join Me and Poison Girl all the time (poison girl was retired for 2013 only)
they did Bury Me Deep in 2009 at Helldone
they did Razorblade Kiss last year
they did Death Is In Love With Us at 2013 helldone
they did Gone with the sin in 2012 at Helldone and in Turku + last year
I think from Razorblade Romance album if they wanna do something from that album - the only TWO songs that are so underrated and skipped by the band since its release are - Resurrection + I Love You
they did I Love You only few times in 1998 and 1999 when it was still unreleased and they did White House version with Juska . And they did Resurrection only in 2000 because they only had 2 albums so they played most of the album songs back in the days and they did Resurrection during 2004 tour , since then not a single time.
I think this should be the YEAR, so Ville, Linde, Mige, Burton or whoever - i prayed every night for the Resurrection in your setlist for the Fezen or Bratislava gigs, please - you will please more than one soul ....
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I will sacrifice my right lung for Endless Dark
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I just want this band to get their balls back. That's all. I miss how much of a badass rock band they used to be.
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That comment reminds of what Bam said about them recently.
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That comment reminds of what Bam said about them recently.
Well, what did he say?
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“Favourite band to see live?
Let’s see… live, man I’ve seen so many fucking shows because I won a club and been on many tours, best band live… I would have to say HIM in their earlier days just because it was new and fresh, then Ville went to rehab and he kind of turned anti-social and kind of lost his mood, it seemed like for a little while he was just going through the motions, but when the band was in their prime I would say them.”
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Bam Margera_April 29, 2015
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I had to dig through tumblr to find that, which is why I didn't post it to start with. But it wasn't as hard to find as I expected.
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i have to agree with Bam
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I saw that the other day for some reason and I too agree but unfortunately was too young to see them in their prime so YouTube videos will have to do. But I would say after the atrocity that was Helldone 2012 where I didn't think he'd ever get his voice back he's back to a decent level and the shows are enjoyable again. I guess we'll see in a few weeks and maybe find out who the drummer is unless they stick them behind a curtain to keep the secret.
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lolsob...
Yeah, sounds pretty sad actually. I was too young back then as well. But to me it feels kinda weird watching videos from gigs years and years ago.
The good thing for me is that I want to like it so much, I'll be happy anyway. Don't disillusion me, guys^^
And thanks for digging through tumblr for this!
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lolsob...
Yeah, sounds pretty sad actually. I was too young back then as well. But to me it feels kinda weird watching videos from gigs years and years ago.
The good thing for me is that I want to like it so much, I'll be happy anyway. Don't disillusion me, guys^^
And thanks for digging through tumblr for this!
I don't agree with Bam at all. Having seen them over the years, they are only getting better. I'm not big on Ville playing guitar now, especially since it has taken focus away from his vocals, but the band was tighter than ever at the Fillmore last year. I would have to say that 2010 was their best tour sound-wise though. Don't let the nostalgia hounds spoil your excitement or distort your experience, any HIM show is better than the best show by any other band.
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lolsob...
Yeah, sounds pretty sad actually. I was too young back then as well. But to me it feels kinda weird watching videos from gigs years and years ago.
The good thing for me is that I want to like it so much, I'll be happy anyway. Don't disillusion me, guys^^
And thanks for digging through tumblr for this!
I don't agree with Bam at all. Having seen them over the years, they are only getting better. I'm not big on Ville playing guitar now, especially since it has taken focus away from his vocals, but the band was tighter than ever at the Fillmore last year. I would have to say that 2010 was their best tour sound-wise though. Don't let the nostalgia hounds spoil your excitement or distort your experience, any HIM show is better than the best show by any other band.
I don't know... Blue October's performance that Jay and I just saw was by far the best concert I've been to and easily better than any HIM performance I've seen. I hate to admit it, cause I don't want it to be true, but to be brutally honest, the HIM shows I've attended were kinda boring. Sure, the sound was great, but they don't put on much of a show anymore.
I don't know what Jay thought about the show, but he did seem very surprised and had a lot of fun. Maybe he'll see this and chime in. 8)
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I agree with Bam, too. I've seen them pre-rehab and post-rehab.
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In my country we have a proverb about this: "the alcohol does not forgive anyone"
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lolsob...
Yeah, sounds pretty sad actually. I was too young back then as well. But to me it feels kinda weird watching videos from gigs years and years ago.
The good thing for me is that I want to like it so much, I'll be happy anyway. Don't disillusion me, guys^^
And thanks for digging through tumblr for this!
I don't agree with Bam at all. Having seen them over the years, they are only getting better. I'm not big on Ville playing guitar now, especially since it has taken focus away from his vocals, but the band was tighter than ever at the Fillmore last year. I would have to say that 2010 was their best tour sound-wise though. Don't let the nostalgia hounds spoil your excitement or distort your experience, any HIM show is better than the best show by any other band.
I don't know... Blue October's performance that Jay and I just saw was by far the best concert I've been to and easily better than any HIM performance I've seen. I hate to admit it, cause I don't want it to be true, but to be brutally honest, the HIM shows I've attended were kinda boring. Sure, the sound was great, but they don't put on much of a show anymore.
I don't know what Jay thought about the show, but he did seem very surprised and had a lot of fun. Maybe he'll see this and chime in. 8)
I do agree that the bands we saw still had energy (to be fair, most were newer bands) and appeared to be excited to be playing. Blue October has been around a while, but they still seemed into their music. We purposely skipped Shinedown's set because...Shinedown.
HIM just seems to be content to get their 1 hour show in and move on. I'm sure it's hard to get up to playing the same damn songs over and over again and they may be too lazy at this point to rehearse some of the deeper tracks. We've discussed before how they can easily manage 2 hours if they wanted to, but even just another half hour would be good enough to add in some fresh tracks.
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summer setlist:
PASSIONS
RHIMA
666
SURPRISE-WICKED GAME
BABL
PRETENDING
VAMPIRE/LONELINESS
JOIN ME
KOD
RESURRECTION/SACRAMENT
HEARTKILLER
WLADE
ROTWOAB
FUNERAL/BURY ME
ITS ALL
POISON GIRL
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NO LOVE/FOR YOU
REBEL
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summer setlist:
PASSIONS
RHIMA
666
SURPRISE-WICKED GAME
BABL
PRETENDING
VAMPIRE/LONELINESS
JOIN ME
KOD
RESURRECTION/SACRAMENT
HEARTKILLER
WLADE
ROTWOAB
FUNERAL/BURY ME
ITS ALL
POISON GIRL
______
NO LOVE/FOR YOU
REBEL
SURPRISE = new HIM song?
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@EvilRob - i wrote : SURPRISE - Wicked Game - that was ironic LOL, most overplayed song
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@Jay Yeah, it's hard to admit for a fan, but HIM gigs do tend to be way too short. I remember my first concert in December 2001 in Warsaw - it was exactly 60 minutes and I felt bitterly disappointed. The next one I attended, in June 2013 (also in Warsaw, and they haven't visited Poland in between!) was 80-85 minutes, which was better, but still not good enough (but that was a festival appearance). Now I'm going to a gig on August 5 (guess what, in Warsaw!) and I seriously hope it's gonna last some 100 minutes at least...
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Anyone else having withdrawals?? I miss the guys being out there in the spotlight. I've listened to my diehard bundle a gazillion times over now.
I read through the comments and have to say I don't agree with what Bam said. For someone who is probably old enough to be everyone's "auntie", and has frequented many of concerts from all sorts of bands, I can say with certainty that I have never been to a HIM show that sucked. These guys sound AMAZING live - they have their shit together and you won't ever see a drunk Linde effin up a guitar solo or Mige not trying to engage the crowd a bit. I've been to concerts where the dude singing forgets the lyrics, can't hit any notes and the guitarist was out of tune...band members drunk and stumbling on stage (yes, can you tell I'm a 80s hairband chick? LOL).......so I honestly appreciate the measures that HIM puts in place to perform an excellent show.
Footage from the earlier shows look fun and Ville did seem to have a bit more spark and spunk in his commentary, but he's gotten older and I think he just takes what he's doing really seriously. I dunno, just my perception. And sure, there could be a little more interaction with the crowd, but I also feel like the band feeds off the vibe they get from the audience. If the audience sucks and is just standing their picking their asses, it's hard to get excited on stage. I've been to some shows where I was amazed at how dull the crowd was and felt like the guys didn't know how much we really appreciated them and were glad they performed. For me, they will always be my favorite and I know that I'll get my money's worth seeing them perform. I do, however, feel like they need to revamp the set list. But I also feel like the reception at some of the shows here in the US for the archives tour could have been better. I saw the footage of them singing Love's Requiem and people looked bored....man, if I would have been there I would have died! That's one of my favorites!!!
Okay, rant done.
Hope everyone is doing well!! And dammit, will they tell us who is drumming already!?!
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Bratislava, Slovakia is sold out....well done! :)
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So, according to the facebook page of HIM Norway, Helldone 2015 is confirmed - and this years tour is named 'Tour Of The Middle Aged MMXV' :D
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/11219113_922592991131894_7895282157999840356_n.jpg?oh=319891322cf51e5093029a0cf6bacddc&oe=563FAF24)
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11752546_922616954462831_6608624579885152409_n.jpg?oh=e334dad35b377722fec67da496a405f8&oe=565683EC)
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Love it!
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So beside what u all know we got pretending, heqrtache, scared to death, lips go blue, tears on tape, killing loneliness..here in Romania
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So beside what u all know we got pretending, heqrtache, scared to death, lips go blue, tears on tape, killing loneliness..here in Romania
and heqrtkiller
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So beside what u all know we got pretending, heqrtache, scared to death, lips go blue, tears on tape, killing loneliness..here in Romania
and heqrtkiller
and the sac :)
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I hope they eventually sell that Tour Of The Middle Aged shirt online. It's very 2001-ish old school looking. Love it.
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they also did in joy and sorrow and gone with the sin. Nice setlist but Ville sounded like shit.
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http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/him/2015/parcul-rozelor-timisoara-romania-3bf65840.html (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/him/2015/parcul-rozelor-timisoara-romania-3bf65840.html)
really? 23 songs?
all the singles , like greatest hits. i dont wanna bitch but this setlist sucks, only good things in it (well if that setlist is not false!) are:
heartache, pretending and scared to death
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Shuddup about the damn setlist already, lol!!! :P
You're gonna see HIM again and they are in great shape, that's that really matters!!! ;)
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yeah, tonight and tomorrow as well, hopefully i will have a good spot and no screaming girls around
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I kind a miss WLADE but Bleed Well and Scared to Death is awesome...my favorite songs from Venus Doom and Screamworks. I like this setlist
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I kind a miss WLADE but Bleed Well and Scared to Death is awesome...my favorite songs from Venus Doom and Screamworks. I like this setlist
You miss WLADE? It's on the setlist, mate :)
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I kind a miss WLADE but Bleed Well and Scared to Death is awesome...my favorite songs from Venus Doom and Screamworks. I like this setlist
You miss WLADE? It's on the setlist, mate :)
Oh sorry....I was blind. So this is after couple years their best sestlist in my opinion
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Thats a good setlist in my opinion I'm just praying they keep Scared To Death in it until Helldone, can't wait to hear that again.
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only singles setlist, they completely skipped the other album songs
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The band knows full well (as do we) what type of fans make up the majority of the audiences that they play in front of, and it sure as hell isn't people like "us" anymore. It honestly never was to begin with either, but "we" have just become an even lesser part of the crowd as the years have gone by. The majority always rules. They're just simply not going to totally revamp the setlist and change it from the same old same old into something that we would deem satisfactory when practically everyone else who's attending these concerts is perfectly happy with the way it is now and has been. I mean, just take the Love Metal Archives tour for example. It sold like shit. Granted it was really poor timing to do a tour, but still. They played Love's Requiem once and everyone in the audience seemed confused. It didn't sound all that great live, but I would say fuck it too if no one cared about it. Why take the time to practice songs like that, especially ones that have never been played live before, just to get no reaction when people STILL go crazy once they hear just the first few notes of Rip Out The Wings Of A Butterfly? As much as I would love more of a balance in the setlist at the very least, the crowds just don't necessitate it, and I can completely understand why the band doesn't waste their time re-learning and practicing deeper selections from their catalogue if only a handful of people in attendance are truly going to care and appreciate whatever it is they're playing, while the rest are standing there like, "Never heard this one before LOL! Ville's so dreamy! VILLE, I LOVE YOU! MARRY ME! VILLE, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THIS SONG? IS IT NEW? VILLE, I LOVE YOU! PLAY RIGHT HERE IN MY ARMS!". Then you always have one guy, always standing in the middle of the audience, yelling out Rebel Yell the entire fucking night. Dude, they're gonna play it. Just chill.
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Fezen gig was superb i mean one of the best HIM gigs. More info tomorrow.
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allright to the fezen, the setlist was the same as in Romania , Timisoara
they sounded amazing, all of them i dont know if its because these songs are still the same but not the same as the drummer is different and they sound different, i dont know if i enjoyed it only because i was used to the same versions with Gas, but with Kosmo they were different and i liked it
its impossible to compare Kosmo and Gas as they are different, but i think now HIM sounds the greatest ever. Even Ville was great yesterday - or at least he sounded great , and after the gig i was completely like "that was amazing" , when compared to Prague 2013 this was gig, Prague gig was not gig but shit . When compared to Bratislava 2005 ten years ago , Fezen was 10 times better !! then my first HIM gig!!!
tonight Bratislava, MMC. cant wait.
only few complains - fucking bitches sitting on 2 metters tall guys back ..... like 4 or 5 of them almost the entire gig in front of me....... i hope you enjoyed that you ruined the entire gig to the people standing behind you.....
the only thing that i think HIM should change now at their concerts is their lights..... they use too much of "dark" - nothing almost so they are barely visible on stage , and too much blue and too much red. They need to get back to the 2005 stanging stage lights!!!!!
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If YOU write this a I can't wait to Prague gig on monday!
I just saw Wicked Game from Fezen and this song never sound so dark!
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If YOU write this a I can't wait to Prague gig on monday!
I just saw Wicked Game from Fezen and this song never sound so dark!
yeah Wicked Game was really heavy/dark
more songs were actually! they are amazing, i hope tonight they will be even better than yesterday
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yeah when they start playing Wicked Game at Roses Park i thought that they playing the song in that way for first time since 1999 may be... they used to play the UK version of the song too long
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I like the new drummer. If anyone remembers I was getting tired of Gas. ;D
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Bratislava gig was like hundred times stronger and better than yesterday. Same setlist but they soloed in wickeg game and encore before rebel yell Linde improvised a little solo on stage . They are getting better and better.
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Bratislava gig was like hundred times stronger and better than yesterday. Same setlist but they soloed in wickeg game and encore before rebel yell Linde improvised a little solo on stage . They are getting better and better.
Really glad to hear it!
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Prague gig was awesome. I met HIM Norway, great talk with him. Same setlist and there was so hot so after the gig my sell phone died I haven't any videos, photos or anything
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Judging by the youtube videos I've seen of this tour... Ville sounds pretty tired and inconsistent, but DAMN what a scream during Bleed Well at 2:15 (https://youtu.be/nA-bxPQoB6o?t=2m15s)
Love the fresh breath of air with Kosmo, hope Ville keeps working on his voice though.
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So... I was told that Kubana festival on August 9th is normally streaming the gigs online...
That's interesting... *rubs hands*
Haven't found a link yet but since the festival starts a couple of days before HIM plays I guess I'll find out that they use to stream and get prepared.
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We must be ready , hopefully they will stream HIM and hopefully HIM will have 100 minutes as they had at Fezen. Proshot would have been absolutely splendid
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Probably this: http://www.youtube.com/user/KubanaFest (http://www.youtube.com/user/KubanaFest)
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preview of my Nokia Lumia 520 recording , from the pocket of my jeans :D
MMC, Bratislava, Slovakia
08.02.2015
RHIMA - http://we.tl/16AB0BaZTA (http://we.tl/16AB0BaZTA)
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Kosmo plays with a very Patka-like style. More to the record, whereas Gas had more of a live version he stuck to with many of the songs (or play the RR songs on the Ride instead of the crashes, or the VD songs on the crashes not the ride..) Maybe because of his length of time in the band and different styles of certain songs they played over the years? (Some songs underwent post-tracking production, so sometimes the drums get edited and switched up. DSBH...). Patka's feel also that equally fits so well (less crash hits between measures, constant kick pattern notations, close as possible to the album tracks) . I've been drumming a long time, so to me this makes sense lol, sorry.
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So I was in Leipzig, first things first: Fuck you, Google Maps! -- Thank you so much Random Guy With A Bike, you totally saved the day, I probably would have never even made it to the gig without you, I'm eternally grateful :D
I can't compare it to any other gig, but it was awesome! The guys seemed to have their fun, the audience seemed to have their fun, and I definitely had!
They sounded great! I was especially impressed with Ville's screams, very strong and some of them he held for quite a while -- without getting any weaker.
The Streetteam handed out 'Welcome Kosmo' signs for everyone to hold up in the beginning, which was cool, he's probably not in the easiest of situations, replacing a long term member of a band with such devoted fans.
Ville laughed his ass off after singing 'It's Linde on the guitar' right before the guitar solo during YS666 instead of whatever he uses to sing there. Later he forgot the GWTS lyrics, faltered for a moment, then looked at Burton asking 'What happend?' as if it was his fault :D
It was great overall, I wished I could go again. Will have to wait for far too long /o\
For me personally it was quite an adventure: I was on my own, 5h train ride from home, and google maps failed me completely so I had trouble finding the venue (and the way back to my hotel, probably even worse...), but that made me meet great people, which was pretty cool. (None of this was my fault, shut up xD)
The last time I cared this much about a gig I went to was when I was ~13 so I was pretty much like 'OMG these people exist and they are more or less in my vicinity, holy shit, I'm dying!?' but this time I was much more relaxed and simply incredibly happy to be there, I was surrounded be very nice people and it never felt as wonderful to sing along to each song. I would have never thought I liked anything about getting older xD
Give these young girls a break, they can't handle their hormones ;)
/quasi-diary entry done, sorry xD
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Ville laughed his ass off after singing 'It's Linde on the guitar' right before the guitar solo during YS666 instead of whatever he uses to sing there. Later he forgot the GWTS lyrics, faltered for a moment, then looked at Burton asking 'What happend?' as if it was his fault :D
It was great overall, I wished I could go again. Will have to wait for far too long /o\
I just saw YS666 moment and I can't stop with laughing. But anyway during search about GWTS from Leipzig I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxWBdJsBCrQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxWBdJsBCrQ) and Ville forgot words again in Poland....it's hilarious
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I just saw YS666 moment and I can't stop with laughing. But anyway during search about GWTS from Leipzig I found this [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxWBdJsBCrQ[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxWBdJsBCrQ[/url]) and Ville forgot words again in Poland....it's hilarious
Ahaha, yeah, that's hilarious :D
He probably couldn't think of a touch cold as ice as it was so fucking hot xD
You can see the Leipzig version here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up1PHQyHt_g), the last minute is GWTS.
Anyway, for German speaking (err, reading xD) peeps, there's an article about the Leipzig gig (http://www.lvz.de/Kultur/News/Schweiss-und-Traenen-HIM-vor-1000-Fans-im-Taeubchenthal). I don't think the author enjoyed it particularly much as it's written almost sarcastically, but I really had to laugh :D
Actually, he aimes mostly for the corny lyrics, sentimantalism, and Ville seemingly being a shy and androgynous youth next to all that manliness on stage, despite being a tattooed 38-year-old with a well-toned upper body :D They also call him a literal fashion victim because he's wearing a beanie even if it's quite hot xD
I still have to laugh every time I read it, it's hilarious :D
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preview of my Nokia Lumia 520 recording , from the pocket of my jeans :D
MMC, Bratislava, Slovakia
08.02.2015
RHIMA - [url]http://we.tl/16AB0BaZTA[/url] ([url]http://we.tl/16AB0BaZTA[/url])
Hey this sounds nice for an "ass" recording! :P <3
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a little distorted but kind of nice yeah i know, my ass is a nice environment for making the bootlegs , obviously :D
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and for your full pleasure, here is Killing Loneliness video from Fezen
http://we.tl/3LB7xZgy5b (http://we.tl/3LB7xZgy5b)
enjoy oh boy :D
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HIM gonna play on Kubana today - can't find stream on YT our any.
For example, reggae festiwal in Poland http://livestream.com/accounts/9599868/events/4250225 (http://livestream.com/accounts/9599868/events/4250225)
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There's not gonna be a stream... Been looking since 3 days ago...
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They moved from Russia last minute becouse of ortodox. Anyway some bands forbined stream in years before. Good news there is Russian site with whole 2014 HDCam so I'm hoping they record HIM.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37wfRZhg7k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37wfRZhg7k)
Migé rocks! I love that guy!
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Michael Jackson > Steve Perry > Ville Valo
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Such interview, much new, wow, so information (http://maximumrock.ro/interviuri/9882-ville-valo-and-the-forgotten-absolute-of-love-portrait-of-the-artist-as-a-mirror-in-pieces.html)
There is a new interview (July 31, published yesterday) in which Ville speaks about the upcoming album. Not exactly much to gather from it, but that's no surprise at this early stage, I guess.
Every single one of your records has had a distinct identity. "Tears On Tape" seems to be your most eclectic yet, combining elements from the previous releases. What do you think its follow-up will sound like? What will define it?
Obviously the big change in the band is the fact that we have a new drummer now. Today (31.07.2015) will be the second gig with him so we're still in our "Honeymoon" phase. I am sure that this change will affect everything. His influences are a bit different from the ones Gas had, even though they come from the same metal influenced world. However, the drummer is a great guy and he's injecting us with newfound, bigger or whatever you want to call it positivity. It remains to be seen. I've been putting together a few bits and bobs back at home, some kind of skeletal ideas that are not fully realized yet. It's hard to say because I'd wake up Monday morning and it would be great to do a really Type O Negative vibey one, and then I'd wake up on Tuesday and I'd love the record to be a really Turbonegro one. It keeps on changing and I believe that this is cool and important because it also means that we're never sure how everything will sound until the album is done, which really keeps the band on its toes. It's a constant struggle...but a very forgiving one.
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"it would be great to do a really Type O Negative vibey one"
PLEASE! For the love of all that is holy! Something similar to Gone with the Sin from SWD would be awesome.
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i am just leaving this here
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Pieter_Bruegel_%281565%29_Fall_of_the_Magician.jpg
so Jay, or who makes the skins and themes , they are using it at the gigs as the backdrop and it looks absolutely brilliant
attachment taken from my video. *it looks like they inverted black and white and with all the changes of the colours of the lights it is amazing
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i am just leaving this here
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Pieter_Bruegel_%281565%29_Fall_of_the_Magician.jpg
so Jay, or who makes the skins and themes , they are using it at the gigs as the backdrop and it looks absolutely brilliant
attachment taken from my video. *it looks like they inverted black and white and with all the changes of the colours of the lights it is amazing
Thank you for this... I was curious about it.
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"...if you'd be heartbroken by every little obstacle in the world, in general, you couldn't leave your apartment."
I am a bleeding heart who frequently has trouble convincing myself to leave my apartment so this comment stings a bit. Like, "You fail at life." Oh.... :-\
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"...if you'd be heartbroken by every little obstacle in the world, in general, you couldn't leave your apartment."
I am a bleeding heart who frequently has trouble convincing myself to leave my apartment so this comment stings a bit. Like, "You fail at life." Oh.... :-\
I'd lie if I said 'I know how you feel' because I don't know you. But I fought depressions (and other related issues) for years - I've been in a mental health clinic for 5 months and was in therapy for 2.5 years. I don't know what you're batteling against, but if you want to talk about it with someone, feel free to message me.
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i am just leaving this here
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Pieter_Bruegel_%281565%29_Fall_of_the_Magician.jpg
so Jay, or who makes the skins and themes , they are using it at the gigs as the backdrop and it looks absolutely brilliant
attachment taken from my video. *it looks like they inverted black and white and with all the changes of the colours of the lights it is amazing
Awesome! I love the theme of the tour so far...It'll be fun to do a new skin! I'm currently using the Screamworks theme.
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HIM will be playing Knotfest in Mexico in December!
(http://heartagram.com/i/KnotFestMexico.jpg)
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HIM will be playing Knotfest in Mexico in December!
([url]http://heartagram.com/i/KnotFestMexico.jpg[/url])
Oh wow! Man, if it were closer to the border I'd honestly consider a road trip.
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HIM's playing a few shows in Japan in November.
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12033212_1027216303990383_1212303541487767579_n.jpg?oh=cdfdeaa5f619f582c216c4e7d4489bd7&oe=56923C5B)
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10.21 setlist (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/him/2015/a2-saint-petersburg-russia-4bf5a3c2.html)
Not sure if this is 100%, not a horrible setlist, nice to see theyre still playing deep shadows songs still hopefully they ad some more rare songs for the next tour, they need to play loves requiem im still mad at myself I decided to go to starland amd not nyc >:(
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https://twitter.com/saintscream/status/656919016796266496
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fuck this band, they had 2 months off, they have a new drummer and they didnt even bother to practice their other song with him to see how is he doing it live.
NO, instead of that, they got stuck on their singles and thats it. There is no need for them to make a new album. Why? Just to add it to the collection? And what is the band good for if they play still the same 15 songs on every gig ? 8 albums and they are playing the same songs over and over again. Year after year.
It was obvious when they tried to do rare song last year - Loves Requiem. It sucked so they dropped it after ONE try. They can do these songs, they dont need to spend time in the rehearsals as they are actually practicing these songs on every concert.
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And that's why I have no plans to see HIM. Same old, same old...
and Ville has the stage presence of a rock.
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Same shitty set list. I'm sure Ville sounded nasally and off key yet again. I mean, if he thinks changing the set list will mess with his vocals/music, he should stop performing, because his vocals suck now.
The only way I see them changing the set list is if Ville has an accident and his face is disfigured and he looks like a monster. Then the fangirls will stop coming to shows, and people won't go to see the same fucjing songs they always play...
There's literally 5 songs that should be on the setlist every time: WOAB, YS666, Wicked Game, Join Me and Right here in my arms. The other 10-15 should be different every night.
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If Ville thinks they need to play only singles to accommodate everyone he's wrong anyone who wants to see them probably has by now. He'd be far better off keeping the old fans happy than playing singles incase there's new fans there. I think the fact the Helldone hasn't sold out is a terrible sign for the band its unheard of.
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Sick of the complaining about the set. They have 8 albums and every artist plays the hits. When they promote an album they will play the new songs. If u want an artist who plays different sets than go to a dave matthews show. They brought back rebel yell, dsabh songs, sw songs, for you etc recently. Sick of the whining.
Wish i woulda went to the NY show to hear loves requim too, woulda been better than the MD show.
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They have 8 albums, and they are playing the same songs over and over again, 2 song max from an album but now they retired Screamworks songs again. Recently they retired all ToT songs as well....... What is the point of playing covers if they have 8 albums? Fuck Rebel Yell, fuck Wicked Game.
When they will release another album, the first songs to go retired will be DSBH songs, the rest will be the same. Its simple - they dont need to spend time rehearsing, they did these songs so many times live that they can play it backwards with hands tied up.... And "all" the fans must be happy and satisfied because they will do BABL, JOIN ME and ROTWOAB... 1 setlist for the entire YEAR , changes only that we will retire some songs throughout the tour, wont add fresh tracks.
Singles are not their hits, these were chosen by label to sell out most records. Its not showing the quality of the band and its not their "greatest" . The real gems are ignored by the band.
Just look at the "dream setlist", "wanted live songs" and topics like that. I doubt someone truly want to hear BABL live,... or Kiss of Dawn....
At least they still keep Pretending, surprisingly, but at least.....
Of course fans are bitching, what else we can do? You wont enjoy the same shit all the time, try listening to ONE particular song for like few hours , you will be sick of it after 1 hour.
There is no need of attending more HIM shows, one gig per tour is enough because you know you wont miss anything if you wont follow their tour.... The lack of surprise is terrible.
This is not the greatest attitude towards the fans i suppose...
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Their next album should be called "Cruise Control" and consist only of re-recordings of songs everyone loves and NEVER gets tired of like Buried Alive By Love, Rip Out The Wings Of A Butterfly, and The Kiss Of Dawn. Several years in the making! Should sell like hotcakes.
All I know is that something needs to be done to slow down this free fall, but I don't know what it could be at this point. It's too little, too late. In many ways, they made their own bed; now they have to lie in it. You can't just fall off the face of the Earth and expect everyone to still be standing around waiting for your return so you can just pick right up where you left off from, and you certainly can't alienate the ones who did decide it was worth it to stay through that time period when you do finally come back.
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I haven't been around long enough to feel comfortable judging the setlist, so I won't. However, I do find it weird that they didn't play any SW or TOT songs, since those are their most recent albums. I mean, they did play a couple of those in August, so why not keep a few, even if the set was shorter now in general?
And I get why people are annoyed (though I don't mind the set list, personally) but I also see why they're sticking to singles. Both sides do have valid points. In the end, it doesn't even matter what they play, there will always be people complaining.
I mean, if he thinks changing the set list will mess with his vocals/music, he should stop performing, because his vocals suck now.
Was there any talk of this? (Ville thinking that, not his vocals sucking >.>) Because I don't exactly get your train of thought tbh. Why should a different set list change the quality of his vocals? Do you want to imply that the current set list contains the songs he sings least terribly, or...?
The only way I see them changing the set list is if Ville has an accident and his face is disfigured and he looks like a monster. Then the fangirls will stop coming to shows, and people won't go to see the same fucjing songs they always play...
I do realize that this is some kind of pet peeve for me. But I really can't stand it when 'the fangirls' get blamed for everything. Seriously. Every now and then someone here on the forum does that and it's usually utter bullshit.
Yes, there are people - admittedly, mostly girls - in the fandom and at gigs that, let's say, might overdo it a bit. They get very excited, maybe they scream a lot, maybe they have a celebrity crush on one of the guys (You probably won't believe me but it's not always only Ville, you know?) or whatever. You have every right to be annoyed with that, even though I think it would be much easier for everyone if you just accepted it and stopped complaining. There's no use in it whatsoever and it's really getting on my nerves.
And now, more importantly and to focus a bit more on your statement: Stop randomly blaming 'fangirls', ffs.
Since it's always about fangirls, what do you think how girls 'choose' what music or band they like? Browse bandpics and become a fan of the one with the best-looking guys? You can't possibly think that. Stop implying that 'fangirls' are superficial horny teenagers running after good-looking musicians without caring about the music in any way.
I'm not sure how much you mean it or how much you're, well, 'joking', I don't only find your suggestion appalling but I also don't get how you could think this would solve your problem of a 'shitty set list'. It's really not that easy.
Can you honestly imagine the band would notice there aren't any 'fangirls' at their gigs anymore and happily change it? Do you think the only thing holding them back is a bunch of girls that only like the most well-known songs? (What would be wrong with that anyway?) Do you assume everyone who is not a hardcore fan only goes to gigs to stare at Ville? (There's not enough stage lighting for that to be a valid option anyway.)
I don't think your conclusion makes any sense. If Ville was looking 'like a monster', people would still want to hear the most well-known songs. What kind of logic are you following? 'Ugly people have only hardcore fans that want to hear not!singles live'? 'Songs written by monster!Ville only appeal to sensible people like us and thus won't attract any 'fangirls''?
As you can see, I have a lot of strong feelings about this and I could probably go on for a few paragraphs more, but I'm sure you get the idea.
I know I got really worked up about this and that I wouldn't even need to feel addressed by your comment. I'm sorry I picked that statement apart this bad, but this really hit a nerve and it's not the first occasion on which someone unjustifiedly blamed 'fangirls', so I really felt the need to write about it this lengthy. I'm shutting up now.
tl;dr: Stop blaming your 'fangirls' ffs. They're neither how you picture them nor in any way related to your problem.
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You guys are all little whiny bitches. Seriously, if you don't like the band anymore then fucking leave. Personally, aside from the drunken disaster year of 2006, each time I've seen them over the years they've gotten better and better. Last year when I saw them at The Fillmore in San Francisco they were tighter and more focused than ever.
You guys do realize that this is exactly what you do every time there is a lull, right? You all freak out and say the band is going to shit and that you're on the edge of saying "Fuck you!" to HIM forever... and then they put out a new album and everything is peaches and cream again. Unless you're @616 and you're never happy unless they decide to bring "Resurrection" out of retirement which they never will since it's slow and plodding and doesn't serve to get anyone moving.
That's what you all forget: most people just want to go and enjoy a night out with their significant other shaking their ass to something familiar. It's call the music BUSINESS. The reason a band plays what they play on a given tour is based on the audience they are playing to, and generally the hits are what people want to see. Only the diehard fans want to see rarities and new shit. You have to remember that most of the people attending these shows are only passing listeners of HIM and would never know a song like "Stigmata Diaboli" if they played it.
It becomes painfully obvious that none of you have ever been in a touring band every time you cry about shit like this.
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@Kuusi i like your post, but if Resurrection is slow and wont make anyone moving,.... how In joy and sorrow, KISS OF DAWN, WLADE, .. will? Resurrection is similar to Funeral Of Hearts and they are doing it anyway. It has nothing to do with "its slow and plodding and people will be dead still in the crowd. Resurrection was never a single, its the 10th song on the album and they simply will rather do Gone with the sin if they have to bring back some RR song because it was a single and there was a music video so "more people will know it"... but yeah it was 15 years ago, a lot of fans were still just recently born and when they grew to age they found HIM maybe when TOT ..... Gone With The Sin was already so unknown as its not being part of the nowadays hitparades ,.....
The point i would like to express is that, there is a stable part of their fanbase. But if they will do always just the same on EVERY gig of the entire tour, there is no need to see it again because "oh look there is another favorite band" playing the same night as HIM but i have already heard Wicked Game 30 times and the rest of the setlist 25+ ,.. i will rather go to see whatever other band playing the same night instead as i wont miss anything on HIM gig" ..... The essence of the music business should be "making as much as possible" and if they wont be able to sell out the gig at the venue with 1500 capacity, its not a good business even though the 700 will scream and squirt with BABL.....
Practicing 30 songs for a tour and keeping 12 songs stable (hits) and the rest 5/6 rotating each gig will make more fans to follow them as "oh fuck they played Beyond Redemption yesterday and two days earlier they did Dead Lovers Lane instead! That is my favorite song and i was always hoping to hear it. What if they will do Bury Me Deep Inside tonight? I cant risk it, lets see them again" ... they need to keep their fans excited. It costs a little of rotating songs in the setlist as they are not playing live shows just because they love their hits.....
I have seen them on Fezen festival this august and the day after in Bratislava, i mean Fezen was great i enjoyed it and it was great to hear and see them again. But in Bratislava it was THE SAME so it was , "yeah i know exactly when i need to start and stop recording with camera so i wont miss the intro of the next song" .... altough they sounded much better in Bratislava, but i was already satisfied from Fezen so the same songs did nothing to me.
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I don't expect them to change the setlist mid tour but why go back to the boring one even Helldone shows have the same boring setlist plus maybe 2 extra songs if you're lucky and with the ridiculous price of $100+ a night they should do better.
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You know your business plan is working great when on your last US tour, not one single show sold out; or when two out of the three of your upcoming yearly New Years shows that everyone used to always look forward still have tickets remaining at the end of October. Look at all the shit once considered rare and valuable on eBay that everyone's trying to get rid of now, but no one wants, even when some of the asking prices are a mere fraction of what they used to go for. Look at the HIM Collectors page on Facebook and see all of the interest people have on there to buy things that were once highly valued, or simply anything at all. Now, granted, the prices back when the band's popularity was in its peak were hugely inflated due to a bunch of teenage fans with jobs but no bills to pay, and they were all battling it out amongst each other to acquire as much shit as possible to show off on the Internet and be crowned the biggest HIM fan in the Galaxy - but still, the interest just isn't there anymore for older fans to want to keep their stuff still, or the new fans to want to have any of it from them. A band can't get by on just passing interest and casual fans alone, at least this one can't. They need to hook people and keep the people they already have hooked on board, but this band is simply terrible at doing that nowadays. They're just kind of whimpering along now in the shadows, staying as low key as possible and keeping everything that they may or may not be doing a secret. People get tired of being kept in the dark. They get tired of waiting, tired of getting excited for something that turns out to be a let down by their standards. People have gone crazy over the last few albums when they first came out, but you'll notice that soon after, once the buzz wears off, they're promptly put at the end of the list of their favorites. I don't know. Maybe we're the crazy ones for sticking around hoping things will change and get better. We all certainly know what this band is capable of. And that's just it: they're capable of more, and that's what's disappointing the most. I don't think anyone can disagree that they've lost their vigor. Gas said fuck it, this isn't fun or worth it anymore, and jumped off the sinking ship. I don't want to see the ship sink, though. I'd rather it regain it's strength one last time, wave goodbye with pride, and sail off into the sunset. Ville and company don't seem to agree, though. While the ship's going down, instead of trying to keep it afloat, they're just going through the motions until finally they all end up underwater. That's what it seems like to me anyways.
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DIA 10/12, no Circo Voador - Rio de Janeiro
DIA 11/12, no Tropical Butantã - São Paulo
Maybe i'll be going.
Btw, stop whining about the setlist, it's never going to be perfect and if u went to one single show in this Tears on Tape tour you can clearly see that Ville is just happy that some people still goes to his shows and nothing more.
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I haven't been around long enough to feel comfortable judging the setlist, so I won't. However, I do find it weird that they didn't play any SW or TOT songs, since those are their most recent albums. I mean, they did play a couple of those in August, so why not keep a few, even if the set was shorter now in general?
And I get why people are annoyed (though I don't mind the set list, personally) but I also see why they're sticking to singles. Both sides do have valid points. In the end, it doesn't even matter what they play, there will always be people complaining.
I mean, if he thinks changing the set list will mess with his vocals/music, he should stop performing, because his vocals suck now.
Was there any talk of this? (Ville thinking that, not his vocals sucking >.>) Because I don't exactly get your train of thought tbh. Why should a different set list change the quality of his vocals? Do you want to imply that the current set list contains the songs he sings least terribly, or...?
The only way I see them changing the set list is if Ville has an accident and his face is disfigured and he looks like a monster. Then the fangirls will stop coming to shows, and people won't go to see the same fucjing songs they always play...
I do realize that this is some kind of pet peeve for me. But I really can't stand it when 'the fangirls' get blamed for everything. Seriously. Every now and then someone here on the forum does that and it's usually utter bullshit.
Yes, there are people - admittedly, mostly girls - in the fandom and at gigs that, let's say, might overdo it a bit. They get very excited, maybe they scream a lot, maybe they have a celebrity crush on one of the guys (You probably won't believe me but it's not always only Ville, you know?) or whatever. You have every right to be annoyed with that, even though I think it would be much easier for everyone if you just accepted it and stopped complaining. There's no use in it whatsoever and it's really getting on my nerves.
And now, more importantly and to focus a bit more on your statement: Stop randomly blaming 'fangirls', ffs.
Since it's always about fangirls, what do you think how girls 'choose' what music or band they like? Browse bandpics and become a fan of the one with the best-looking guys? You can't possibly think that. Stop implying that 'fangirls' are superficial horny teenagers running after good-looking musicians without caring about the music in any way.
I'm not sure how much you mean it or how much you're, well, 'joking', I don't only find your suggestion appalling but I also don't get how you could think this would solve your problem of a 'shitty set list'. It's really not that easy.
Can you honestly imagine the band would notice there aren't any 'fangirls' at their gigs anymore and happily change it? Do you think the only thing holding them back is a bunch of girls that only like the most well-known songs? (What would be wrong with that anyway?) Do you assume everyone who is not a hardcore fan only goes to gigs to stare at Ville? (There's not enough stage lighting for that to be a valid option anyway.)
I don't think your conclusion makes any sense. If Ville was looking 'like a monster', people would still want to hear the most well-known songs. What kind of logic are you following? 'Ugly people have only hardcore fans that want to hear not!singles live'? 'Songs written by monster!Ville only appeal to sensible people like us and thus won't attract any 'fangirls''?
As you can see, I have a lot of strong feelings about this and I could probably go on for a few paragraphs more, but I'm sure you get the idea.
I know I got really worked up about this and that I wouldn't even need to feel addressed by your comment. I'm sorry I picked that statement apart this bad, but this really hit a nerve and it's not the first occasion on which someone unjustifiedly blamed 'fangirls', so I really felt the need to write about it this lengthy. I'm shutting up now.
tl;dr: Stop blaming your 'fangirls' ffs. They're neither how you picture them nor in any way related to your problem.
Ville is a perfectionist. He thinks if they changed the setlist he would fuck it up somehow.
You are right about the fangirls being all to blame for the setlist. Casual fans are to blame as well. And there are in fact girls and even guys as well that were attracted to HIM because of Ville's looks first and foremost. Take a look at the fans at the front of the stage. Mostly women. Although that is changing somewhat. How many videos on YouTube of close ups of Ville? When I say fangirls I don't mean women who are fans of the music and may also find Ville attractive.
I mean, look at all these definitions of Ville: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ville+valo (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ville+valo) He's being objectified for the most part.
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Ville is a perfectionist. He thinks if they changed the setlist he would fuck it up somehow.
I still don't exactly get it, sorry. I don't see how one could believe that changing a set list would cause any problems. Sure, there are better options and worse, but there's enough songs and options to arrange them in a nice order. And he won't sing a song better or worse if it was played sooner or later. Anyway.
You are right about the fangirls being all to blame for the setlist. Casual fans are to blame as well.
Well, I wouldn't want to blame anyone here, but that is of course a matter of perspective. I accept your opinion but I don't agree with it. There was enough talk of 'People want to hear the most popular songs' versus 'The more involved fans deserve to get some rarities' here.
And there are in fact girls and even guys as well that were attracted to HIM because of Ville's looks first and foremost.
Agreed, these people do exist. But what do you think, how long do they stick around if they don't 'learn to love the music'? I'm sure this could have been a valid point 15 years ago (or 10, if you're in the US), but today? Not so much. Celebrity crushes fade. You either stay a fan because of the music, or you wander off at some point. The number of people getting attracted to HIM because of Ville's looks is fairly small these days, especially with the reduced media attention.
Take a look at the fans at the front of the stage. Mostly women. Although that is changing somewhat.
Right. But people in the front row don't necessarily have to be what you call fangirls.
In addition to that, women are generally more inclined to show emotions like exitement and act accordingly. They are thus more likely to try to get to the front. Of course, there are musicians for whose gigs the ratio of men/women in the front row is much different, but that depends on what kind of music is being played. In the case of HIM, the vast majority of songs deals with love and related topics (or can at least reasonably be interpreted that way) and in our society this is still something that is associated mostly with women.
This is however a complicated topic that goes way beyond what we're discussing and I truly hope I didn't offend anyone with my clumsy wording.
How many videos on YouTube of close ups of Ville?
Well, I haven't seen very many but I can agree with you, there are a lot. You have to consider which people upload these, though. The group of people uploading videos to YouTube is not representative of the group of people going to the gigs. If you only care about the music, you are less likely to record a video. The people uploading videos to YouTube are generally the ones caring about the visuals more than others.
When I say fangirls I don't mean women who are fans of the music and may also find Ville attractive.
Right, this is a question of definition. You only imply what you mean, though.
Still, if we go for your implied definition, my point stands that there aren't that many of them. Definitely not enough to play a role in set list questions.
I mean, look at all these definitions of Ville: [url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ville+valo[/url] ([url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ville+valo[/url]) He's being objectified for the most part.
I only read a couple of them and I think they all claim that he's sexy, a lot of the ones I only took a glace at are indeed over the top. Not exclusively, though. Some are more objective, but I do agree with you, he is being sexualized heavily.
But look at the dates (I checked all of them): Nearly all definitions were submitted in 2004, a couple in '05 and '06 and exactly one in each '08, '09 and '10. Like I already said, this isn't much of an issue anymore.
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The popularity of the band has dwindled because of the lack of new women fans nowadays. They either jumped ship, or they're still along. They were the main demographic.
And Ville doesn't want to vary the setlist because the more amount of songs, the more opportunities to fuck them up. He has a core of songs that he's perfected for the most part. He has a hard time reaching the higher octaves than he used to. The majority of the songs now are the lower octaves. His lower range has grown, while the upper range has dropped.
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then looked at Burton asking 'What happend?' as if it was his fault :D
I was at that gig too, are you sure it's not because one of Burton's keyboard almost fell on the floor?
I don't know what happened to the "old" members of the crew (Sean, Antti and even Janne) but the new ones really suck! (to my opinion)
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The popularity of the band has dwindled because of the lack of new women fans nowadays. They either jumped ship, or they're still along. They were the main demographic.
And Ville doesn't want to vary the setlist because the more amount of songs, the more opportunities to fuck them up. He has a core of songs that he's perfected for the most part. He has a hard time reaching the higher octaves than he used to. The majority of the songs now are the lower octaves. His lower range has grown, while the upper range has dropped.
You make it sound like all woman were to blame for dwindling popularity... Which I hope you didn't mean and which obviously isn't right. Actually, the other way around is more accurate: There are less (new) fans because of decreasing popularity.
Well, I have no idea if that's true or not or what Ville thinks or wants or not. But if I think back to some comments e.g. on Into the Night, those suggest that either you're wrong or Ville didn't pick the songs he sings best or he became a less than decent singer in general :D
then looked at Burton asking 'What happend?' as if it was his fault :D
I was at that gig too, are you sure it's not because one of Burton's keyboard almost fell on the floor?
I don't know what happened to the "old" members of the crew (Sean, Antti and even Janne) but the new ones really suck! (to my opinion)
Oh, that's absolutely possible! I couldn't see much (due to my impressive height of 161cm xD) so I was under the impression he was referring to forgetting the lyrics. But this makes much more sense!
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The popularity of the band has dwindled because of the lack of new women fans nowadays. They either jumped ship, or they're still along. They were the main demographic.
And Ville doesn't want to vary the setlist because the more amount of songs, the more opportunities to fuck them up. He has a core of songs that he's perfected for the most part. He has a hard time reaching the higher octaves than he used to. The majority of the songs now are the lower octaves. His lower range has grown, while the upper range has dropped.
You make it sound like all woman were to blame for dwindling popularity... Which I hope you didn't mean and which obviously isn't right. Actually, the other way around is more accurate: There are less (new) fans because of decreasing popularity.
Well, I have no idea if that's true or not or what Ville thinks or wants or not. But if I think back to some comments e.g. on Into the Night, those suggest that either you're wrong or Ville didn't pick the songs he sings best or he became a less than decent singer in general.
It's a lack of new fans in general.
And Into the Night is falsetto. He still hasn't lost that. The verses though? All lower octaves. Haha
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And Into the Night is falsetto. He still hasn't lost that. The verses though? All lower octaves. Haha
I didn't say he lost his falsetto, I said there are comments that suggest he can't sing anymore.
Let me quote the forum:
"now guys , take off the pink glasses and to be honest, who else noticed that Ville is complete off key and voiceless? Dont consider this as a criticism or bitching, just to be honest if you are not tone deaf you must have heard that he was off key in every fucking song , please note that i am not saying that he was off key the entire song, but in every song he was off key from time to time, that singing thru the nose is very bad habit , now i believe that the weird sounding vocals from reissues live bonus tracks from 2013 and 2014 are auto-tuned in the studio when they were mixing and mastering the live multitrack from the gig"
"yeah, he sounded like ish in vegas. He didn't sound all that better in SD. I even wear earplugs to cut down on the highs. When you're there you don't notice it AS much. But sourced right from the soundboard it's bad"
"I can handle everyone saying Ville is off key nowadays because he is and I can deal with the failed screams but it honestly pisses me off to see anyone on here say that Ville doesn't focus on his singing or isn't trying anymore. [...] If anything the only reason that stuff bothers anyone so much is because you know he is trying for it and failing"
"just between us, they should retire Into The Night or play it pretty lower because Ville cant handle the chorus at all :( its a pitty"
(I didn't include the details because that always takes up quite a bit of space, but I can add them, if you want.)
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Yeah, I don't like how nasally he sounds. That started when when he was drinking heavily, then it stopped when he got sober, and it's back now that he's drinking. I'm pretty sure it contributes to him being off-key. He was off key a lot in 2005-06, and the one show before rehab in 2007.
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He was not drinking this tour - for example in Bratislava he was drinking non alcoholic beer, sounded great though. Well, not great as in 2003 but very very good!!!!!. Even Into the Night was well done!
I mean he wont sing like he used to back in the days, he was great until 2004. Even when he was on cocaine and drunk as fuck, he was great. For example Taubertal 2003 - he was wasted like a fuck but he did a great job.... but now he is good enough - its not a disaster as it was on Helldone 2012 for example.
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And Into the Night is falsetto. He still hasn't lost that. The verses though? All lower octaves. Haha
I didn't say he lost his falsetto, I said there are comments that suggest he can't sing anymore.
Let me quote the forum:
"I can handle everyone saying Ville is off key nowadays because he is and I can deal with the failed screams but it honestly pisses me off to see anyone on here say that Ville doesn't focus on his singing or isn't trying anymore. [...] If anything the only reason that stuff bothers anyone so much is because you know he is trying for it and failing"
While I agree with what you are saying for the most part Kaysa, I still stand by this comment as of when I made it. At that particular period of time this was my honest opinion. I didn't just say so because everyone else was. At the time I felt the stuff I was hearing from them was rather off and that he sounded super tired which is perhaps why the screams sounded failed to me. Kind of like a car with no gas in the tank. But those things aside I didn't say (at least not that I recall, like you said you did shorten some of this to relevance) that he sounded bad, just off or that he couldn't sing anymore. I mostly just thought it sounded like he needed a break. I haven't really listened to much of the recent stuff but as of the time a bit after I had made that post it got better (note I say it got better not that I thought it was "fixed"). And as for the lowering of the verses I completely agree with that.
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I wasn't disagreeing!
Sorry if it came off as if I was. (Actually, I don't even have any opinion on this tbh.)
I didn't mean to accuse anyone of anything, just neutrally quote comments on this. I apologize if I quoted you (or anyone else!) in a way that you feel misrepresents what you were saying.
However, I want to note that yours was the only quote where I left out a part and that was because it wasn't directly relevant to what I was talking about. Apart from that I never said he sounded bad (or that you said he did) - only that (according to comments made by others) he doesn't sing (the songs on the set list) perfectly well. And off key singing counts as 'not perfect' for me, personally.
(By the way, I could claim that I was misquoted myself as the ' :D ' in the end of my reply was replaced with a '.' which takes the humor out of it. And that is changing an important aspect of my comment, namely the tone.)
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the setlist from the last night in Mexico
(thx Anthony Listro for the info):
"buried alive by love"
"rip out the wings of a butterfly"
"right here in my arms"
"the kiss of dawn"
"wicked game"
"passion's killing floor"
"join me in death"
"soul on fire"
"poison girl"
"your sweet six six six"
"the funeral of hearts"
"rebel yell"
encore:
"the sacrament"
"bleed well"
"when love and death embrace"
eww... and today there is a 60 minutes long performance at the Knotfest, so it will be even more boring
after all i am so glad that i had 22 songs in Bratislava and at the Fezen festival this August with songs like Gone with the sin, Heartache every moment, Heartkiller, Scared to Death, Pretending, In Joy and Sorrow and Into the night
they retired all DSBH, Screamworks and ToT songs from the setlist :D
i am afraid that one day they will trim the setlist even more and we will have only BABL, ROTWOAB, WICKED GAME and JOIN ME - being performed 3 times in one gig and as an encore they will do BABL again... :D
the fans dont deserve this attitude from the band and this band definitely dont deserve such a fans as they have. If there was a justice they should see the empty venue on the next gig so they have a time to think about what they are doing wrong.
such a shame ....
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aaaaand here we go again :)
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but you must agree
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omfg this setlist is not worth at all for all my expenses to see them in sao paulo next week... Just retire Soul on Fire again plz .-.
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It baffles me that they're retiring all the SW and TOT songs. I mean... what's the reason behind it?
I'd think as a touring musician you'd want to promote your most recent releases or, if there is nothing you could resonably promote (because it has been ages since the last release), you'd do a nice set of songs from all albums or at least the more recent ones.
So from my perspective it would make sense to either stick mostly to the first four albums (because: re-issues) or include at least a couple of SW and TOT songs. But they're doing... neither?
Does anyone have an explanation for me?
(Btw, for the Sao Paulo peeps: There's apparently a venue change, annouced on heartagram.com.)
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http://mx.coca-cola.fm/es/coca-cola-fm/ (http://mx.coca-cola.fm/es/coca-cola-fm/)
Knotfest broadcast. Someone can record the HIM part?
I'm here on the fest so I can't.
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"We are sorry, this site is not available in your region."
It's not available in the US. It might be only available in Mexico. ???
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the same here, i cant get to the site ...... any ideas?
is it video webcast or radio broadcast?
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Radio broadcast
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Someone tried with tune in or something like that?
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:(
i found some shit on the internet, it says coca cola fm radio mexico but there are just 2 guys talking like 30 minutes now, HIM is already performing according to the Schedule and after these two guys finally stopped talking in spanish there is regular song, not any live ....
so i think i am not on the right broadcast :D
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If I had seen this earlier I would have tried something... Now it's too late...
I hope someone in Mexico has bothered to record this somehow but I don't have high hopes for that.
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i was waiting for this shit for 2 hours, finally found it in Google just typed coca cola fm mexico and played it in some tunein
but the broadcast quality is SHIT , its worse than from cellphone...
the crap that was before HIM was OK soundboard, but what happened when they switched to HIM ?
or is it problem with my sound card or something went wrong on my fucking Windows 10 always updating every hour? I dont know but the quality is like pain in the ass, i am recording this shit in Audacity on stereo mix, but i cant believe that they are streaming such a SHIT it must be some problem on my PC so i hope someone else is recording proper version and is luckier than me
BABL started with the first chorus as there was it in the backround quiet and the hosts were talking, then there was ROTWOAB now RHIMA
i had 2 issues, during BABL there was sudden LOUDNESS for few seconds and the same in the ROTWOAB,.... and not only that but the radio channel is also playing some commercials during the song.... this is the worst broadcast :D Now there is Kiss of Dawn
now Wicked Game, with the one second gap in the first verse....
so far this was broadcasted:
BABL - started with hosts talking they stopped talking when chorus started
ROTWOAB
RHIMA
KISS OF DAWN
WICKED GAME
PASSIONS KILLING FLOOR
JOIN ME - only few seconds then there was some spannish talking or commercials... and it continued after a minute or so...
do you also have that SHIT quality or normal???
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They have to be broadcasting from a cellphone or something, it's terrible here .-.
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so its not me only? FUCK!
i was hoping that that was just some my audio problem on my laptop win 10, but when advertisements during Join Me started they were clear and Great so i knew that they screwed up HIM completely
yeah now they switched to the Craddle of Filth from what i understood and its OK
so HIM completely screwed up + interrupted with their stupid advertisements and talking during the songs :D
Great
happy new bootleg - D quality :D
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This has to be the worst broadcast ever in the history, they play 2 minutes long commercial between songs and quality is worse then my records from last show here LoL
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alright here is the shit as i recorded it with the Audacity , stereo mix
i saved it as a flac
but its not a real flac....... who knows how lousy was that web broadcast from tunein ? maybe 96kbps ? i dont wanna know
its a CRAP, seriously terrible piece of S-H-I-T
if you wanna download, at your own risk.....
D quality or worse, not listenable
http://we.tl/bXobetOJ2G (http://we.tl/bXobetOJ2G)
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I was first like WHAT I HAVE MISSED AGAIN and then like... ??? And HIM hasn't been streamed fully live since the Las Vegas gig last year.
Anyone else noticed that there is audio coming from 2 devices in the Knotfest broadcast? The instruments sound out of sync sometimes because of that. But Ville sings OK :)
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to me it sounds like some delays from the drums sometimes and like some signal issues or something, because you cant really hear anything properly
80% of cellphone recordings sound better than that so i would say this cant be even considered as a soundboard
everything before HIM and after HIM i listened to on that radio broadcast sounded OK, sounboard and it was not even bad, so whether HIM broadcast was screwed on purpose or because of accident....
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I don't know anything about drums or playing instruments or anything like that, but I'm just wondering if maybe the setlist is like that because Jukka is still learning their songs? I mean, he's obviously got Gas' big shoes to fill so maybe they're only doing songs he's perfect with or something? Again, I don't know anything about it, just speculating...
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Yeah that could be one of the reasons, but it might be that Ville just said to him what songs he has to practice. Of course the main set songs and some extra like Bleed Well (this song is a nice add). But HIM's drums are pretty easy so it's not so big job for Kosmo. I mean he IS a very good drummer. (altough he is right handed ;D ;D ;D)
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Kosmo has drums musical school, he is a great drummer, maybe better drummer than Gas ...
and he said that Ville said before he joined the band to learn how to play particular songs... do you think that Ville told him "Kosmo learn how to play In the Nightside of Eden and Our Diabolikal Rapture!" .. ?
no
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I didn't mean it like that. But not everyone can play the songs randomly either.
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Yesterdays setlist was a great improvement deepshadows songs and tears on tape and screamworks
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Yesterdays setlist was a great improvement deepshadows songs and tears on tape and screamworks
You made me want to look it up, here's what I found (source) (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/him/2015/teatro-vorterix-buenos-aires-argentina-43f2db53.html):
HIM Setlist Dec 8 2015 at Teatro Vorterix, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Buried Alive By Love
Poison Girl
The Kiss of Dawn
Pretending
Into the Night
Killing Loneliness
Scared to Death
Your Sweet Six Six Six
Join Me in Death
Bleed Well
In Joy and Sorrow
All Lips Go Blue
The Sacrament
Rip Out the Wings of a Butterfly
Wicked Game
Heartkiller
Heartache Every Moment
Tears on Tape
Right Here in My Arms
The Funeral of Hearts
When Love and Death Embrace
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Rebel Yell
;D That looks pretty good to me, I dunno about y'all. I'd be pretty happy seeing a show like that.
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Check out the vides on YouTube the crowd was crazy, louder that the band
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Yesterdays setlist was a great improvement deepshadows songs and tears on tape and screamworks
;D That looks pretty good to me, I dunno about y'all. I'd be pretty happy seeing a show like that.
i have seen a gig with this setlist + Gone With The Sin in August - 2 nights in a row - it was splendid !
Check out the vides on YouTube the crowd was crazy, louder that the band
why arent you replying on your PMs,... ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZphC-Y5QhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZphC-Y5QhY)
2 video cameras in front one in the very left side of the screen and second in the very right side of the screen :D LOL
i wish these tapers shared their recordings :/
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They played Razorblade Kiss last night in S?o Paulo. How long has it been since they last played it?
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They played it in Helldone last year. If I am right they played it in every show during the Love Metal Archives Tour 2014. Have you got the whole setlist?
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I was there:
00. Random Intro
01. Buried Alive By Love
02. Poison Girl
03. Kiss Of Dawn
04. Pretending
05. Killing Loneliness
06. Your Sweet 666
07. Join Me (In Death)
08. Bleed Well
09. In Joy And Sorrow
10. The Sacrament
11. Butterfly
12. Wicked Game
13. Heartache Every Moment
14. Right Here In My Arms
15. Funeral Of Hearts
16. Razorblade Kiss
17. Soul On Fire
18. When Love And Death Embrace
19. Rebell Yell
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The Suspiria theme intro needs to make a comeback.
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HIM in Notingham was great next up Helsinki, Merry Christmas to all of you.
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HIM Setlist Dec 8 2015 at Teatro Vorterix, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Buried Alive By Love
Poison Girl
The Kiss of Dawn
Pretending
Into the Night
Killing Loneliness
Scared to Death
Your Sweet Six Six Six
Join Me in Death
Bleed Well
In Joy and Sorrow
All Lips Go Blue
The Sacrament
Rip Out the Wings of a Butterfly
Wicked Game
Heartkiller
Heartache Every Moment
Tears on Tape
Right Here in My Arms
The Funeral of Hearts
When Love and Death Embrace
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Rebel Yell
The Nottingham setlist was pretty much identical. I recorded the audio of almost the whole thing on my iPhone so I'll go through that at some point and verify. They played Soul on Fire at some point as well, which was just amazing ;D
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Hello dear People,
One thing appart that came to my mind...
I´m 90% sure that the setlist will not be changed on this Helldone (guessing from the last shows of the band) but if you check last year´s Helldone show´s, the setlist was 95% the same has Nottingham´s set, except "This Fortress of Tears", "Gone with the Sin" and "No Love". I know that I can´t do anything about it but since HIM don´t regularly change the set, I think this would be the first time ever they would have a New Year´s Eve set so similar from one year to another (my guess). Normally they mix things around in Helldone Show´s and hopefully they will do it again.
Please, understand me, I´m not complaining at all (knowing that this subject was discuted by some of you some time ago), it´s always excelent to be a part in HIM´s concerts but this is just a thought that came to my mind and I wanted to share it with you people ;)
Hopefully Danny will have a talk to the guys about this ehehehe! Sorry for taking your time! ;D
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HIM Setlist Dec 8 2015 at Teatro Vorterix, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Buried Alive By Love
Poison Girl
The Kiss of Dawn
Pretending
Into the Night
Killing Loneliness
Scared to Death
Your Sweet Six Six Six
Join Me in Death
Bleed Well
In Joy and Sorrow
All Lips Go Blue
The Sacrament
Rip Out the Wings of a Butterfly
Wicked Game
Heartkiller
Heartache Every Moment
Tears on Tape
Right Here in My Arms
The Funeral of Hearts
When Love and Death Embrace
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Rebel Yell
The Nottingham setlist was pretty much identical. I recorded the audio of almost the whole thing on my iPhone so I'll go through that at some point and verify. They played Soul on Fire at some point as well, which was just amazing ;D
Could you share the audio for us by any change? I mean we don't really have much recordings from this year here.
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Helldone 29-12-15
Buried Alive By Love
Poison Girl
The Kiss of Dawn
Pretending
Into the Night
Killing Loneliness
Your Sweet Six Six Six
Join Me in Death
Bleed Well
In Joy and Sorrow
The Sacrament
Rip Out the Wings of a Butterfly
Wicked Game
Heartkiller
Heartache Every Moment
Right Here in My Arms
The Funeral of Hearts
When Love and Death Embrace
Rebel Yell
Exciting they've managed to cut 2 songs since Nottingham, by New Year's Eve we'll be down to just wicked game 15 times
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awesome and their effort towards the fans is simply incredible :D
people from all around the world went to Helldone (yet there were tickets still available - they did not manage to sell out all 3 nights)
.... and they got this
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HIM Mexico did a live stream from Helldone. They're doing it again Wednesday.
https://www.facebook.com/HIMexicanTeam/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/HIMexicanTeam/?fref=ts)
Some of the videos can be seen here.
https://www.periscope.tv/w/aVLvfzY2Nzg0Mzl8MWRSS1pXUnFOV0FHQi9kjW0gCjh7rPwKMYg3MmAXEzDga3rfNJg7Sktw6xU6 (https://www.periscope.tv/w/aVLvfzY2Nzg0Mzl8MWRSS1pXUnFOV0FHQi9kjW0gCjh7rPwKMYg3MmAXEzDga3rfNJg7Sktw6xU6)
Btw, I just saw this posted on Facebook. I didn't watch it.
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It's only some songs... Sigh...
Nobody will ever record something in its entirety again... lol
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but its a good idea, now every shit toilet has a wifi.... everyone has a smartphone, would be nice if someone just streamed at least audio from his smartphone , it would be illegal but nice :D just saying... xD
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All the set list feelings again...
You guys are such a well of joy xD
Seriously, it's amazing how pessimistic a bunch of people can be.
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I honestly forgot all about Helldone. Not very hard to do these days. I'm hoping the New Year's show gives me at least one song to listen to, though, because I've yet to check out anything since Gas was replaced. Just one song.
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Heartagram Team has also posted a few videos of songs on their Facebook, but all I've watched so far was a clip from BABL which included some superb screaming on Ville's part, so I'm kind of excited to see the rest! No link, sorry, I'm at work and can't get to FB from here.
Also, cheer the f up, y'all! I mean, I kinda get it, you've seen them lots of times and are tired of seeing the same stuff, but as someone who has never had the opportunity to see them live I can tell you I don't think I'd complain about any setlist. I'm just really glad these guys are still around, and hopefully will make some amazing new music for our ears to delight in soon!
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Heartagram Team has also posted a few videos of songs on their Facebook, but all I've watched so far was a clip from BABL which included some superb screaming on Ville's part, so I'm kind of excited to see the rest! No link, sorry, I'm at work and can't get to FB from here.
Also, cheer the f up, y'all! I mean, I kinda get it, you've seen them lots of times and are tired of seeing the same stuff, but as someone who has never had the opportunity to see them live I can tell you I don't think I'd complain about any setlist. I'm just really glad these guys are still around, and hopefully will make some amazing new music for our ears to delight in soon!
That is absolutely fair this setlist is a good one if you haven't seen them before, it's got a nice mix of albums. However Helldone isn't really anyone's first HIM show and the tickets cost a fortune $100/€70 a night. The fans there don't need to hear the same singles year in year out. I didn't complain about Nottingham setlist because it's a standard show but Helldone used to be special.
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Helldone = Mecca of HIM fans, there are fans from all around the world, seriously from Germany, UK, US, Italy, Norway, Slovakia, Mexico, Poland, Russia, Sweden, Netherlands. Tickets are always expensive when compared to regular tour gigs. + these international fans needs to travel to Helsinki = hell of a money on that, they need to sleep somewhere = hell of a money , they need to eat and drink something = money.
For example i got almost 2 hours long performance of 22 songs (including GWTS, All Lips, Scared 2 Death, ToT) at the Fezen festival for 16 € (one day festival ticket was only for 16 €) and i got Lord (amazing hungarian band, legend) before HIM , gas was around 25 € to Szekesfehervar and back home + some beer and hot dog - its still less than just one ticket to Helldone.
Its just so unfair.... For them its a great business but for the fans its not so exclusive to go to Helldone anymore. The last good Helldone that was worth it - both setlist and performance was 2009.
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Same setlist as yesterday minus bleed well, heartkiller and into the night with addition of passions killing floor, Razorblade Kiss and wait for it yes the return of Soul on Fire.
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I believe they don't know how to properly deal with their current situation, they clearly don't know what to play and which songs to rotate between sets, so they are sticking with basic single stuff.
They have others song rehearsed with Kosmo for sure, they only started to consider playing Razorblade Kiss again because the venue in Sao Paulo almost kicked them out because of "running out of time" (long story short) and Ville said "fucked it I'm playing more" and after ending the set (with FOH), he had no idea what to play so they went with Razorblade Kiss (they had never played that song with Kosmo before therefore it's logical to assume they have more stuff) and since we received really fucking well those changes, they considered it for later shows, otherwise they would just cut new material (SW and ToT) and go on, like they were doing in SA's tour.
He seems afraid of playing new stuff or older stuff as you can see in Love's Requiem because it got retired after one performance in US because few people knew the song at all. But after our show in Sao Paulo I can't agree that he is not trying, he is, if it's not enough or he's going to the wrong direction, that's up to debate, but at least I felt that he's trying.
But I have to agree that Helldone should be the place to try new and old stuff for the set and see if it does work out, they should feel comfortable enough to try that in their home, if they are not...
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and today Lemmy tribute Overkill cover ;D
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Gone, but certainly not forgotten:
Stigmata Diaboli, Our Diabolikal Rapture, Salt In Our Wounds, Lose You Tonight, Close To The Flame, Please Don't Let It Go, Beyond Redemption, Sweet Pandemonium, And Love Said No, Vampire Heart, Under The Rose, Behind The Crimson Door, Play Dead, Dead Lovers' Lane, Love, The Hardest Way, and I Will Be The End Of You.
Everyone please have a moment of silence for each of those wonderful songs that each have a minimum of twenty live performances (according to setlist.fm and excluding any covers like Solitary Man). They live on forever in our hearts.
That's not to mention songs with under twenty performances (once again, according to setlist.fm and excluding many other covers) like: The Heartless, The Beginning Of The End, The Path, One Last Time, Beautiful, You Are The One, Endless Dark, Again, Circle Of Fear, and In Love And Lonely.
The point is...well, you know what the point is. All of Buried Alive By Love, Wicked Game, Join Me In Death, Right Here In My Arms, Your Sweet 666, Rip Out The Wings Of A Butterfly, and The Kiss Of Dawn leaves room for many of those songs listed above on any given night, as well as many others that they haven't played in a while and songs to be played for the very first time. Strike the balance between what your newer fans want to hear (and certainly deserve to) and what your veterans would enjoy (because we can't forget about them, or can we? ;)), as well as just breaking up the monotony of essentially the same exact songs show after show, tour after tour, year after year, and everyone should go home happy, or at least not feeling like they just wasted their time and their money on seeing the same performance yet again. When most bands change up their setlist on a nightly basis, both in terms of the songs they play and the order they play them in for the reasons I just stated (or at least drastically change up the setlist from tour to tour so you get a brand new experience each time) and with plenty of songs to choose from, there's just no excuse why this particular band, the one we all love, doesn't do it. Change is good. It keeps things exciting.
It all boils down to feeling like the band is on autopilot. All of the months of downtime over the past several years, leaving fans just waiting around for some sort of news to pop up or for the band to suddenly be active again certainly takes its toll. Then when something finally does happen it all just seems so stagnant still. It shouldn't be that way.
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Same setlist as yesterday again, would I like different songs on the setlist, yes definitely. Is there anywhere else I'd rather be on NYE, no absolutey not. Onnellista uutta vuotta to all of you from Helsinki.
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The point is...well, you know what the point is. All of Buried Alive By Love, Wicked Game, Join Me In Death, Right Here In My Arms, Your Sweet 666, Rip Out The Wings Of A Butterfly, and The Kiss Of Dawn leaves room for many of those songs listed above on any given night, as well as many others that they haven't played in a while and songs to be played for the very first time.
I totally agree with this. I have seen band something like 30 times since 1998 and I have to tell that I am getting totally bored with all the same songs played on every gig. For example those "permanent" cover songs Wicked Game and Rebel Yell should already be replaced with some other choices. If they think they need to play covers I would love to hear Solitary Man for example.
My favourite HIM bootleg is the one they play Love Metal entrely and it would be great if band will again start to get few rarely played songs and add some surprises in the set list.
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for example i loved what blink 182 did few years back when there was a 10th anniversary of self titled album and they had a few gigs and they played the entire album after 10 years - it was a nice effort , of course Tom DeLonge sounded like shit :D but you know what i wanted to say? It would be nice to hear in 2017 the Greatest Lovesongs Vol 666 20th anniversary special when they will play all the songs (altough i cant imagine Dont Fear The Reaper) but the rest would be imaginable - i would love to hear The Beginning of The End live .....
Yeah Hamburg 2003 with the entire Love Metal album was totally awesome
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for example i loved what blink 182 did few years back when there was a 10th anniversary of self titled album and they had a few gigs and they played the entire album after 10 years - it was a nice effort , of course Tom DeLonge sounded like shit :D but you know what i wanted to say? It would be nice to hear in 2017 the Greatest Lovesongs Vol 666 20th anniversary special when they will play all the songs (altough i cant imagine Dont Fear The Reaper) but the rest would be imaginable - i would love to hear The Beginning of The End live .....
Yeah Hamburg 2003 with the entire Love Metal album was totally awesome
I would kill to hear a live version of Don't Fear The Reaper!
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BRING ON THE RECORDINGS NOW! :D
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The last good Helldone that was worth it - both setlist and performance was 2009.
I disagree. 2009 was just meh. Nothing special. The setlist was basically the same as always. But it was cool that we got to hear "Love The Hardest Way and Scared To Death for the first time. And that they brought back Bury Me Deep Inside Your Heart.
For me the best Helldone has will almost forever be 2014. Ville Valo acoustic, Daniel Lioneye live with original line-up and HIM with the Love Metal Archives set-list. Three perfect days for die hard HIM fans. Agree, sucks they didnt change more this year. But keep in mind they have a new drummer. Hopefully next helldone they'll ad some more surprises. We are all fucking tired of the same old song. Thank god for Jukka for making them fresh and interesting. I'm still bummed that Stigmata Diaboli was on the set list for last years helldone and then it was not played :(
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I meant only HIM performance, not the entire Helldone, but yeah the last Helldone with Daniel Lioneye was greatest , with the 69 Eyes too, really
but when it comes to the setlist i think 2009 Helldone setlist was better than the last year´s