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Title: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Jay on January 07, 2010, 07:45:21 PM
LOL....

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=102011385

The positive note, Linde's dreads look amazing!!

Other than that....ugh....
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: stigmata92 on January 07, 2010, 07:50:06 PM
LOL I think their budget was about 5 dollars. I love that the entire vid is ville spinning around in circles with flashes of dead animals. Then halfway in he takes his shirt off. I don't know what they were thinking.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: lastxcallforsin on January 07, 2010, 07:59:26 PM
needs more lasers
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Jay on January 07, 2010, 08:15:07 PM
needs more lasers

I do like that he removes his shirt for absolutely no reason at all....(it doesn't have to make any sense at all....)
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Len777 on January 07, 2010, 08:27:29 PM
i do like the video for some reason only thing i think they couldve done differently was actually having a performance shot of the whole band together besides that i like all the taxidermy animals and stuff. thats probably what it looks like when Ville is writing the songs cause his tower is all decked out in taxidermy owls and such. i like the flashing lights too.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Rasta666 on January 07, 2010, 09:54:16 PM
I like band performances in videos. A lot of my favorite HIM videos are band performances that most of you guys hate (Killing Loneliness, Bleed Well, Buried Alive By Love, Poison Girl).

Likes:
Lighting
Linde's hair flying in that one shot
Ville's expressions (he makes some evil looking expression I havent seen since the Razorblade Romance era)
The model (I think she's beautiful)

Dislikes:
The animals
The lack of the other band members

Overall it's whatever. I don't care much for music videos anyway.


*EDIT*

watched it a second time
pretty much hate it
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Gemma. on January 07, 2010, 10:02:53 PM
I reserve my right to piss and moan like a tart now because I can't see it, on account of my awful British ways.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: stigmata92 on January 07, 2010, 10:09:31 PM
I reserve my right to piss and moan like a tart now because I can't see it, on account of my awful British ways.

Trust me you're not missing out on much.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Rasta666 on January 07, 2010, 10:10:51 PM
I reserve my right to piss and moan like a tart now because I can't see it, on account of my awful British ways.

Trust me you're not missing out on much.

Yeah, if you've seen the screen caps, you've seen the video basically.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Carrie on January 07, 2010, 11:04:24 PM
It's up: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=102011385
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: LonelyRoad on January 07, 2010, 11:33:57 PM
basically...this says it all.

http://www.youtube.com/v/jSJ27TgBvJE&hl


*sigh...
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Daedalus on January 08, 2010, 12:33:01 AM
...i like the red and blue contrasts. That's about it.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: vampireheart616 on January 08, 2010, 02:33:09 AM
if anyone wants it

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RN0RZE5X (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RN0RZE5X) 
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: ameliamarina on January 08, 2010, 02:56:56 AM
thank you so much vampireheart...
cause you see... "the video is unavailable in my country"
WTF??? i hate it when it happens... but from HIM????
whatever...
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Jay on January 08, 2010, 03:05:40 AM
I just want to re-emphasize that Linde's dreads are awesome....
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: ameliamarina on January 08, 2010, 03:07:51 AM
sometimes i wonder how they haven't fallen off his head yet :P TOO LONG!!!! but i like dreads :D
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Jay on January 08, 2010, 03:08:48 AM
Lol, I can't believe how long they've gotten...

Also, are we being too harsh here, or what?  I mean, we're not all going to be happy with whatever they do.  Like, I love Dark Light.  Most of you hate it.  I hate DS&BH, some of you love it.  They can't all be Razorblade Romances...
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: ameliamarina on January 08, 2010, 03:19:12 AM
well... i love everything since Love Metal... every album and every single song (except Don't close your heart)

Dark Light was a failure.... for me! Venus Doom tried to save it but now the new album seems to have finished it (the 3 songs i've heard)

it is not being harsh... it is a matter of taste.
i don't know how long you have been listening to HIM... but people from Europe who know them since their early years are (most of them) quite disappointed by their songs and attitude since Bam came into their lives  :-\
this happens to every europian kinda-underground-band who wants to become famous in america... they change... they keep the looks and they change their sound to something more commercial (and BAD commercial... cause i have no problem with commercial) Look at Nightwish too...

it is not that i don't want to like anything... i try so much and hope that they will make something good!!!! but they don't  :(
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Haddonfield on January 08, 2010, 03:44:45 AM
Nothing can be worse than the Bleed Well video with the annoying little girl dancing next to Ville. Heartkiller's a hundred times better than any video they've done since they signed in the US.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: 616 on January 08, 2010, 05:03:31 AM
Oh my d#&k ,my opinion : this is the worst HIM video ,i am disappointed at all.
i always thought nothing can be worst than the kiss of dawn video,than bleed well came and i said the same thing about bleed well ....now i have seen Heartkiller video and i wanna cry :(

Lindes dreadlocks are pretty awesome,i can´t unterstand how can he sleeps with them :D
Mige in that leather coat looks so great,i mean like rough guy from some mafia movie or something heh

I hate that when is the part of : edit it down to a single word love,and there is that red LOVE word written in the video,it looks so ridiculous ,that blue heartagram at the end is ok,but this LOVE word is really heartkiller
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Spiritual_takeover on January 08, 2010, 05:04:05 AM
It was a pretty cheap effort... The song deserved a better video
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Florianhermanni on January 08, 2010, 06:43:13 AM
hm...alright...from my side I love it

it's art in my eyes...a pity most of you don't seem to like it, but I see your points

I don't like how some again here say European fans don't like how they changed...I'm German and a fan since beginning 2000, I love the new shit coming out now...HIM stands for their variabilty, that's what I love, maybe I'm blessed that things like american production or a maybe commercial video (by the way I don't think that's commercial at all) are no points to dicuss for me...it's HIM in all their range...I LOVE them!

To come back to the video, I'm no friend of comparing things in any situation of life...but if you put it on the plan, I even say it's the best video since LM era and I'm thankful they try new things and not just embrace goth cliches, HIM is not goth or metal, but alright then...I don't wanna argue with anyone, it's a question of taste anyway... ;) :)

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OMG, I'm watching it over and over again...this video is soooo fucking brilliant! I LOVE IT!
There is no video/song of so much symbolism and awesome realization like this one.
Hoping for it to grow on you who are not sure about it yet...
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: vampireheart616 on January 08, 2010, 11:34:06 AM
thank you so much vampireheart...
cause you see... "the video is unavailable in my country"
WTF??? i hate it when it happens... but from HIM????
whatever...

no problem  ;)
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Danny on January 08, 2010, 11:57:12 AM
Oh my d#&k ,my opinion : this is the worst HIM video ,i am disappointed at all.
i always thought nothing can be worst than the kiss of dawn video,than bleed well came and i said the same thing about bleed well ....now i have seen Heartkiller video and i wanna cry :(

Lindes dreadlocks are pretty awesome,i can´t unterstand how can he sleeps with them :D
Mige in that leather coat looks so great,i mean like rough guy from some mafia movie or something heh

I hate that when is the part of : edit it down to a single word love,and there is that red LOVE word written in the video,it looks so ridiculous ,that blue heartagram at the end is ok,but this LOVE word is really heartkiller
Haha, worst HIM video? It beats the hell of the the crappy "wings of a butterfly" and the "and love said no" video.

But, anyways! I think its pretty cool because it is pretty different from what they`ve made before,but i dont like the singing sequences with Ville. It shouldent be close up on his face all the time.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Rasta666 on January 08, 2010, 12:10:57 PM
Lol, I can't believe how long they've gotten...

Also, are we being too harsh here, or what?  I mean, we're not all going to be happy with whatever they do.  Like, I love Dark Light.  Most of you hate it.  I hate DS&BH, some of you love it.  They can't all be Razorblade Romances...

I think we are being too harsh. But it's because we expect this band to give everything they've got. We all know their potential cause we're all huge fans, so it disappoints us when we see not enough effort put into music videos, album titles, etc.

I watched the video a couple times and I've come in full circle. It's not as bad as I initially thought.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Inferno on January 08, 2010, 12:19:56 PM
basically...this says it all.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/jSJ27TgBvJE&hl[/url]


*sigh...



Is it wrong that I actually enjoyed this old ass music video more then the Heartkiller one? I mean seriously, was dead animals and monochrome lights in a dark room all they could come up with? I'm still puzzled how the video is going along with the song.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Rasta666 on January 08, 2010, 12:25:55 PM
Maybe the concept of the video is to kill the hearts of all HIM fans. Destroy all hope.

As Ville says in Heartkiller: It doesn't have to make any sense at all
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Rasta666 on January 08, 2010, 12:42:06 PM
For those who want it:

Heartkiller (AVI Format) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BCNBFNJ7)

Heartkiller (MP4 Format) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L18G7LD8)

The .avi file has better audio quality
karma please
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Florianhermanni on January 08, 2010, 12:57:17 PM
basically...this says it all.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/jSJ27TgBvJE&hl[/url]


*sigh...



Is it wrong that I actually enjoyed this old ass music video more then the Heartkiller one? I mean seriously, was dead animals and monochrome lights in a dark room all they could come up with? I'm still puzzled how the video is going along with the song.


maybe these thoughts help you to step in:

animals die from nature, man dies from heart and soul (all those claws and mad faces she shows is her killing him from his heart) ... it's about relationship, heartkilling...not my own thoughts, credit to a girl from heartagram forum...
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: The Bloody Glove on January 08, 2010, 04:16:03 PM
ahhh I didnt really enjoy it


I wish they chose a different concept

who directed that thing by the way?
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Vpr616 on January 08, 2010, 04:38:22 PM
What that was supposed to mean? Only things I like about this "video" are:
- Linde's dreads :P
- that blue flatline-heartagram thing at the end.

Other than that, it's perhaps The Worst HIM Video To Date.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: stigmata92 on January 08, 2010, 06:18:02 PM
this is one of the worst music vids. TBH though every music vid since Dark Light has been horrible in my opinion.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Gemma. on January 08, 2010, 10:32:33 PM
Song still rocks. video could use less boob. Linde's dread's are awesome.

I like that the video is meant to be based on the work of a Photographer,  and the original Photographs are great conceptually, doesn't really work as a video in IMHO mainly because it's still exactly what it is, a performance video - like every other band walking the face of the planet is capable of, being able to produce originality on every level not just musically is meant to be what makes the difference between a great band and an average band.

You wouldn't spend ten years producing a masterpiece then piss on it before you hung it on the wall would you?
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: LonelyRoad on January 08, 2010, 11:31:49 PM
HelsinkiValo (http://board.heartagram.com/index.php?showuser=68062) posted this over at the heartagram board (i really hate using other forums...gah...not as cool...anyways)

http://www.helmo.fr/projects/said/2/


looks like this could have been the inspiration for the video.

(http://www.helmo.fr/files/gimgs/10_lynx.jpg)

(http://www.helmo.fr/files/gimgs/10_ours.jpg)

(http://www.helmo.fr/files/gimgs/10_zebre.jpg)


doesnt make it ok...but...yeah....the site is in french...so if anyone could translate it...that would be cool...maybe it had a note that would maybe give the band the idea? other than the "cool" imagery...as soon as i seen the video i thought..."this would look cool as a photoshoot...but not a video."

i could def see this with every member of the band having the animal that "represents themselves" like this...but...come on...video? wack.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Rasta666 on January 09, 2010, 12:01:53 AM
So now the video make a little more sense. I can get over it now
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Inferno on January 09, 2010, 03:12:31 AM
the site is in french...so if anyone could translate it...that would be cool...maybe it had a note that would maybe give the band the idea? other than the "cool" imagery...as soon as i seen the video i thought..."this would look cool as a photoshoot...but not a video."


Beasts of fashion, commercial operation at Galeries Lafayette / 2006

13 pictures - portrait mode blue and red portrait pet beds --
take place in the windows of the Galeries Lafayette, Boulevard Hausmann.
A device gelatin colored blue and red on the windows can sometimes see the portrait mode, sometimes the animal portrait. We adapt the device to the monumental scale of the dome of the store. For this installation,
the optical system of colored gelatin is replaced by the projection
lights - red and blue - for the same game visual scale
large images 5 x 8 meters. We design as a reason to dress up the store.

There's also a video HERE (http://www.helmo.fr/videos/bdm_vitrines.mov) which is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: ameliamarina on January 09, 2010, 03:21:02 AM
I don't like how some again here say European fans don't like how they changed...I'm German and a fan since beginning 2000, I love the new shit coming out now...HIM stands for their variabilty, that's what I love, maybe I'm blessed that things like american production or a maybe commercial video (by the way I don't think that's commercial at all) are no points to dicuss for me...it's HIM in all their range...I LOVE them!


well... this is why i said MOST!!!! Most! as it seems to me... as i see from those i know and from those i was talking with in forums...
wow...as i saw this post ruined my karma... it seems that having a different opinion is bad...
whatever!
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: 616 on January 09, 2010, 04:25:50 AM
Oh ,that girl in the first picture of LonelyRoad is so pretty   :o
but i still can´t get the meaning of that video with the Heartkiller song,i just think that video isn´t good for that song.
I have been expecting something different ..
 
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Florianhermanni on January 09, 2010, 07:37:49 AM
I don't like how some again here say European fans don't like how they changed...I'm German and a fan since beginning 2000, I love the new shit coming out now...HIM stands for their variabilty, that's what I love, maybe I'm blessed that things like american production or a maybe commercial video (by the way I don't think that's commercial at all) are no points to dicuss for me...it's HIM in all their range...I LOVE them!


well... this is why i said MOST!!!! Most! as it seems to me... as i see from those i know and from those i was talking with in forums...
wow...as i saw this post ruined my karma... it seems that having a different opinion is bad...
whatever!

not bad to have a different opinion, but needing to mention MOST of European fans don't like the new stuff is kinda poor, doesn't fit a good argument, you can give your opinion, that's fine...I cannot confirm your argument anyway, depends on circle of friends, connections and what people (/opinions) you like to discuss with...

but well I got your point, and it's fine, as I said it's a question of taste
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Rasta666 on January 09, 2010, 12:25:50 PM
Oh ,that girl in the first picture of LonelyRoad is so pretty   :o
but i still can´t get the meaning of that video with the Heartkiller song,i just think that video isn´t good for that song.
I have been expecting something different ..
 

That girl in the first picture is UNBELIEVABLE! So gorgeous.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Luna on January 10, 2010, 07:21:31 PM
Being a fan for over 8 years now, I have never seen such a boreing video,I was dissapointed ,but you know it's about the music not the video,the3 music is what counts here,most will rememeber the music and forget about the video over time anyway.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: jbruton616 on January 10, 2010, 07:47:48 PM
hi am new to this forum but am long term him fan and all i can say is the video dont suit the song the way i saw the the video came across quite dark if the song was darker maybe it would of meshed better, video would have suited a track of greatest love songs but the style should have been a bit more glam or plain generic american styley like the killing loneliness video the second one heart killer seems pretty lame so far
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on January 12, 2010, 02:05:12 AM
First off, I kind of liked it. I could have done without the lasers though. But more than anything, it reminded me of the morphing sequences from Power Rangers, and a scene in Lars Von Trier's new film Antichrist.

Power Rangers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRvyTInM7mA&feature=PlayList&p=6E4F6138456DBC50&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRvyTInM7mA&feature=PlayList&p=6E4F6138456DBC50&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2)

Antichrist: Chaos Reigns!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L2ooG_MX9E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L2ooG_MX9E)
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: synninviemaa66 on January 12, 2010, 02:50:30 AM
At about 2:50 you can see Ville got a new tattoo on his hip next to the naked lady. It's a different style of a heartagram. Pretty cool, it's got a pentagram in it I think.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: shady6670 on January 13, 2010, 04:14:03 AM
As much as I like a good music video, a video at all isn't essential and really isn't worth complaining about. If you don't like it, don't watch it, it is after all just an afterthought after the music. Sentenced, one of the greatest bands ever, had like 5 or 6 videos in their 15 years of being together, none of them were particularly fantastic (Though Ever Frost was pretty fucking great) but they didn't make me like the band any less.

Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Jay on January 13, 2010, 04:20:46 PM
lol, honestly, before watching this one, I can't remember the last time I watched a music video.  I didn't even know there was a Bleed Well video...shows how much I've been paying attention.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Bender Bending R. on January 16, 2010, 09:11:37 AM
too much death animal for my taste
the band or the label doesnt seen to have much interest on doing music videos, this look cheap
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: ameliamarina on January 16, 2010, 10:26:05 AM
As much as I like a good music video, a video at all isn't essential and really isn't worth complaining about. If you don't like it, don't watch it, it is after all just an afterthought after the music. Sentenced, one of the greatest bands ever, had like 5 or 6 videos in their 15 years of being together, none of them were particularly fantastic (Though Ever Frost was pretty fucking great) but they didn't make me like the band any less.



yeah sure... but since it exists i guess we can talk about it a little :P
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: loveslastbreath on January 20, 2010, 08:39:36 PM
anyone else find it hilarious that the animal for mige is a boar?  :D
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Nny on January 23, 2010, 11:09:13 AM
this video sucks..
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Rumskeetskeet on January 24, 2010, 06:30:45 AM
I was overall disappointed by the new Heartkiller video, I was just kinda hoping for a lot more in it.  I mean it seems a little creative with the way they did it, the colors and flashing pictures and whatnot, but it got a little stale just watching Ville stand in front of the camera not moving.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: 0401695 on January 24, 2010, 07:14:17 AM
it's not that bad.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Goetia on January 31, 2010, 11:00:53 AM
I think the idea of the HK video is great...it's just something else...although the song isn't in my top 5 ... :D
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Jerry Lee on January 31, 2010, 11:28:28 AM
Personally I like it, it's cheap and it was made in no time, Ville was talking about how it took longer just to get the song right, but they got the video first try lol.

They were going for the 80's vibe, and they did it.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Bell Orzabalova on July 19, 2010, 07:34:58 AM
Hi everyone, I'm new here :)

I love Valo's looks in Heartkiller^^ especially as he sings 'Lazarus at Frankenstein's' in the first chorus I guess^_^

And another thing about the video - it really resembles one for Tear Garden by IAMX... Not the best point for the director, is it...
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: Zhivago on July 23, 2010, 11:59:24 AM
I've never seen that video before. I had to youtube it.
Title: Re: Please tell me this isn't the Heartkiller video...
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 25, 2010, 08:47:46 PM
Hi everyone, I'm new here :)

I love Valo's looks in Heartkiller^^ especially as he sings 'Lazarus at Frankenstein's' in the first chorus I guess^_^

And another thing about the video - it really resembles one for Tear Garden by IAMX... Not the best point for the director, is it...

Welcome  :)

I like this video also, simple but affective.