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Title: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on November 29, 2009, 11:44:40 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Heartkiller-Album-Version/dp/B002YSN9RC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1259553772&sr=8-1

Not sure what to think yet...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Lujja on November 29, 2009, 11:50:31 PM
Sound... Different...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: six6sixways2love on November 30, 2009, 12:30:13 AM
Very all over the place. It's alot to process in only 30 seconds. VV voice is all of the place, lots of layering, very high production value.

We will see.......dun......dun......dun
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on November 30, 2009, 12:57:13 AM
i like it alot!

it does sound different, but in a refreshing way
fast and punchy, sounds like a cross between razorblade romance and dark light

ive listened to it about 15 times already, dont know if im gonna be able to go to sleep
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on November 30, 2009, 02:54:06 AM
don't like it...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Spiritual_takeover on November 30, 2009, 03:54:56 AM
It sounds like a song for the US market. Not very impressed...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: buddings on November 30, 2009, 05:30:28 AM
yukkk. sounds crap and american. i give up. we're never going to see the old 'him' again.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: lovemetal626 on November 30, 2009, 05:39:23 AM
sounds pretty good to me, reminds me of when i first heard a clip of bleeding well.

lets wait for the whole song. you dont know how the entire song sounds like yet.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on November 30, 2009, 08:37:36 AM
i like it alot!

it does sound different, but in a refreshing way
fast and punchy, sounds like a cross between razorblade romance and dark light

ive listened to it about 15 times already, dont know if im gonna be able to go to sleep


I couldn't agree more. After listening to it about 40 times, It's growing on me. The guitars are actually fairly "crunchy", moreso than most of Dark Light. It's got a very Razorblade Romance vibe going on. Me likes.

Slightly longer clip. The beginning has more guitar work and the end appears to go into a guitar solo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppJkUpuGPmA
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Florianhermanni on November 30, 2009, 09:45:28 AM
OMG!!!!!

This is exactly what I was wanting it to sound like. After these 30 seconds and the description fit to that one article describing the songs of the album, I already know I will like the album alot more than VD and LM which I like very much by the way. But this gives me a RR vibe, catchy and strong; from my side as a European, I don't think it sounds american, or american-market-produced at all. It's strong, catchy from the very moment and FINALLY meldodic and up-tempo like RR., this is HIM again...I'm so excited!!! Longing for more of that stuff!!!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: 0401695 on November 30, 2009, 10:32:26 AM
Sounds fresh and good. Good single choice.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 10:49:26 AM
Ohhh I like this!  :)

I am beyond hyped for this album now.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Florianhermanni on November 30, 2009, 10:54:05 AM
Ohhh I like this!  :)

I am beyond hyped for this album now.

So am I!!! All I can do is pressing replay now, and waiting for the complete song to leak! :D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 10:59:47 AM
Ohhh I like this!  :)

I am beyond hyped for this album now.

So am I!!! All I can do is pressing replay now, and waiting for the complete song to leak! :D

Haha same here.

I am going to be working hard to find a leak for sure.  I did well finding Passion's Killing Floor early last time!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on November 30, 2009, 11:09:25 AM
play count for the 30 second clip on my iTunes is 57
i really hope the single is leaked or released soon!!!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: 0401695 on November 30, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
Friday Finnish ylex will play the song.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on November 30, 2009, 11:50:23 AM
The full single will be aired on Radio Rock, Friday December 4th, 7:30am Finnish time (12:30am US Eastern)
http://www.radiorock.fi/musiikki/keskiyon_ensisoitto.html
they also have the 30 second clip from the youtube video Daedalus posted earlier

You can listen the broadcast online here (http://www.radiorock.fi/player/)
(It might not work in certain browsers)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 12:01:19 PM
The full single will be aired on Radio Rock, Friday December 4th, 7:30am Finnish time (12:30am US Eastern)
[url]http://www.radiorock.fi/musiikki/keskiyon_ensisoitto.html[/url]
they also have the 30 second clip from the youtube video Daedalus posted earlier

You can listen the broadcast online here ([url]http://www.radiorock.fi/player/[/url])
(It might not work in certain browsers)


Great find.

I think this means there is a good chance of a leak before hand, if not then the 4th is pretty damn early anyway  ;D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Florianhermanni on November 30, 2009, 01:12:01 PM
tried to make out the lyrics: not quite sure though

Sparks will fly beneath the lunar rise,
Lazarus' and Frankensteins
Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heartkiller
A lil' we die above the last sunrise
For you I'm open wide
Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heartkiller
Paint all your sorrow for me...


other suggestions?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Filipo Solari on November 30, 2009, 01:27:24 PM
I dont really like the teaser...we lost HIM in 2005...remember? Dark Light, Venus Doom the poor singles and that stuff .
 
This is an american "alternative rock" only for sale million copies to an american people, I wish I would be wrong I hope this single be the "most commercial" song in the album and I hope the rest of the tracks will be better.

 
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: 0401695 on November 30, 2009, 01:34:10 PM
I think this sound little bit like razorblade romance. I love those 30 secs.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on November 30, 2009, 01:39:12 PM
I dont really like the teaser...we lost HIM in 2005...remember? Dark Light, Venus Doom the poor singles and that stuff .
 
This is an american "alternative rock" only for sale million copies to an american people, I wish I would be wrong I hope this single be the "most commercial" song in the album and I hope the rest of the tracks will be better.

 

agree with you, im totally disapointed,, love metal  raz rom , greatest ... which is the best,, i miss those times,, to comercial , broke my heart this 30 sec clip
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Florianhermanni on November 30, 2009, 02:10:38 PM
I dont really like the teaser...we lost HIM in 2005...remember? Dark Light, Venus Doom the poor singles and that stuff .
 
This is an american "alternative rock" only for sale million copies to an american people, I wish I would be wrong I hope this single be the "most commercial" song in the album and I hope the rest of the tracks will be better.

 

agree with you, im totally disapointed,, love metal  raz rom , greatest ... which is the best,, i miss those times,, to comercial , broke my heart this 30 sec clip



hm :-\
I think this is a compromize between RR and LM, and exactly my wish for this album, but sppreciations seem different
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on November 30, 2009, 02:24:04 PM
tried to make out the lyrics: not quite sure though

Sparks will fly beneath the lunar rise,
Lazarus' and Frankensteins
Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heartkiller
A lil' we die above the last sunrise
For you I'm open wide
Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heartkiller
Paint all your sorrow for me...


other suggestions?

i think the "A lil' we die" doesnt sound right
i wanna say it's "will we die", but that doesnt make any sense

I think this sound little bit like razorblade romance. I love those 30 secs.

agreed
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: lovemetal626 on November 30, 2009, 02:44:56 PM
too "american", "commercial alternative sound"

uhh give me a break.


this sounds like RR, that album was poppy as heck, but its one of the all time favorites,  heck its one of mine as well.

theres no pleasing some ppl  :-\
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: eairthrow on November 30, 2009, 02:49:58 PM
For me it's not only music. I like to see the man behind the songs. And they are representing how they feel nowdays. I know this is the same old story but everybody need a change. I'm happy about this energetic new stuff. And hey, we are not in '97 anymore. Thank God they are always making something fresh for us. Just be a bit open minded and everything will be cool. :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on November 30, 2009, 02:53:39 PM
If they did nothing but release album after album that sounded just like GLS, people would be pissed at that too.
Like I, and many, have said...this sounds like a Razorblade Romance song, and no HIM fan can argue against that. People are complaining about how commercial Heartkiller sounds,  but have you listened to anything off RR lately? Hell, any of the singles off DSBH are poppy too.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on November 30, 2009, 02:54:16 PM
this sounds like RR, that album was poppy as heck, but its one of the all time favorites,  heck its one of mine as well.

theres no pleasing some ppl  :-\

preach brother. razorblade romance had songs that were really poppy like Right Here in My Arms and Death Is In Love With Us
you could argue that they were goth-pop, but they still were upbeat and had a feel-good type of vibe

besides, Pop is derived from the phrase 'Popular music'
there is nothing wrong with a band being popular
thats actually the goal
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on November 30, 2009, 02:56:06 PM
besides, Pop is derived from the phrase 'Popular music'
there is nothing wrong with a band being popular
thats actually the goal

Damn skippy.  :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 02:56:20 PM
Don't we get the "too poppy/emo" criticism everytime the first teaser from a new HIM album comes out?

I remember hearing it year after year.  But to be honest all of the albums sound like HIM...and nothing else, if you don't like that then what on Earth ARE you looking for?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Florianhermanni on November 30, 2009, 03:05:28 PM
For me it's not only music. I like to see the man behind the songs. And they are representing how they feel nowdays. I know this is the same old story but everybody need a change. I'm happy about this energetic new stuff. And hey, we are not in '97 anymore. Thank God they are always making something fresh for us. Just be a bit open minded and everything will be cool. :)

exactly what I'm thinking :)
no one needs any album twice, but I can understand that lovers from the past are disappointed if they cannot adapt to sth new, pity for them, but that's not what I long for, I neither define music by its commercial aspects, nor by its heaviness like some fellows (don't mean anyone specifically) - everyone's choice to like it or not
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: poetry.in.flesh on November 30, 2009, 03:08:03 PM
I like this song but, then again, theres not been any one song or album by HIM i havent liked yet. I so hope this album will be the one where they get really popular, like with greenday 'american idiot'. I say if they are underground keep them their but if they are gonna be exposed to mainstream might as well give them a good parade
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 03:11:16 PM
For me it's not only music. I like to see the man behind the songs. And they are representing how they feel nowdays. I know this is the same old story but everybody need a change. I'm happy about this energetic new stuff. And hey, we are not in '97 anymore. Thank God they are always making something fresh for us. Just be a bit open minded and everything will be cool. :)

exactly what I'm thinking :)
no one needs any album twice, but I can understand that lovers from the past are disappointed if they cannot adapt to sth new, pity for them, but that's not what I long for, I neither define music by its commercial aspects, nor by its heaviness like some fellows (don't mean anyone specifically) - everyone's choice to like it or not

Totally agree with you both.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Vpr616 on November 30, 2009, 04:30:15 PM
I have mixed feelings about it... It's very catchy and definately sounds like HIM, but the sound is very... american... And the "laaast sunriiise" part is pretty annoying, sounds bit like random pop band. You just can hear that mr. Squire worked only with some sh*tty american bands before.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Morningrise on November 30, 2009, 04:37:56 PM
That was awful. WTF?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 04:39:04 PM
That was awful. WTF?

Good indepth and insightful analysis, that's what we like to see  :D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Morningrise on November 30, 2009, 04:46:46 PM
Alright, fine. You asked...

That song is in no way reminiscent of Razorblade Romance. Sure, RR was poppy, but with an 80s charm. It was a rock album, similar to the likes of the Scorpions or Bon Jovi. I don't hear any rock in this track. It's straight up pop. I hate when people use the Fall Out Boy card, but this actually does sound like Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, or Paramore. It's atrocious and a disservice to HIM fans everywhere.

They're selling out to make money and break a market they couldn't before and you guys are congratulating them...

I've been a fan since Razorblade Romance was released and I honestly can't believe what I'm hearing, especially after the semi-return to form that was Venus Doom.

e. And to address those of you who claim to like everything they do, no matter what. You aren't a bigger fan for it. Those of us who critique their work have standards. We aren't blind followers. HIM, just like every other band in the world, are capable of making bad music. Get over yourselves.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 05:00:01 PM
Alright, fine. You asked...

That song is in no way reminiscent of Razorblade Romance. Sure, RR was poppy, but with an 80s charm. It was a rock album, similar to the likes of the Scorpions or Bon Jovi. I don't hear any rock in this track. It's straight up pop. I hate when people use the Fall Out Boy card, but this actually does sound like Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, or Paramore. It's atrocious and a disservice to HIM fans everywhere.

They're selling out to make money and break a market they couldn't before and you guys are congratulating them...

I've been a fan since Razorblade Romance was released and I honestly can't believe what I'm hearing, especially after the semi-return to form that was Venus Doom.

Much better.

...But it's a 30 second clip of a 13 track album....keep the faith and relax.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Morningrise on November 30, 2009, 05:08:51 PM
Much better.

...But it's a 30 second clip of a 13 track album....keep the faith and relax.

It was 30 seconds more than I can stomach of that particular style of music. I'll undoubtedly listen to the whole thing once it leaks, but with the information at hand, it looks like this is shaping up to be their worst release to date.

I'm sure there are many others out there who share my sentiments. There's got to be.

e. I'm just as much of a fan as any of you are. I even have a HIM related tattoo. I know my remarks may come off as a bit strong to some of you, but I'm just that disappointed. I can't help but feel like the guys are capable of so much more.

Perhaps I'm just growing out of HIM. I started listening to them when I was 14 years old and I'm turning 23 in January. I still listen to RR and Deep Shadows though and love those albums to death, so I don't really think that's the case.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on November 30, 2009, 05:33:22 PM
you know i have to agree with morningrise on this. Assuming that the rest of the album sounds like this, I believe it can take Dark Light's place as the shittiest HIM album. I thought Dark Light was commercial, this takes it to a whole new level. I hope to god that the rest of the cd doesn't sound like this, but with Matt Squire producing it what can we expect.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Thanatos on November 30, 2009, 06:06:45 PM
pretty alternative i dont like it ....   since him enter the us popular rock... its losing more and more points ....
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 06:12:52 PM
Much better.

...But it's a 30 second clip of a 13 track album....keep the faith and relax.

It was 30 seconds more than I can stomach of that particular style of music. I'll undoubtedly listen to the whole thing once it leaks, but with the information at hand, it looks like this is shaping up to be their worst release to date.

I'm sure there are many others out there who share my sentiments. There's got to be.

e. I'm just as much of a fan as any of you are. I even have a HIM related tattoo. I know my remarks may come off as a bit strong to some of you, but I'm just that disappointed. I can't help but feel like the guys are capable of so much more.

Perhaps I'm just growing out of HIM. I started listening to them when I was 14 years old and I'm turning 23 in January. I still listen to RR and Deep Shadows though and love those albums to death, so I don't really think that's the case.

Hey man, I'm not knocking you at all, calm it.  I respect your opinion.  I just wanted to know the reasons behind how you felt.  It's all good.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on November 30, 2009, 06:20:06 PM
i like it alot trying new things is always good ;)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 06:23:08 PM
i like it alot trying new things is always good ;)

For sure, its more beneficial artistically to push yourselves and adapt the way in which you write with other influences and ideas.  This is one of the reasons I will always respect what HIM release.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on November 30, 2009, 06:26:41 PM
i also love his voice in this song i think being sober has really helped his voice. and it's upbeat!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Weemo on November 30, 2009, 06:30:24 PM
I think listeners need to remember this is a 30 second clip of a song used as a single - single choices are generally the most mainstream songs from albums.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 06:32:01 PM
i also love his voice in this song i think being sober has really helped his voice. and it's upbeat!

Yeah, I like the layers they have added to his voice.  I think on Venus Doom, his voice sounded a bit flat.  This seems to have more punch to it.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 06:33:24 PM
I think listeners need to remember this is a 30 second clip of a song used as a single - single choices are generally the most mainstream songs from albums.

Totally, there is so much more of this album to come.

From what Metal Hammer said, it is quite different in areas so we can't truly assess it until Screamworks is out.

Hearing Heartkiller in full will give us a little bit of an indication I guess.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Alex on November 30, 2009, 07:01:09 PM
well this is one of the 3-4 most poppy's tracks in album (how metal hammer said) and i like it.... its fast, its melodic, its cool...  yeah first time i heard i said - simply american rocky poppy track... but after a few listens i like it very much... its HIM in very poppy commercial way... and so what? they have never done that before?  :D they are do it again... and do it in better way then before...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: buddings on November 30, 2009, 08:07:29 PM
Alright, fine. You asked...

That song is in no way reminiscent of Razorblade Romance. Sure, RR was poppy, but with an 80s charm. It was a rock album, similar to the likes of the Scorpions or Bon Jovi. I don't hear any rock in this track. It's straight up pop. I hate when people use the Fall Out Boy card, but this actually does sound like Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, or Paramore. It's atrocious and a disservice to HIM fans everywhere.

They're selling out to make money and break a market they couldn't before and you guys are congratulating them...

I've been a fan since Razorblade Romance was released and I honestly can't believe what I'm hearing, especially after the semi-return to form that was Venus Doom.

e. And to address those of you who claim to like everything they do, no matter what. You aren't a bigger fan for it. Those of us who critique their work have standards. We aren't blind followers. HIM, just like every other band in the world, are capable of making bad music. Get over yourselves.

in same boat and feel the same way.
razorblade romance was poppy yes, but it wasn't americanized pop made for the mass market.
and where did the american accent come from!? :-[

i want to like the new stuff so badly! but have not liked anything since love metal, besides a few songs (namely 'in the nightside of eden').

i suppose i will always have the first four albums, and nothing can change that. :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 08:12:11 PM
I'm looking forward to this future of HIM, is exciting times to be a fan.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on November 30, 2009, 08:12:57 PM
After listening to the sample it sure does grow on you, and I admit I probably judged the album unfairly. Just when people compare this to RR I realize they have no clue what they're talking about cuz this sounds nothing like that cd.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 08:19:43 PM
After listening to the sample it sure does grow on you, and I admit I probably judged the album unfairly. Just when people compare this to RR I realize they have no clue what they're talking about cuz this sounds nothing like that cd.

I don't know if it is intentional by the band or not but none of the albums sound alike yet all have the HIM signature feel.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Eric616 on November 30, 2009, 08:37:06 PM
i like it alot trying new things is always good ;)
This isn't new, it's Dark Light on steroids.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Weemo on November 30, 2009, 08:39:22 PM
Well the lyrics are still signature Valo, but I'd argue they have matured into something closer to poetry (compare Beginning of the End to Heartkiller's sample). Dark Light was very Americanized, but I think Venus Doom was a departure from that. Even the singles were far too slow and meloncholic to really grab mass appeal save Bleed Well. Anyways, I'm just saying that judgement of an album upon one song is jumping the gun, and that getting upset that a single is catchy and "American" is also silly given the nature of single releases.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on November 30, 2009, 08:48:24 PM
After listening to the sample it sure does grow on you, and I admit I probably judged the album unfairly. Just when people compare this to RR I realize they have no clue what they're talking about cuz this sounds nothing like that cd.

I don't know if it is intentional by the band or not but none of the albums sound alike yet all have the HIM signature feel.

Yeah but this one more so sounds the strangest out of the bunch because villes voice has too many layers making the whole thing sound like a mess. Like i said before I jumped the gun on basing that the cd will suck on a low quality amazon clip. I believe that this cd can be good but feel that it got too americanized because of matt squire.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on November 30, 2009, 08:54:34 PM
After listening to the sample it sure does grow on you, and I admit I probably judged the album unfairly. Just when people compare this to RR I realize they have no clue what they're talking about cuz this sounds nothing like that cd.

I don't know if it is intentional by the band or not but none of the albums sound alike yet all have the HIM signature feel.

Yeah but this one more so sounds the strangest out of the bunch because villes voice has too many layers making the whole thing sound like a mess. Like i said before I jumped the gun on basing that the cd will suck on a low quality amazon clip. I believe that this cd can be good but feel that it got too americanized because of matt squire.

That's cool, I understand.

I think the layering adds depth to his voice.  But again I am jumping the gun by judging it as being great and others are jumping the gun by saying its bad.  It's a taster and a simple clip to have something to think about.  Opinions will be different by the time Screamworks is upon us.

But I guess speaking about it is why we are all here eh? :D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on November 30, 2009, 09:13:53 PM
i like it alot trying new things is always good ;)
This isn't new, it's Dark Light on steroids.


that's your opinion. Fact, dark light had really watered down guitars. Heartkiller doesn't. yes it's poppy but i like it and it does sound different having said that still sounds like my favorite band. ps the songwriting  on DL was great tim palmer fucked that album during the mixing process.

edit hey guys and gals check out this sample click the red button
http://www.radiorock.fi/musiikki/keskiyon_ensisoitto.html
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Filipo Solari on November 30, 2009, 09:39:33 PM
I dont really like the teaser...we lost HIM in 2005...remember? Dark Light, Venus Doom the poor singles and that stuff .
 
This is an american "alternative rock" only for sale million copies to an american people, I wish I would be wrong I hope this single be the "most commercial" song in the album and I hope the rest of the tracks will be better.

 

agree with you, im totally disapointed,, love metal  raz rom , greatest ... which is the best,, i miss those times,, to comercial , broke my heart this 30 sec clip



hm :-\
I think this is a compromize between RR and LM, and exactly my wish for this album, but sppreciations seem different

Yep pretty diferent...mmm its like when your all time girlfriend left you, and she began wear sexual clothes to grab the sights of all those rich people then she sales her body to these rich people haha just kidding...

We're waiting for a good album indeed  :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Gemma. on November 30, 2009, 09:58:36 PM
it's mean, I likes it. and I don't say that often.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on November 30, 2009, 10:04:36 PM
i like it alot trying new things is always good ;)
This isn't new, it's Dark Light on steroids.


that's your opinion. Fact, dark light had really watered down guitars. Heartkiller doesn't. yes it's poppy but i like it and it does sound different having said that still sounds like my favorite band. ps the songwriting  on DL was great tim palmer fucked that album during the mixing process.

edit hey guys and gals check out this sample click the red button
[url]http://www.radiorock.fi/musiikki/keskiyon_ensisoitto.html[/url]


I don't see any sample on that site. Where is it?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Eric616 on November 30, 2009, 10:13:19 PM
That red thing. haha Just click it and it'll play.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on November 30, 2009, 10:13:54 PM
oh haha for some reason it wasn't showing up, i got it now thnx.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Eric616 on November 30, 2009, 10:15:54 PM
i like it alot trying new things is always good ;)
This isn't new, it's Dark Light on steroids.


that's your opinion. Fact, dark light had really watered down guitars. Heartkiller doesn't. yes it's poppy but i like it and it does sound different having said that still sounds like my favorite band. ps the songwriting  on DL was great tim palmer fucked that album during the mixing process.

edit hey guys and gals check out this sample click the red button
[url]http://www.radiorock.fi/musiikki/keskiyon_ensisoitto.html[/url]
The guitar IS watered down. Listen to the palm mutes, then listen to the palm mutes on Dark Light and Venus Doom. I think you know which one it sounds like.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: lovemetal626 on November 30, 2009, 10:24:18 PM
im pretty sure when this album comes out, its going to surprise us all.


near the end of that sample it sounds like it goes into a very HIM style solo with guitars and keyboards.


just wait for tomorrow or whenever its suppose to come out.

then we can continue this discussion.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on November 30, 2009, 11:24:05 PM
i like it alot trying new things is always good ;)
This isn't new, it's Dark Light on steroids.


that's your opinion. Fact, dark light had really watered down guitars. Heartkiller doesn't. yes it's poppy but i like it and it does sound different having said that still sounds like my favorite band. ps the songwriting  on DL was great tim palmer fucked that album during the mixing process.

edit hey guys and gals check out this sample click the red button
[url]http://www.radiorock.fi/musiikki/keskiyon_ensisoitto.html[/url]
The guitar IS watered down. Listen to the palm mutes, then listen to the palm mutes on Dark Light and Venus Doom. I think you know which one it sounds like.


The Guitar is not super compressed like on dark light. there is always a little compression now a days, dark light had way more than this song. and palm muting has nothing to do with the guitar being watered down. i was talking about the compression which is a tool they use in the studio which completely squashes the audio wav. the drums on dl were also too compressed, for my taste that is.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Carrie on December 01, 2009, 12:32:00 AM
I have to admit I am kind of digging on it. It's only 30 seconds, but the cheese factor seems pretty high. LOL
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jay on December 01, 2009, 01:10:12 AM
I know I haven't been very active here, but when did Ville join the The All American Rejects?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 01, 2009, 01:17:48 AM
I know I haven't been very active here, but when did Ville join the The All American Rejects?

lol guess your not diggin it too much jay?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Carrie on December 01, 2009, 01:20:06 AM
I know I haven't been very active here, but when did Ville join the The All American Rejects?

HAHAHHA Jay let's have mass babies! I think you almost made my yummy chicken flauta come out of my nostrils!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jay on December 01, 2009, 01:22:43 AM
I didn't like it the first time I played it.  I keep waiting for that song that makes me jizz instantly.  Under the Rose came really close, though (no pun intended.) 

Sorry Carrie, you probably didn't want to hear about jizz while eating a chicken flauta.  One must never waste such tastiness. 
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Carrie on December 01, 2009, 01:26:39 AM
Jay dude i am not even gonna comment about jizz with chicken...omg dipping sauce *shuts up* Yeah back to the uhhh music....

So when I listened to it the first time, my first reaction was hysterical laughter and giddiness...complete with office chair bounciness and a insane smile. And then the first 10 seconds were over and I listened. It reminds me and a few other people I've shown it to of Razorblade Romance type sounds. Which is cool. Then again I am serious I think the song sounds hella cheesey (but I like cheese...not fromundah...just HAD to say). Anyway so yeah that is my full thought about it for the moment. I have only listened like 5 times. I want to wait for the whole album, actually buy it and then bitch.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 01, 2009, 01:33:22 AM
haha i love how talking about heartkiller turned into a convo about jizz and frumunda chzz way to stay on topic peeps lol i think that once we hear it in it's entirety there wil be plenty of jizz to go round ;) at least from me  :D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jay on December 01, 2009, 01:37:18 AM
I seem to infect people with jizz.  I mean, wait...uhh, yeah, Heartkiller is perfectly good American pop shit.  I've never heard HIM on my local stations except once or twice when they played Join Me (in 2007, no less).  Now, I believe/fear that I'll turn on the pop station here and it'll be in heavy rotation along side Blacked Eyed Peas.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Carrie on December 01, 2009, 01:44:43 AM
Yeah the next mega show w/ HIM, Lady Gaga and Black Eyed Peas. I am so there. With a Jizz umbrelly! lol
BTW hi Leners!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 01, 2009, 01:47:06 AM
HOla greetings from new jersey ;) btw i want the both of you to check out my new tunes i'll send ya a link if youre interested
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Carrie on December 01, 2009, 01:49:12 AM
You haz PM (w/ no jizz additives) OMG make me stop!

So I notice a lot of fans have been trying to make youtube video's of the 30 second clip and they get taken down within minutes. Kinda funny.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 01, 2009, 01:58:16 AM
yeah that is funny until someone gets the whole song and we don't get to hear it cause they keep takin them down lol
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Carrie on December 01, 2009, 02:04:43 AM
Len: True...but you know this forum is full of ninja's *winks*
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 01, 2009, 02:05:46 AM
haha teach me miss miagi ;)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: vampireheart616 on December 01, 2009, 03:00:33 AM
The full single will be aired on Radio Rock, Friday December 4th, 7:30am Finnish time (12:30am US Eastern)
[url]http://www.radiorock.fi/musiikki/keskiyon_ensisoitto.html[/url]
they also have the 30 second clip from the youtube video Daedalus posted earlier

You can listen the broadcast online here ([url]http://www.radiorock.fi/player/[/url])
(It might not work in certain browsers)


any way you can record/rip it for us when it's played?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Carrie on December 01, 2009, 03:37:20 AM
haha teach me miss miagi ;)

LOL I could but then I would have to kill ya. Oh wait I don't kill...I just maim.

Yay for the song being played I don't think I will be up when it's playing though or I would try. LOL
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: vtioldlde on December 01, 2009, 04:31:21 AM
Sounds like a step backwards from venus doom :-\
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Errin on December 01, 2009, 08:07:26 AM
I like it,
Hard to judge from only 30 seconds obv.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on December 01, 2009, 12:07:35 PM
Sounds like a step backwards from venus doom :-\

I think it sounds like the idea sound to compliment Venus Doom, but I can see that if you really liked the gritty, doomy sound of VD that you might consider this not quitye as good.

But again, there's a whole album to come.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Carrie on December 01, 2009, 01:11:47 PM
I just want the damn album already...been listening to DS&BH lately too much lol
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: LonelyRoad on December 01, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
i love these times...when a new album is on its way....and the board is uber active...

i def like when a topic gets posted and therse already 6 pages of good posts in like 8 hours...its awesome.

someone go whore the site out...get new members...people who need a good forum!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jerry Lee on December 01, 2009, 02:13:22 PM
lol it's the only time the board gets any activity.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 01, 2009, 05:12:21 PM
This happens every time we get a taste of a new album, people saying they don't like it and make comments like "it's too Americanized" or "I wanna blow my brains out". This happened for VD and previous albums. Once we all heard the full album everyone changed their opinions. It's rather comical.

A few things to keep in mind:
It's only a 30 second clip from 1 song out of 13 on the album.
The clip is of the chorus which is supposed to be the "catchy" part of the song so of course it might sound Americanized/Industrialized or whatever the hell you wanna call it, but don't go judging the whole song until you hear it in it's entirety.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: koohai on December 01, 2009, 05:22:34 PM
This happens every time we get a taste of a new album, people saying they don't like it and make comments like "it's too Americanized" or "I wanna blow my brains out". This happened for VD and previous albums. Once we all heard the full album everyone changed their opinions. It's rather comical.

A few things to keep in mind:
It's only a 30 second clip from 1 song out of 13 on the album.
The clip is of the chorus which is supposed to be the "catchy" part of the song so of course it might sound Americanized/Industrialized or whatever the hell you wanna call it, but don't go judging the whole song until you hear it in it's entirety.

Nicely put, I totally agree with you. Can't wait for a decent leak!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 01, 2009, 05:34:17 PM
once we get a leak will we be able to post links?

or just point people in the right direction?  ;)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 01, 2009, 05:38:02 PM
You can post links. Preferably in the media section where only members with enough post count can go.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 01, 2009, 05:39:47 PM
Is anyone gonna be recording it on friday? Because if no one is ill be able to do it.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 01, 2009, 05:45:57 PM
I wouldn't depend on just one person to record it. I'd rather have 10 people record it than just 1 and have something go wrong cause then we're left with nothing.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 01, 2009, 06:12:27 PM
well i wont record it but spread the word on FB, twitter, myspace
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Florianhermanni on December 01, 2009, 06:50:53 PM
on heartagram you get a bit more of the song now via the player starting in the background
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 01, 2009, 06:52:57 PM
yeah i heard the little beginning, i don't know the lyrics seem forced and don't seem to flow well, but its still catchy as hell.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on December 01, 2009, 07:01:05 PM
I like it even more, upon hearing the Heartagram clip. Can't wait till Thursday night!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Eric616 on December 01, 2009, 08:26:48 PM
Sounds like shit. Dark Light Vol.2 here we come!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: The Bloody Glove on December 01, 2009, 08:45:07 PM
WOW all you haters r retarded!!!!

 :P
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on December 01, 2009, 09:10:46 PM
i love these times...when a new album is on its way....and the board is uber active...

i def like when a topic gets posted and therse already 6 pages of good posts in like 8 hours...its awesome.

someone go whore the site out...get new members...people who need a good forum!


Totally, maybe I should sort that Facebook thing out!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jay on December 01, 2009, 09:27:12 PM
Alright, the heartagram clip makes it a lot better.  I can hear our boys in there... :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 01, 2009, 09:33:42 PM
Alright, the heartagram clip makes it a lot better.  I can hear our boys in there... :)

sounds like what i've been waiting for, for a longg time im so happy right now!! i think matt squire deserves a round of drinks and a gold metal just for that single he really brought out what makes the msound good!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Eric616 on December 01, 2009, 09:36:22 PM
WOW all you haters r retarded!!!!

 :P
I bet your favorite album is Dark Light....and if you're going to call someone retarded, spell out are.

shh.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 01, 2009, 09:53:50 PM
WOW all you haters r retarded!!!!

 :P
I bet your favorite album is Dark Light....and if you're going to call someone retarded, spell out are.

you both need to chill you both have opinions you're allowed to we don't need people arguing back and forth on here it's not productive. chill budddddddddddyyyy(yes i watched son in law last night...hah)
ps eric listen to the sample and listen to any song off dark light they sound nothing alike production wise.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Eric616 on December 01, 2009, 09:56:59 PM
I'm cool, calm and collected. Having an opinion doesn't make me a hater, just unbiased. It's not filled with overbearing keyboards. That's the difference. The guitar, drums and bass sound the same.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 01, 2009, 10:41:51 PM
to me the guitars,bass,and drums don't sound as compressed as on dark light they sound punchy as hell which i like actually going back and fourth comparing it to love metal stuff it sounds more punchier that lm even. the thing i like the more i listen to it is you can hear the bass really well thats where i thought the lacked on a lot of albums you can hear mige riffing around in certain parts i think it's a pretty good mix they got there.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 01, 2009, 11:50:45 PM
Lyrics that I've gathered so far:

Clip 1:
Sparks will fly beneath the lunar rise,
Lazarus' and Frankensteins
Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heartkiller
A lil' we die above the last sunrise
For you I'm open wide
Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heartkiller

Clip 2:
Sparks will fly beneath the lunar rise,
Lazarus' and Frankensteins
Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heartkiller
A lil' we die above the last sunrise
For you I'm open wide
Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heartkiller

Paint all your sorrow for me...

Clip 3:
Oh I've done everything I have learned
That every ??? to a single word
Love
You have waited, anticipated

Sparks will fly beneath the lunar rise,
Lazarus' and Frankensteins
Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heartkiller
Heartkiller
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Weemo on December 02, 2009, 12:22:11 AM
I'll write down everything I have learned,
And narrow it down to a single word -
"Love," for you I'm waiting, anticipatin'

Sparks will fly, beneath the lunar lies.
Lazarus and Frankenstein's
Babe I'll be a, flat-liner for a, heartkiller.
Will we die, above the last sunrise?
For you I'm open wide.
Babe I'll be a, flat-liner for a, heartkiller

I dunno, some of his pronunciations are a bit ambiguous and mumbled.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 02, 2009, 02:23:06 AM
I'll write down everything I have learned,
And narrow it down to a single word -
"Love," for you I'm waiting, anticipatin'

Sparks will fly, beneath the lunar lies.
Lazarus and Frankenstein's
Babe I'll be a, flat-liner for a, heartkiller.
Will we die, above the last sunrise?
For you I'm open wide.
Babe I'll be a, flat-liner for a, heartkiller

I dunno, some of his pronunciations are a bit ambiguous and mumbled.

I was just about to fix it myself =P Quicker than me i guess lol.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: LonelyRoad on December 02, 2009, 03:21:05 AM
when he says "flatliner for a heartkiller...."

terrible.


fucking america blew his "r"s...awful.


so far....C-

def. american pop.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 02, 2009, 04:19:08 AM
when he says "flatliner for a heartkiller...."

terrible.


fucking america blew his "r"s...awful.


so far....C-

def. american pop.


Blame who you wanna blame, but at the end of the day it's still Ville who is writing and singing the lyrics, not someone else.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Nasville on December 02, 2009, 04:42:29 AM
I'll write down everything I have learned,
And narrow it down to a single word -
"Love," for you I'm waiting, anticipatin'

Sparks will fly, beneath the lunar lies.
Lazarus and Frankenstein's
Babe I'll be a, flat-liner for a, heartkiller.
Will we die, above the last sunrise?
For you I'm open wide.
Babe I'll be a, flat-liner for a, heartkiller

good work man
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Eric616 on December 02, 2009, 05:05:07 AM
'll write down everything I have learned, and edit it down to a single word. Love, for you I've waited and dissipated. Sparks will fly, beneath the lunar rise. Lazarus and Frankensteins. Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heart killer, heart killer. Sparks will fly, beneath the lunar rise. Lazarus and Frankenstiens. Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heart killer. Will we die, upon the last sunrise? For you I'm open wide. Babe, I'll be a flatliner for a heart killer. Paint all your sorrow for to see...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: lovemetal626 on December 02, 2009, 06:08:12 AM
OMG the new sound clip is amazing.

this song sounds amazing.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: 0401695 on December 02, 2009, 10:46:45 AM
I love this new stuff.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jay on December 02, 2009, 01:08:42 PM
I've to admit, it's catchy.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on December 02, 2009, 01:10:44 PM
It's extremely catchy. The hook stays in your head all day.

Very excited for the release of the whole song. Next Tuesday!!!!!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 02, 2009, 01:17:19 PM
i wish it were today it's driving me insane i wanna hear if there's a solo in there :-[
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 02, 2009, 02:01:51 PM
If it's played friday on the Finnish radio i could rip if no one else  would... The Finland hour it's the same with my country , so it'll be in the morning just 1 hour before i go to school but no problem. Just ask
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 02, 2009, 02:24:56 PM
If it's played friday on the Finnish radio i could rip if no one else  would... The Finland hour it's the same with my country , so it'll be in the morning just 1 hour before i go to school but no problem. Just ask

please do? cause it seems the player isn't working for a lot of us me included. :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Bender Bending R. on December 02, 2009, 02:42:37 PM
after listening the previews many times, i have to say that i like, and i like much

of course they dont sound like eight years ago, but sound realy nice
i like, doesnt matter they sound pop or something, cause i like lot kind of music

at least i like this more that my first impression of kiss of dawn

waiting for the full song next friday, i will try to record it too, but i think the hour is not good for me

ps. waiting here to for the end of the dexter 4th season!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: lovemetal626 on December 02, 2009, 03:17:12 PM
If it's played friday on the Finnish radio i could rip if no one else  would... The Finland hour it's the same with my country , so it'll be in the morning just 1 hour before i go to school but no problem. Just ask

you are the nicest person on the planet!  ;D

thank you so much! karma up!



*edit* yeah the site doesn't work for me either, i donno why, i have all the plug-ins downloaded, tried Iexplorer, Firefox and google chrome, no go. :(
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Florianhermanni on December 02, 2009, 04:04:54 PM
If it's played friday on the Finnish radio i could rip if no one else  would... The Finland hour it's the same with my country , so it'll be in the morning just 1 hour before i go to school but no problem. Just ask

you are the nicest person on the planet!  ;D

thank you so much! karma up!



*edit* yeah the site doesn't work for me either, i donno why, i have all the plug-ins downloaded, tried Iexplorer, Firefox and google chrome, no go. :(


yes, indeed, would be very very nice of you if you could record it, I would try to, but all the radio streams don'T work for me-.-
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 02, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
It's because the policy from Finland , only finnish ip's work. The idea is i find a couple of proxy but i dunno if they will work in the morning on friday,, could someone help with a suggestion, i'll surely be up then but that is the problem!!

Edit: now they work but could be down by then,, thats so crappy,, ive read it people who were trying to listen to radiorock same problem, ip block
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Florianhermanni on December 02, 2009, 04:23:53 PM
It's because the policy from Finland , only finnish ip's work. The idea is i find a couple of proxy but i dunno if they will work in the morning on friday,, could someone help with a suggestion, i'll surely be up then but that is the problem!!

Edit: now they work but could be down by then,, thats so crappy,, ive read it people who were trying to listen to radiorock same problem, ip block

No, sorry...I'm not firm with these proxy stuff, tried this year from France to get on German pages but failed badly...good luck to you!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 02, 2009, 05:02:49 PM
when he says "flatliner for a heartkiller...."

terrible.


fucking america blew his "r"s...awful.


so far....C-

def. american pop.


Yeah i do not like how he pronounces the r's now, but I don't think it's America's fault specifically, just that his accent is changing as he speaks more english.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 02, 2009, 06:05:24 PM
when he says "flatliner for a heartkiller...."

terrible.


fucking america blew his "r"s...awful.


so far....C-

def. american pop.


Yeah i do not like how he pronounces the r's now, but I don't think it's America's fault specifically, just that his accent is changing as he speaks more english.

I honestly don't hear the difference. Comparing RR to VD and now this clip, his english is the same.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 02, 2009, 07:27:33 PM
when he says "flatliner for a heartkiller...."

terrible.


fucking america blew his "r"s...awful.


so far....C-


def. american pop.


Yeah i do not like how he pronounces the r's now, but I don't think it's America's fault specifically, just that his accent is changing as he speaks more english.

I honestly don't hear the difference. Comparing RR to VD and now this clip, his english is the same.

Really? Just listen to songs like Poison Girl, he pronounces his r's much differently. If you really want a true comparison listen to Poison Girl live in 2000 vs in 2008. Completely different stuff.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on December 02, 2009, 07:51:04 PM
Back then Ville used to embellish or enunciate differently on purpose.  At least, that's what I always thought.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 02, 2009, 08:28:58 PM
That's partly true, I especially feel that when HIM started out their original gigs sounded strange (kelo club) like Ville was changing his voice on purpose.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 02, 2009, 08:56:34 PM
I really don't see why it matters, it's a word and as long as you can understand it, it doesn't matter. Complaining how someone pronounces English words in a song is immature in my opinion. Not to mention blaming it on someone else when it's he who chooses to say it a certain way in the first place. Singers sometimes change the way they pronounce words to make it rhyme better.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: lovemetal626 on December 02, 2009, 09:44:53 PM
I really don't see why it matters, it's a word and as long as you can understand it, it doesn't matter. Complaining how someone pronounces English words in a song is immature in my opinion. Not to mention blaming it on someone else when it's he who chooses to say it a certain way in the first place. Singers sometimes change the way they pronounce words to make it rhyme better.

amen
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: The Bloody Glove on December 02, 2009, 10:51:36 PM
Lol the HIM community is caving in on itself


seriously though the people using the "american pop" argument are just plain stupid

the song is catchy and interesting

and

HIM  had a pop feel with freaking DS&BH!

then they made love metal it was a different style im sure there were tons of people bitching and moaning at the time they first heard  Love metal

they are just trying something new for a new ALBUM!!!

now wait for the damn thing to come out and u can lay down ur opinions




Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 02, 2009, 11:46:47 PM
Can anyone confirm if the radio stream is working now or is it only streamed at certain times?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 11:19:06 AM
 Reported by Blabbermouth.net


"Heartkiller", the new single from Finnish "love" metallers HIM, will premiere in the United States on MySpace on Friday, December 4. The track is the first single from the band's upcoming album, "Screamworks: Love In Theory And Practice", which will be released by Sire Records on February 9, 2010. Recorded at The Lair in Los Angeles, the CD was produced by Matt Squire (TAKING BACK SUNDAY, THE USED, SAOSIN) and mixed by Neal Avron (LINKIN PARK, WEEZER, FALL OUT BOY).

dont worry bout  the radio rips so much if ya can't hear it tonight it'll be on myspace tomorrow to download and listen to!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on December 03, 2009, 11:31:54 AM
Sweetness. Wonder how early they will post it?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 03, 2009, 11:35:25 AM
So it will be 1 day and half in USA. if im not wrong,, ill be hearing the song in a couple of hours and guys from us .. hmm anyway ill do my best in the morning to rip it, but that radio link is killing my nerves.  :D

Edit: .. or maybe i got it totally wrong, the only certain thing is that in hmm?!?! 7 hours from now ill should be able to listen to the song if my ultra all day founded proxy will work, now it does
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on December 03, 2009, 11:43:41 AM
7 hours? It's playing at 7:30 am Finnish local time. That's still more than 12 hours away.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 03, 2009, 11:46:56 AM
7 hours? It's playing at 7:30 am Finnish local time. That's still more than 12 hours away.
Right my math sucks, anyway whats the difference with (i mean in hours) between the US release? finland time... i mean if i cannot listen/rip the song in the morning how long do we have to wait for the us release, reporting to finland time:)))) sry if u think i put up a stupid question,actually it is, but im nervous like all of us...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on December 03, 2009, 11:50:11 AM
If you miss recording the Finnish broadcast, we'll likely only have to wait a few hours till morning on the U.S. eastern coast until it is up on Myspace. Unless they post it at 12am. Then it'll be right at the same time. I'm hoping it's the later, since I'll be getting off work around 12:30 central time tonight!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 03, 2009, 11:50:56 AM
I see , thank you verry much.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 03, 2009, 12:13:18 PM
So it will be 1 day and half in USA. if im not wrong,, ill be hearing the song in a couple of hours and guys from us .. hmm anyway ill do my best in the morning to rip it, but that radio link is killing my nerves.  :D

Edit: .. or maybe i got it totally wrong, the only certain thing is that in hmm?!?! 7 hours from now ill should be able to listen to the song if my ultra all day founded proxy will work, now it does

What proxy are you using? I got a Finland proxy and I'm able to browse the internet, but when I try connecting to the radio stream it doesn't work.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 03, 2009, 12:51:05 PM
try to put that proxy in the player /plugin from the site. it has a different network way, righ click , options ... etc , u will see,,, and if u have 194... etc its from switzerland, check ur ip on myip.com first to see if ur location is finland
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 01:31:01 PM
if someone could help me figure out this proxy shit and get the damn player working on the finnish site i'd record it too i have no idea what a proxy is and stuff like that im not very good with that stuff, any help?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 03, 2009, 01:48:05 PM
if someone could help me figure out this proxy shit and get the damn player working on the finnish site i'd record it too i have no idea what a proxy is and stuff like that im not very good with that stuff, any help?

then we will be 3 guys trying , i repeat trying to record it. ok find a good working finland proxy, google how to put it in ur browser depending what browser u have, then.. check ur ip on a ip check site and see if u have a right finland adress, that if u do have acces to the web and the proxy is working. google it
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 03, 2009, 01:49:29 PM
if someone could help me figure out this proxy shit and get the damn player working on the finnish site i'd record it too i have no idea what a proxy is and stuff like that im not very good with that stuff, any help?

lol dude wat proxy software are you using?

and to know if u got it working google whatsmyip - with that it should change from where ever your location to a finnish ip address

Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 03, 2009, 01:51:27 PM
if someone could help me figure out this proxy shit and get the damn player working on the finnish site i'd record it too i have no idea what a proxy is and stuff like that im not very good with that stuff, any help?

lol dude wat proxy software are you using?

and to know if u got it working google whatsmyip - with that it should change from where ever your location to a finnish ip address


just a find a working proxy not a proxy program , software stuff

Edit: im trying for hours to make it work stable, my gf too. No luck ,, maybe we could help each other.. and have that damn single in the morning just ready to put it on an mp3 player before going to school , work , university etc  ;D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 01:56:29 PM
i just don't know what im supposed to do and i don't wanna fuck up my computer to where i can't get the internet going and not hear it at all lol im not using software just firefox i looked up my ip on that site  i don't know where to go form there
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 03, 2009, 01:58:23 PM
i just don't know what im supposed to do and i don't wanna fuck up my computer to where i can't get the internet going and not hear it at all lol im not using software just firefox i looked up my ip on that site  i don't know where to go form there

loool funny, u cant fuck up ur computer just ur browser but then restore it and voaila .. look here http://technicalbliss.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-to-use-free-proxy-with-firefox.html and here (but no proxys working ) http://aliveproxy.com/proxy-list/proxies.aspx/Finland-fi   (i know we're off topic but in the name of this comunity to get that single faster, so sry )
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 03, 2009, 02:00:56 PM
im using firefox to

i know how to get FF to run thru a proxy but all i need is a working proxy
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quick guide

1 - go to tools
2 -  go to options
3 - on the top row click on the last icon (for advanced)
4 - click on the network tab (just a bit further down)
5 - can you see the part about connection? - click settings
6 - there you have it!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 03, 2009, 02:04:09 PM
let's just give up and wait for the myspace release
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Florianhermanni on December 03, 2009, 02:34:23 PM
I guess there will be some finnish guys that record it, and at least put it on youtube
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 02:34:57 PM
im using firefox to

i know how to get FF to run thru a proxy but all i need is a working proxy
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quick guide

1 - go to tools
2 -  go to options
3 - on the top row click on the last icon (for advanced)
4 - click on the network tab (just a bit further down)
5 - can you see the part about connection? - click settings
6 - there you have it!

ok i got that far now i go to manual prxy settings right but what do i put in?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 03, 2009, 02:36:11 PM
i aint sure cuz i aint none of the proxies to work

sorry man
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 02:41:17 PM
no biggy my little brother who's on his lap top upstairs said it just randomly works for him i don't know how but maybe i'll use his laptop to do it
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 03, 2009, 02:41:59 PM
which site?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 02:44:38 PM
the radio rock finnish online radio nm though he's a doofus he didnt have it working just has a big mouth lol i'll figure this out i have til 1230 i will get it done
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 03, 2009, 02:46:02 PM
LMAO - sorry man thats so funny

erm well we need some contacts in finland - have we got any?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 03, 2009, 02:47:38 PM
I guess there will be some finnish guys that record it, and at least put it on youtube
it will be tracked down in seconds on youtube
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 03, 2009, 02:51:10 PM
I got a working proxy, but when I go to the radio player it doesn't play. And yes it is a finland proxy.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 02:51:36 PM
when you trying hitting play on the radio rock site does it say connecting  to media then just go right back to ready again and never play anything thats what mine is doing
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 03, 2009, 02:52:03 PM
same ere
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 03, 2009, 02:54:50 PM
when you trying hitting play on the radio rock site does it say connecting  to media then just go right back to ready again and never play anything thats what mine is doing
yeah
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 03, 2009, 02:56:14 PM
then it aint working at all
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 03, 2009, 03:08:19 PM
So the radio stream isn't working? cause I can browse the internet with the proxy and the IPlookup says i'm in finland.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: LonelyRoad on December 03, 2009, 03:21:34 PM
when he says "flatliner for a heartkiller...."

terrible.


fucking america blew his "r"s...awful.


so far....C-

def. american pop.


Blame who you wanna blame, but at the end of the day it's still Ville who is writing and singing the lyrics, not someone else.



i know whos writing it and singing it.

im saying since he...and it happens to everyone who is around a different accent than their own...since they were touring the US and being around our accent he lost his beautiful way of speaking...especially his huge emphasis on the letter R...it will never sound as good as it used to.

so i blame america. we suck.

def a pet peave of mine.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 03, 2009, 03:30:45 PM
Anyone know if the radio stream only works for Finland IP's or does it work for its nearby neighbors like Sweden and Norway? Reason why I ask is the only known public proxies block you from using them for anything other than browsing. There's only a few Finland proxies and they're all from the same place "Helsinki Institute for Information Technology".
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 03:36:28 PM
i think i read on the heartagram forum that someone form stockholm had it working
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 03, 2009, 04:20:56 PM
It's no use, I've hundreds of proxies and none work. Dahaka if you have a working one could you please share it.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Alex on December 03, 2009, 04:47:57 PM
i'll try to record the song from the sattelite... there are few finnish radios which are broadcast with 192kbps and 48000mhz

scandinavian radio....which mostly today play traditional fin music...the other two- yle mondo and yle puhe.... but i'm not sure they are gonna play the song tommorow...  :(
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 03, 2009, 05:18:44 PM
if anyone does record it don't even bother putting it on youtube. Warner will track it down and get rid of it in seconds, just post it on these boards.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 03, 2009, 05:27:09 PM
i'll try to record the song from the sattelite... there are few finnish radios which are broadcast with 192kbps and 48000mhz

scandinavian radio....which mostly today play traditional fin music...the other two- yle mondo and yle puhe.... but i'm not sure they are gonna play the song tommorow...  :(

Vao is back yay

i hope u can record it
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 05:42:53 PM
You've caught a whisper of Heartkiller - now, this Friday at midnight Eastern, hear the FULL Heartkiller song, exclusively at HIM's Myspace

Official heartagram i'll record it off of myspace
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: FRO on December 03, 2009, 05:44:12 PM
friggen crap! someone better record something! I'm stuck here at work feeling hopeless! I wish I could help.... >:(
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 03, 2009, 05:52:34 PM
So technically we'll hear it on myspace before it's aired on that radio station.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Filipo Solari on December 03, 2009, 05:55:18 PM
You've caught a whisper of Heartkiller - now, this Friday at midnight Eastern, hear the FULL Heartkiller song, exclusively at HIM's Myspace

Official heartagram i'll record it off of myspace

i hope you can share it here
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 06:02:45 PM
not on the forums...that's risky
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 03, 2009, 06:08:06 PM
if u pass it to me ill make a torrent and send it in a mass pm and everywhere else lol
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: FRO on December 03, 2009, 06:09:26 PM
I think its only risky if you load it directly to the server....so if you use rapidshare and post it in the media section, you should be good....
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 03, 2009, 06:11:24 PM
well the myspace time would be 5am uk time

link if u get confussed http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/eastern-time/
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 06:18:25 PM
if u pass it to me ill make a torrent and send it in a mass pm and everywhere else lol

realllllll nice lol why don't you just mug Ville in the streets and steal his underwear while your at it not very nice lol
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Weemo on December 03, 2009, 06:20:04 PM
So how long until this is posted? Lol, I'm hopin' we get it before I leave for class in the morning so I can toss it on my PSP
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 03, 2009, 06:25:34 PM
So how long until this is posted? Lol, I'm hopin' we get it before I leave for class in the morning so I can toss it on my PSP
In about 5 and a half hours of the time of this post.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 06:25:59 PM
assuming i find an appropriate soundrecorder that records directly from the soundcard adn doesnt throw advertisments for the software in the middle of the song i'd say about 12:10 you know the place maybe 12:15 if im a little sluggish by then lol
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 03, 2009, 06:33:46 PM
so around midnight?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: FRO on December 03, 2009, 07:01:03 PM
if u pass it to me ill make a torrent and send it in a mass pm and everywhere else lol

realllllll nice lol why don't you just mug Ville in the streets and steal his underwear while your at it not very nice lol


That would mean that ville would have to drink again, and $ to be spent on the roofies!!! LOL!!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 07:15:20 PM
found a crack for the soundtap prog which worked before except with interruptions so lets see if this works i'll post back in a few  :P

edit well i feel very dirty right now but.....SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1220 the latest guys mwwwwwwwwwwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :-*
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Florianhermanni on December 03, 2009, 07:19:19 PM
it's 01:17 AM in Germany now...I don't wanna sleep though I know I could, and get up 5:45 again....hmm...ok I try...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jay on December 03, 2009, 07:26:28 PM
found a crack for the soundtap prog which worked before except with interruptions so lets see if this works i'll post back in a few  :P

edit well i feel very dirty right now but.....SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1220 the latest guys mwwwwwwwwwwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :-*

I have to say, I've got a chubby... :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 07:34:21 PM
found a crack for the soundtap prog which worked before except with interruptions so lets see if this works i'll post back in a few  :P

edit well i feel very dirty right now but.....SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1220 the latest guys mwwwwwwwwwwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :-*

I have to say, I've got a chubby... :)

If you saw me doing my happy dance right now you wouldn't be saying that lol
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jay on December 03, 2009, 07:40:16 PM
found a crack for the soundtap prog which worked before except with interruptions so lets see if this works i'll post back in a few  :P

edit well i feel very dirty right now but.....SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1220 the latest guys mwwwwwwwwwwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :-*

I have to say, I've got a chubby... :)

If you saw me doing my happy dance right now you wouldn't be saying that lol

You never know... *cough* I mean...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 08:06:19 PM
found a crack for the soundtap prog which worked before except with interruptions so lets see if this works i'll post back in a few  :P

edit well i feel very dirty right now but.....SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1220 the latest guys mwwwwwwwwwwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :-*

I have to say, I've got a chubby... :)

HAHAHA oh man well another four hours to go tick tock tick tock.... i may go watch some of observe and report just to pass the time god i'm anxious i hope that when the song is up on myspace they don't limit you to just one play casue if i fuck up the first recordign 'll be so pissed... i doubt theyll do that anyway..

If you saw me doing my happy dance right now you wouldn't be saying that lol

You never know... *cough* I mean...

haha oh man well here's to the waiting gamn tick tock tick tock.....uggggggggg
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: The Bloody Glove on December 03, 2009, 08:30:43 PM
I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sparks will fly
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: six6sixways2love on December 03, 2009, 10:21:25 PM
1hr 45 min left here on the west coast! im excited.

and I hope it shuts up all these nay-sayers who have been bitchin about how HIM hasnt made a good album since love metal. most of those people are probably band wagoners from when dark light came out. I'll be cynical and greedy and hope that this album pushes away alot of the newer american fans. That'll mean they'll play smaller cheaper venues.  ;D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: FRO on December 03, 2009, 10:32:00 PM
1:28 minutes!



stupid number one
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 03, 2009, 10:32:16 PM
1hr 45 min left here on the west coast! im excited.

and I hope it shuts up all these nay-sayers who have been bitchin about how HIM hasnt made a good album since love metal. most of those people are probably band wagoners from when dark light came out. I'll be cynical and greedy and hope that this album pushes away alot of the newer american fans. That'll mean they'll play smaller cheaper venues.  ;D

i'm a fan since 01 and i appreciate everything they've done. and i'm from dirty jersey! i still remember walking down the hallways in 10th grade razorblade and dsbh over and over again, and a heartagram on my book bag and no one knew what the hell it was lol then by my senior year everyone was like oh your the him dude haha i hope it doesnt push anyone away though. i hope they just look more into the band and realize that they always are changing. that's what good bands do.

EDit fro:more like an hour and twenty-seven minutes lol Smiley
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Morningrise on December 03, 2009, 10:35:32 PM
1hr 45 min left here on the west coast! im excited.

and I hope it shuts up all these nay-sayers who have been bitchin about how HIM hasnt made a good album since love metal. most of those people are probably band wagoners from when dark light came out. I'll be cynical and greedy and hope that this album pushes away alot of the newer american fans. That'll mean they'll play smaller cheaper venues.  ;D

I'm all for encouraging words, but you're an idiot.

e. If hearing the full single changes my perception of the upcoming album, I'll be the first to admit it. The fact is, I simply expect more from the band than what I heard from the sample. Dark Light was nothing compared to my surprise after hearing the 30 second sample.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: FRO on December 03, 2009, 10:36:26 PM
lol....my stupid 1 on my laptop dont work sometimes
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Weemo on December 03, 2009, 10:54:25 PM
Damn, how can I waste and hour
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: six6sixways2love on December 03, 2009, 10:58:23 PM
maybe i need to clarify a bit.

a)how can anyone judge a damn song, let alone the future of a band by a 30 sec clip?!
b)I love when a band changes just as much as the next guy.
c)I think there are alot of people out there that put themselves in a catch 22. When a band changes their sound, ppl complain that "its not like their old stuff" or "they've lost it". BUT when a band keeps on putting out the same sounding album 2-3 times in a row people complain about how they're not being original and they are just sticking with a formula they know that works.


I'm not saying everyone in this thread fits the description above. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. just making a general statement.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: vampireheart616 on December 03, 2009, 11:57:40 PM
amazing song  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Weemo on December 03, 2009, 11:58:47 PM
Booya it's up
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Morningrise on December 04, 2009, 12:00:47 AM
I don't have a problem with change. My only gripe is when it's for all the wrong reasons. They're obviously trying to make a name for themselves in the states. I want them to be successful here. I really do. But at what cost? I don't want them to sacrifice their gothic European roots for something that's considered more accessible.

I can say with a straight face that what I heard from the sample didn't sound like HIM, save for Ville's voice belting out the lyrics. What I heard sounded a lot like the contrived drivel I hear all the time on the radio. And you want to know why? Because Matt Squire produces that sort of shit. I've never been a fan of it. Why would I be now?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Lujja on December 04, 2009, 12:03:39 AM
Awesome Song... Awesome Solo!  :P
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 04, 2009, 12:06:08 AM
Rip is posted in the media section, enjoy!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Morningrise on December 04, 2009, 12:06:24 AM
I just listened to the song. Yeah... no thanks.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: vampireheart616 on December 04, 2009, 12:07:22 AM
Rip is posted in the media section, enjoy!

thanks so much i was about to rip and upload it myself if no one else was soon
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: six6sixways2love on December 04, 2009, 12:08:12 AM
great new song! Ville's voice songs amazing. burton gives the perfect atmosphere. mige bass is turned up more in the mix and is groovy. linde's guitar work and range of style never ceases to amaze me. and Mr. Gas is just solid sounding.

loved the girl moaning in the background. probably got a real girl to sit in the studio while they recorded it
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Weemo on December 04, 2009, 12:10:13 AM
I'm diggin' it, but some of the lyrics feel a bit forced.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Florianhermanni on December 04, 2009, 12:13:19 AM
YESSSSSS

What a song!!!!

 :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: loveslastbreath on December 04, 2009, 12:15:10 AM
great new song! Ville's voice songs amazing. burton gives the perfect atmosphere. mige bass is turned up more in the mix and is groovy. linde's guitar work and range of style never ceases to amaze me. and Mr. Gas is just solid sounding.

loved the girl moaning in the background. probably got a real girl to sit in the studio while they recorded it
where do u hear a woman moaning? only woman i hear moaning is Ville j/k :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 04, 2009, 12:17:17 AM
yeah i dont know about this one. when ville said he was trying to write a lot of songs he meant it. the lyrics are really forced on this one...its ok.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Morningrise on December 04, 2009, 12:18:43 AM
where do u hear a woman moaning? only woman i hear moaning is Ville j/k :)

He probably forgot he left his tap open streaming porn.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: loveslastbreath on December 04, 2009, 12:25:14 AM
where do u hear a woman moaning? only woman i hear moaning is Ville j/k :)

He probably forgot he left his tap open streaming porn.
haha probably. im with you in a few ways man the lyrics seem forced, guitars are somewhat simplistic along with the drums. real step back from venus doom. yes it sounds like razorblade romance a bit but to say that this song would be on that album is a joke. kinda hoping this is the poppiest track on the album. anyone else notice that since razorblade romance weve had to put up with a really subpar HIM album before getting a truly amazing album. no offense to those of you who like DSBH but i hated it.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Morningrise on December 04, 2009, 12:37:42 AM
haha probably. im with you in a few ways man the lyrics seem forced, guitars are somewhat simplistic along with the drums. real step back from venus doom. yes it sounds like razorblade romance a bit but to say that this song would be on that album is a joke. kinda hoping this is the poppiest track on the album. anyone else notice that since razorblade romance weve had to put up with a really subpar HIM album before getting a truly amazing album. no offense to those of you who like DSBH but i hated it.

I feel like their first three albums were brilliantly executed. I love the first three to death. After Deep Shadows though, I feel like they've been on a steady decline. If I had to rate the albums in order, I'm afraid it wouldn't be very different from the order which they were released.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Carrie on December 04, 2009, 01:01:20 AM
The whole song is now available on myspace http://www.myspace.com/heartagram
YAY! lol
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: PhiLiz on December 04, 2009, 01:13:29 AM
I was very disappointed after hearing the samples and my opinion still isn't that good after hearing the whole song.

Just like I had noticed, the chorus is, at best, bearable. The song has a very Alternative Pop/Rock structure in sense that uses a typical verse-chorus-verse form. This is actually quite frequent in HIM, the issue being the overall feeling of the song is also very Pop... and this is not that new. Pop is something that has been present in HIM quite a lot, but mixed with the sonority that makes HIM what it is. This time, that sound is quite absent...

The guitar has a little more room that I thought after hearing the samples, but is too clean and predictable. The keyboards mix the worst of 'DS&BH' and 'Dark Light' tendencies with some dispensable effects and arrangements... and instead of mysterious and haunting parts, there is this almost "happy" feeling to it. In a positive middle point, I really liked the bass...
The voice has some decent and refreshing moments but the chorus almost ruins it all in this department. Also the lyrics are somewhat a drawback in some sections and I wasn't really seeing this negative aspect coming since the lyrics have been one of the most interesting aspects of HIM's music, namely in 'Venus Doom'...

Now, what gives me some hope:
Many of the things I've pointed out as negative may come from the fact that this is a single. It's a shame that Ville is talking in interviews (like the one in Rock On Magazine) about a single that must be "radio-friendly" and that this "commercial" attitude is somehow back (after its almost non existence during the 'Venus Doom' era), but it might be just a small price to pay...
The positive aspects in the song like some guitar work, the voice in some verses and the bass might fit a lot better in less single-formatted songs. This is what I hope, at least.

Of course that, comparing the two first sights of the last albums, 'Venus Doom' had a lot more positive points even in its most accessible moments. The same if the compassion is made for 'Dark Light', adding the fact that the latter was also very Pop-oriented...

After a nasty surprise with the samples and just a slightly better view after hearing the whole thing I remain sceptical about this direction in HIM's music...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Carrie on December 04, 2009, 01:18:35 AM
I've heard a lot of people say some pretty nasty things about the song. I personally am on the edge of it. It's got the right kind of HIM cheese that I dig, but there is like you said PhiLiz a "happy" feel and I don't know what to think.

A lot of people are going..."Oh god it's too pop..."

I say fuck it let them go as poppy and happy as they want to...and someday they might see that being pop princesses (and yes I mean princesses lol) sucks and hopefully we might hear something more interesting, better and perhaps a little return to the beginning. That is my hope out of all of this.

Then again I might be going into it too deep since this is only the first damn thing I have heard off the album. I am keeping my fingers crossed for hidden goodies that aren't "singles" cause I tend to not like those too much...overplayage and what not.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: six6sixways2love on December 04, 2009, 02:00:11 AM
I'm diggin' it, but some of the lyrics feel a bit forced.

the whole post card thing????

dark light had alot of that forced issues
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: lastxcallforsin on December 04, 2009, 02:13:29 AM
I thought the lyrics throughout Venus Doom were pretty bad aside from Sleepwalking. Am I the only one who liked the lyrical content from Dark Light? As for the new song, after listening to Heartkiller, Dark Light doesn't seem so poppy.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on December 04, 2009, 02:21:36 AM
I rather like the song.  :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on December 04, 2009, 02:23:10 AM
I rather like the song.  :)

Same. I think I'm evolving with them.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on December 04, 2009, 02:38:25 AM
Things I liked (I've only listened twice so far):

-The intro. Sounds VERY similar to And Love Said No. It's like an homage, then Linde's guitar comes jamming in.
-Ville's voice overal. Sounds much more youthful than it has in years. Very energetic.
-Ville's "yelp". Love it, every time he does it!
-I like the ending after the last chorus. Wish they'd have expanded on that section.

Dislike:
The frankenstiens line. Feels forced.

Edit:
While this feels very poppy and commercial, it still retains the HIM sound. To me, it's no worse than some of the pop tracks off RR or DSBH. When I first heard WOAB, I thought it was too commercial. I don't feel this way with Heartkiller. Perhaps I'm used to it, I dunno. And really, is commercial all that bad?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: LonelyRoad on December 04, 2009, 03:43:31 AM
only band ive still ever known to have me like every single song.


i had my doubts....

but

thumbs up.

dos veces.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: lovemetal626 on December 04, 2009, 05:25:38 AM
im loving this song, Ive been listening to it none-stop.

uhh February is so far away  :'(



i can see why ppl might not like the song,

but for me, its a very awesome refreshing NEW sound. key word there folks, NEW!  :P

im one of those ppl that like to hear new stuff constantly, whether it be bad or good, its still evolving, and thats the healthiest thing to anything.

just like a painter, you have to change your style constantly, or ppl will get bored of your paintings.

trying new things gives you more expirence aswell.


*edit* also i like how the song is short and to the point. i loved venus doom, but some of the songs were just dragged on tooo long.

metal hammers descriptions were very good for this track.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 04, 2009, 05:31:02 AM
if u pass it to me ill make a torrent and send it in a mass pm and everywhere else lol

realllllll nice lol why don't you just mug Ville in the streets and steal his underwear while your at it not very nice lol

dude i was jokin lol
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: lovemetal626 on December 04, 2009, 05:32:24 AM
if u pass it to me ill make a torrent and send it in a mass pm and everywhere else lol

realllllll nice lol why don't you just mug Ville in the streets and steal his underwear while your at it not very nice lol

dude i was jokin lol

if you really did steal his underwear, i bet you could ebay that thing for a hefty price  :D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 04, 2009, 06:37:42 AM
maybe i need to clarify a bit.

a)how can anyone judge a damn song, let alone the future of a band by a 30 sec clip?!
b)I love when a band changes just as much as the next guy.
c)I think there are alot of people out there that put themselves in a catch 22. When a band changes their sound, ppl complain that "its not like their old stuff" or "they've lost it". BUT when a band keeps on putting out the same sounding album 2-3 times in a row people complain about how they're not being original and they are just sticking with a formula they know that works.

I'm not saying everyone in this thread fits the description above. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. just making a general statement.

Now i can judge the whole song, not a nice song . horrible lyrics. Thats my opinion pls respect it as i respect yours, its democracy dude.. wtf ???
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: koohai on December 04, 2009, 06:44:07 AM
Really different stuff from VD! Maybe it's a bit too commercial for my tastes, but catchy as hell! I like it. Good job, can't wait to hear the whole album.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on December 04, 2009, 09:38:35 AM
This is the sort of stuff I was hoping for this album.

Punchy, catchy, more classic HIM hooks and guitar pieces.  I love it.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on December 04, 2009, 11:34:36 AM
maybe i need to clarify a bit.

a)how can anyone judge a damn song, let alone the future of a band by a 30 sec clip?!
b)I love when a band changes just as much as the next guy.
c)I think there are alot of people out there that put themselves in a catch 22. When a band changes their sound, ppl complain that "its not like their old stuff" or "they've lost it". BUT when a band keeps on putting out the same sounding album 2-3 times in a row people complain about how they're not being original and they are just sticking with a formula they know that works.

I'm not saying everyone in this thread fits the description above. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. just making a general statement.

Now i can judge the whole song, not a nice song . horrible lyrics. Thats my opinion pls respect it as i respect yours, its democracy dude.. wtf ???

fair enough
is it just the lyrics that you dont like?
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: 0401695 on December 04, 2009, 12:13:48 PM
I Love this song.

Will we die, above the last sunrise
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Inferno on December 04, 2009, 12:14:58 PM
On side note, I have tried to get at least 3 of my friends to like their music and I have played several songs from LM, DL, and VD and they all said the same thing, "It all sounds the same". Which may be true to virgin listeners, but the point is that this song is different in a lot of ways and I like it cause maybe it is true, it all did sound the same.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 04, 2009, 12:37:37 PM
After re listening to this song about 50 times I can draw too some conclusions.

This album will probably sound like the polar opposite to Venus Doom.

Metal Hammer has no fuckin clue what they're talking about, sounds no way like Love Metal.

That being said, I enjoy this song cept for the lyrics. This is the first HIM song I can recall that some of the lyrics are obviously out of place in the music. HIM has to speed up his singing just to make them go along with the music, but they still don't.

Also I'm probably the only person here who likes the intro. I just don't see whats bad about it.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: koohai on December 04, 2009, 01:37:11 PM
Also I'm probably the only person here who likes the intro. I just don't see whats bad about it.

You're right, the intro is awesome. Nice keyboard playing.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: BenjoRsValo666 on December 04, 2009, 01:39:21 PM
Good song , much better than VD , not ass dark
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on December 04, 2009, 01:48:12 PM
We need tabs to rock out to anyone on it?!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 04, 2009, 03:18:10 PM
i figured out most of the guitar it's pretty basic i'm not a fan of making tabs though it's a pain in the ass lol
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jay on December 04, 2009, 10:36:51 PM
To me, it's a good mix of the Dark Light and Razorblade sound.  I dig it, as I love both of those records.  I've had to force myself to stop listening to the song so I don't play it out. 
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 05, 2009, 12:46:48 AM
do you think there is gonna be a video for heartkiller? usually there is with the first single...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on December 05, 2009, 02:36:36 AM
do you think there is gonna be a video for heartkiller? usually there is with the first single...

safe to say there will be one
i was just wondering today what they could do with this song (video-wise)
i can only really imagine a live performance. i also envisioned maybe like a dark, hospital themed video
keeping with the whole theme of 'heartkilling'
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on December 05, 2009, 08:41:05 AM
I was thinking something involving lots of lens flares, ala the new Star Trek. It's a fresh sound for HIM, and whatever the video is, it needs to reflect that.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: monkersville on December 05, 2009, 03:50:38 PM
Dude, I can;t wait to see a video for this single.  It's gonna be crazy.  I definitely like this song for the most part more than anything they've recently.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: lovemetal626 on December 05, 2009, 03:56:46 PM
wow after reading the real official lyrics.

.... its amazing, i think the lyrics are as good as DL. i like it!


ppl who say they seemed force, has your opinion changed after reading the official lyrics? just curious, cuz we were off by a bit.

i love this new song.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 05, 2009, 05:47:31 PM
wow after reading the real official lyrics.

.... its amazing, i think the lyrics are as good as DL. i like it!


ppl who say they seemed force, has your opinion changed after reading the official lyrics? just curious, cuz we were off by a bit.

i love this new song.

What I mean by the lyrics being forced is the way Ville sings them. At points in the song before the chorus, his singing doesn't seem in sync with the instruments...it sounds off.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Weemo on December 05, 2009, 11:33:11 PM
wow after reading the real official lyrics.

.... its amazing, i think the lyrics are as good as DL. i like it!


ppl who say they seemed force, has your opinion changed after reading the official lyrics? just curious, cuz we were off by a bit.

i love this new song.
I still think some of them were forced. The line "It doesn't have to make any sense at all" does not flow as smoothly as the rest of the song. The song is still really solid though, and I definitely dig the more poppy route the song has taken.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: six6sixways2love on December 06, 2009, 04:09:14 AM
to comment on some thing in the past few pages

yes, matt squire definitely takes away the bands Scandinavian sound a tad. I'll take johnny lee michaels or Hilli anyday! look at the difference between DL and VD. tim palmer worked on both. the difference, Hilli worked along side tim on VD and gave the band their edge back.
[side note: Matt Hyde who just produced the new 69 eyes record did a great job at keeping the  band's sound very much intact but also pushing them to evolve. So matt h is on the good list of American producers]

lyrically its still very good IMO. I accepted it during DL that not every HIM song was going to be deep thoughtful poetry anymore. Ville's mind is in a much better place now so he's going to write how he feels. So be thankful he's not putting on this fake "emo" mask and sing woe is me, woe is love all the time when he's actually enjoy life.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Bender Bending R. on December 06, 2009, 06:35:36 AM
i've listened the new song hundred of times since it was on my space
i really like a lot, this not happened with WOB or KOD

just waiting for the rest of the album, seems that normal edition will be with 13 tracks
i'm sure there will be some nice HIM songs in this album
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Danny on December 07, 2009, 01:33:47 PM
After re listening to this song about 50 times I can draw too some conclusions.

This album will probably sound like the polar opposite to Venus Doom.

Metal Hammer has no fuckin clue what they're talking about, sounds no way like Love Metal.

That being said, I enjoy this song cept for the lyrics. This is the first HIM song I can recall that some of the lyrics are obviously out of place in the music. HIM has to speed up his singing just to make them go along with the music, but they still don't.

Also I'm probably the only person here who likes the intro. I just don't see whats bad about it.
I agree on the intro thingy, dont know why so many people are complaining about it. I think its a super cool start on the song:D

And that so called "forced" lyrics. I dont think it sounds forced at all. I like it a lot, never heard Ville sing in this way before and it makes the verse sound really awesome when he sings the lyrics like that ;D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: monkersville on December 07, 2009, 02:25:20 PM
The intro for the song is amazing.  Just sounds so cool.  And yeah he sounds like his accent isn't all there, but you can still hear it.  And, it doesn't sound forced.  This song is just amazing can't stop listening to it. 
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 07, 2009, 11:06:33 PM
i'm curious to see if this itunes release has any other songs with it like an acoustic version or something???? i hope so that would be awesome

edit nevermind it's on us itunes now just the single  :(
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 07, 2009, 11:40:26 PM
I'm starting to think that the physical release will be in February, that's why some countries have to wait much longer.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on December 07, 2009, 11:49:53 PM
I'm really excited to buy it on iTunes, but I feel like it's just gonna be one song, with no b-sides
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 07, 2009, 11:51:52 PM
no b-sides just bought it on itunes like 20 minutes ago i have the first review hahahaha
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on December 07, 2009, 11:54:43 PM
It's also on Amazon.com for 99 cents, for us cheapskates.  :D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on December 07, 2009, 11:59:12 PM
no b-sides just bought it on itunes like 20 minutes ago i have the first review hahahaha
what a bummer... even a radio edit would have been nice
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jack Sparrow on December 07, 2009, 11:59:25 PM

Now i can judge the whole song, not a nice song . horrible lyrics. Thats my opinion pls respect it as i respect yours, its democracy dude.. wtf ???

I'm really with you on this one.  Of course HIM super fans are going to love them even if they crap in all the record tracks in the studio.    
My overall view and honestly,  this is my point of view and if you don't like it... granted.

HIM years ago lost that touchy and melodic feel that got our attention in just seconds.  To my own perspective, that HIM died with Dark Light,   nice album, average songs with average comercial opportunities, then came Venus Doom and "what the hell were they thinking??" oh whatever, lets carry on;   but now comes the new single that opens up the door to what to expect:

The intro?  the electronic bits and sinthetized sound are cool but then the "main riff" comes up and screws the intro completely, that for me is the first flaw.  Ville's voice, very average.  The song verse and chorus melody are catchy and obviously they were aiming to a commercial song,  not achieved by many aspects.        
Second greatest flaw??? lyrics!   come man!  I recall that every damn song in the GLS666 to LM catalogue had intriguing and incredible lines that you can use easily to touch every girl heart!    what happened to lines like "my heaven is wherever you are" or "my home is in your arms" ??    
Please kick my ass for this but I dont really get it.    Lazarus at frankensteins??? what the hell?? if I dedicate that song to a girl, surely is going to send the ipod up my ass for such a line.     Oh well,  lets keep going.
As usual, drum and bass wise,  Mige and Gas are not exploiting themselves to their full potential.

So in conclusion:  The song is OK, I have listened to it like a 100 times and I like it but Its way below HIM great standards. We're all waiting for a new GLS666, RR or DSBH, that is not going to happen soon as this kind of sounds its just a very big step away from that, and not to be confused with "sound evolution".   Do you want to hear sound evolution, I keep using  The Rasmus' Black Roses album as a very clear example of how a band has to evolve.

So that all, only my opinion, like it, hate it, whatever.

so, have a nice day and I wish you all a merry merry X mas 09,  have fun, listen to music, get drunk etc etc etc!!

cheers! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on December 08, 2009, 12:03:55 AM
no b-sides just bought it on itunes like 20 minutes ago i have the first review hahahaha
what a bummer... even a radio edit would have been nice
Yeah, but keep in mind it's just a digital single. Generally it's only one track. Bleed Well having bonus tracks was, well, a bonus!
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 08, 2009, 08:55:40 AM
i would have like BL as a cd - KL remix

anyways i think the song shold have been longer cuz i enjoyed VD as a long album
but i hope overall if the album is short and the songs are good then i aint complaining

BTW is anyone going to order the special and or if there will be a limited edition will they be getting that aswell?

Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: dahaka on December 08, 2009, 12:55:17 PM

Now i can judge the whole song, not a nice song . horrible lyrics. Thats my opinion pls respect it as i respect yours, its democracy dude.. wtf ???

I'm really with you on this one.  Of course HIM super fans are going to love them even if they crap in all the record tracks in the studio.    
My overall view and honestly,  this is my point of view and if you don't like it... granted.

HIM years ago lost that touchy and melodic feel that got our attention in just seconds.  To my own perspective, that HIM died with Dark Light,   nice album, average songs with average comercial opportunities, then came Venus Doom and "what the hell were they thinking??" oh whatever, lets carry on;   but now comes the new single that opens up the door to what to expect:

The intro?  the electronic bits and sinthetized sound are cool but then the "main riff" comes up and screws the intro completely, that for me is the first flaw.  Ville's voice, very average.  The song verse and chorus melody are catchy and obviously they were aiming to a commercial song,  not achieved by many aspects.        
Second greatest flaw??? lyrics!   come man!  I recall that every damn song in the GLS666 to LM catalogue had intriguing and incredible lines that you can use easily to touch every girl heart!    what happened to lines like "my heaven is wherever you are" or "my home is in your arms" ??    
Please kick my ass for this but I dont really get it.    Lazarus at frankensteins??? what the hell?? if I dedicate that song to a girl, surely is going to send the ipod up my ass for such a line.     Oh well,  lets keep going.
As usual, drum and bass wise,  Mige and Gas are not exploiting themselves to their full potential.

So in conclusion:  The song is OK, I have listened to it like a 100 times and I like it but Its way below HIM great standards. We're all waiting for a new GLS666, RR or DSBH, that is not going to happen soon as this kind of sounds its just a very big step away from that, and not to be confused with "sound evolution".   Do you want to hear sound evolution, I keep using  The Rasmus' Black Roses album as a very clear example of how a band has to evolve.

So that all, only my opinion, like it, hate it, whatever.

so, have a nice day and I wish you all a merry merry X mas 09,  have fun, listen to music, get drunk etc etc etc!!

cheers! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

With on you on this, i hate people from here and other forums telling me to go screw myself if i dont like the track,, i listen to him sincer '98 commmon?? thats my opinion, i hate the single probably ill not like the album if its like this but i still gonna love them live, im still gonna buy there albums, ill still listen to their music,,
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: 0401695 on December 08, 2009, 01:45:21 PM
I love this new fresh sound and still clascic HIM
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Daedalus on December 08, 2009, 07:18:17 PM
i would have like BL as a cd - KL remix

anyways i think the song shold have been longer cuz i enjoyed VD as a long album
but i hope overall if the album is short and the songs are good then i aint complaining

BTW is anyone going to order the special and or if there will be a limited edition will they be getting that aswell?



Whatever versions they put out, I'll buy. I'm sick.  ;D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jay on December 08, 2009, 07:40:16 PM
I'm with you on that...I always buy the most "special" version there is... *sigh* I'm such a whore... :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: stigmata92 on December 08, 2009, 08:50:14 PM
Yeah, for Venus Doom I bought the special edition because the Limited Edition looked like a rip off. If Screamworks has a limited edition with actual bonus songs then I might consider buying that.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Len777 on December 09, 2009, 12:02:36 AM
I'm with you on that...I always buy the most "special" version there is... *sigh* I'm such a whore... :)

If you were a whore they'd be paying you lol your a HIM slut! hahahahaaaa ;D................................................ me too lol
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Rasta666 on December 09, 2009, 03:28:09 PM
I'm with you on that...I always buy the most "special" version there is... *sigh* I'm such a whore... :)

If you were a whore they'd be paying you lol your a HIM slut! hahahahaaaa ;D................................................ me too lol

huge sluts. me three...
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: heartagram_616 on December 09, 2009, 05:41:33 PM
haha lets all agree that we are all HIM sluts

i got the diff version cuz of the covers/ packing and not the songs in all honesty

i just hope they will release some info soon (im broke and need to know how much i need lol )
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: ameliamarina on December 24, 2009, 05:28:12 AM
yukkk. sounds crap and american. i give up. we're never going to see the old 'him' again.

that's right :/ but don't give up :)
i gave up too but then they released Venus doom (which i didn't like that much but... Sleepwalking Past Hope.... <3 is awesome!!!)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: VillesFaerieQueen on December 28, 2009, 03:00:19 PM
I wasn't sure when i heard the 30 second clip, but i listened to it loads anyway
and then the full length version: well, I loved it!
I've een getting into more electro-y stuff recently, so the intro automatically had me hooked!
On first few listens, the lyrics sounded like a load of nonsense, but i still thought that  the song was amazing regardless - mind you, Ville could sing 'the wheels on the bus' and I'd love it!
But then I started reading into the words a lot more, analyzing them as i always tend to unconsiously do (what with being a literature student and all), and I came to realize that they're about love being created, made up, held on to (like Lazarus was ressurected and Frankenstein's monster made), love for the sake of love, not for love at all, at least, this is my interpretation, and I think the song is wonderful, and a lot deeper than all of the people who take it on face value seem to think it is.
xx
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: vuK4vAlo on December 28, 2009, 08:49:23 PM
I wasn't sure when i heard the 30 second clip, but i listened to it loads anyway
and then the full length version: well, I loved it!
I've een getting into more electro-y stuff recently, so the intro automatically had me hooked!
On first few listens, the lyrics sounded like a load of nonsense, but i still thought that  the song was amazing regardless - mind you, Ville could sing 'the wheels on the bus' and I'd love it!
But then I started reading into the words a lot more, analyzing them as i always tend to unconsiously do (what with being a literature student and all), and I came to realize that they're about love being created, made up, held on to (like Lazarus was ressurected and Frankenstein's monster made), love for the sake of love, not for love at all, at least, this is my interpretation, and I think the song is wonderful, and a lot deeper than all of the people who take it on face value seem to think it is.
xx

I totally agree! This song is a lot more poetic and romantic than you'd first think. I'm so excited for the new album! :)
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: emock on January 03, 2010, 07:02:20 PM

Now i can judge the whole song, not a nice song . horrible lyrics. Thats my opinion pls respect it as i respect yours, its democracy dude.. wtf ???

I'm really with you on this one.  Of course HIM super fans are going to love them even if they crap in all the record tracks in the studio.    
My overall view and honestly,  this is my point of view and if you don't like it... granted.

HIM years ago lost that touchy and melodic feel that got our attention in just seconds.  To my own perspective, that HIM died with Dark Light,   nice album, average songs with average comercial opportunities, then came Venus Doom and "what the hell were they thinking??" oh whatever, lets carry on;   but now comes the new single that opens up the door to what to expect:

The intro?  the electronic bits and sinthetized sound are cool but then the "main riff" comes up and screws the intro completely, that for me is the first flaw.  Ville's voice, very average.  The song verse and chorus melody are catchy and obviously they were aiming to a commercial song,  not achieved by many aspects.        
Second greatest flaw??? lyrics!   come man!  I recall that every damn song in the GLS666 to LM catalogue had intriguing and incredible lines that you can use easily to touch every girl heart!    what happened to lines like "my heaven is wherever you are" or "my home is in your arms" ??    
Please kick my ass for this but I dont really get it.    Lazarus at frankensteins??? what the hell?? if I dedicate that song to a girl, surely is going to send the ipod up my ass for such a line.     Oh well,  lets keep going.
As usual, drum and bass wise,  Mige and Gas are not exploiting themselves to their full potential.

So in conclusion:  The song is OK, I have listened to it like a 100 times and I like it but Its way below HIM great standards. We're all waiting for a new GLS666, RR or DSBH, that is not going to happen soon as this kind of sounds its just a very big step away from that, and not to be confused with "sound evolution".   Do you want to hear sound evolution, I keep using  The Rasmus' Black Roses album as a very clear example of how a band has to evolve.

So that all, only my opinion, like it, hate it, whatever.

so, have a nice day and I wish you all a merry merry X mas 09,  have fun, listen to music, get drunk etc etc etc!!

cheers! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

With on you on this, i hate people from here and other forums telling me to go screw myself if i dont like the track,, i listen to him sincer '98 commmon?? thats my opinion, i hate the single probably ill not like the album if its like this but i still gonna love them live, im still gonna buy there albums, ill still listen to their music,,

I'm glad to find I'm not the only one who's not blown over. I think the 80s synthyness is quite cool actually but... average lyrics, a very mainstreamy twang and those rather American endings to the words just hit me instantly.

I think it'll grow on me though. Be interesting to see how it compares with the other tracks. THe songs you end up loving arn't neccesarily the singles.
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Vpr616 on January 07, 2010, 03:26:06 PM
Good to see I'm not the only one who's disappointed with new songs. It sounds like very mainstream stuff... And yes, it's very annoying when someone tells me that if I don't like new material I should f**k off... As a fan, paying for CDs, I can have some expectations, or at very least my own opinion. Venus Doom was great, quite heavy, even progressive. I was damn sure they won't keep that direction on next album, that would be too good :( But I've hoped for something better, especially when Ville said that he wants something more punky, and that he's "bastard he was meant to be". I've hoped for some kind of suprise, maybe something like early songs from DSBH - Again, Please Don't Let It Go (Punk Version I mean) or Beautiful Third Seal. Someone would say I'm stupid if I thought that they'd go punk, but let's face it - would anyone expect VD to be such heavy, doomy stuff?

And there I got the "suprise" that I've wanted, only it's a negative one :/ Songs are gonna be short, but that's where similarity to punk rock ends. Instead we'll get Dark Light II with even shittier sound, and worse lyrics. Ok, I know, I know. I'm going too far, I should wait for album release. But I remember how it was with VD - with the first notes of Dead Lovers' Lane you just knew it - new album we'll be amazing!

I still expect from Screamworks two things, that will save it in my eyes/ears:
1. Some f**kin' guitars! I love how Linde kicks in after this shitty intro in Heartkiller, but then as song goes, he gets muted down...
2. Low vocals! Where is Ville's deep voice? So far only somewhere in the background at one point of Heartkiller... Few low parts would be nice. That's why I got into HIM - I got impressed by "the guy that sounds like Peter Steele" :D His low voice on VD was perhaps the lowest he got in long time, and I've kinda hoped that after he finally recalls how to do it, he will keep it up :P

Ok, that's it. I promise I'll stop complaining and moaning 'till the release of full album... or at least 'till next 30 seconds of a new song :P
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Love_Metal616 on January 16, 2010, 03:14:46 AM
I liked it right away. Now we got the whole song :D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Bender Bending R. on January 16, 2010, 09:09:03 AM
(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/03/music/tkatch/warner/Bandana-HIM_Packshot_220x220._V205440838_.jpg)(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/03/music/tkatch/warner/Bandana-HIM-Bild-002_220x22._V205440853_.jpg)(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/03/music/tkatch/warner/Bandana-HIM-Bild-004_220x22._V205440822_.jpg)
that's the "bandana" that the special hearkiller single include

ive seen the soundclips on jpc have been removed, for the single, and for the album
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: HeartagramFan on January 16, 2010, 10:17:26 AM
After i heard it, i liked it right away!

Now, the song is out....it's amazing :D
Title: Re: Heartkiller 30 second clip
Post by: Jay on January 28, 2010, 02:58:52 PM
We've a full single now, so this is locked.