The Sacrament
HIM => News & Rumors => Topic started by: Harker on May 17, 2007, 11:39:51 AM
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According to ~TheSacrament~ in the Venus Doom thread (http://thesacrament.net/forum/index.php?topic=2158.msg88802#msg88802):
Srry my last post was false but they confirmed the remake of the sacrament and dont fear the reaper.
REASONS:
THE SACRAMENT:
Bam will direct the video and the name will be changed into sacramentum(latin for sacrament).
DONT FEAR THE REAPER:
This ones long...really long...very long... lol.
HIM found out that this song had a VERY LOW fanbase and is remaking it into two videos.
Their version will be 8 minutes long, and containing some of Valos most kept secret lyrics in a notepad of his that he's been writing. The video will be taken place in Glasgow Necropolis which is a victorian cemetery in Glasgow, Scotland.
Valo said its his favorite place on earth and would love to have it here.[url]http://www.answers.com/topic/glasgow-necropolis[/url] ([url]http://www.answers.com/topic/glasgow-necropolis[/url])
The other video will be for a movie coming out in August 31st 2007"HALLOWEEN"which is a remake of the Original "Halloween" that came out in the 1970's directed by Rob Zombie;rocker turned director.
Apparently the original blue oyster cult song plays in various scenes of the movie. Valo claims that this is one of His favourite movies. THIS IS CONFIRMED AND I CANT BELEIVE WHAT IM ABOUT TO SAY BUT ITS CONFIRMED AS WELL! Bam apparently has a small singing part in sacramentum(RM) and in dont fear the reaper(RM).
Source: an interview with Bam on MTV2
So there will come 3 new videos:
1) Remake of 'The Sacrament' (Sacramentum), directed by Bam
2) Video of 'Don't Fear The Reaper', shoot in Glasgow Necropolis
3) Video of 'Don't Fear The Reaper', for the remake of the movie Halloween
The last one will probably be a promo for the movie. In the remake of the movie a remake of the song.
Bam is singing small parts in the new versions.
I can't find more information about it on other HIM and Bam websites
@~TheSacrament~, what does (RM) mean?
(RM) = Remake
EDIT: Thanks Darklight616
I heard it on mtv there was an interview with bam i dont think its true im just stating what someone else said
Rumor of not, this is not about the new album, Venus Doom, so I made a new topic for further discussion. If it false information, please close it
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why not?
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Sounds pretty amazing to me. I am looking forward to it.
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Bam, come on...
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Enough with this stupid Bam bullshit. Get over yourselves seriously okay you don't like him. But it's a HIM remake of two songs a lot of people on this board appreciate it. He is probably just is the background vocals. It's not that big of a deal. And we know Bam is going to make the videos awesome, because it's a video for a movie, therefore it HAS to be good. So stop complaining.
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write a new song to be featured in a movie?
just an idea. all these remakes are ridiculous. regardless ill listen to them. but its kind of going overboard. Sacrament doesnt need to be redone.
and is it kind of..weird. that Bam will be singing.
im gonna place bets right now.
itll be Bam and ville singing to each other on DFTR
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I'm surprised nobody's questioning this rumors legitimacy. It sounds like BS to me.
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no link? why do we even have a thread for this...
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(RM) = Remake
And the person said it was an interveiw with Bam from MTV2, and I also saw a post somewhere on here a couple days ago saying something about remakes but I forgot.
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I dont care, I like bams directing.
I dont like him that much though... his directing screen play and all that is good thouh
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no link? why do we even have a thread for this...
if one of us mods felt like it was useless we would have locked it already so in the mean while dont bash if you have nothing useful to say please keep it to yourself..
i talk to ryan gee from time to time on aim i will ask him whenever i talk to him next...
also i doubt that the new videoclips will be worked on any time soon BAM's time is being consumed by filming his new film MINGHAGS
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I'm surprised nobody's questioning this rumors legitimacy. It sounds like BS to me.
i so hope you're right,
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no link? why do we even have a thread for this...
Like I said, this was discussed in the Venus Doom topic. And because it is not about the new album, it would be a mess.
Stupid rumor or truth, people will discuss it, so that is why I made this topic.
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Enough with this stupid Bam bullshit. Get over yourselves seriously okay you don't like him. But it's a HIM remake of two songs a lot of people on this board appreciate it. He is probably just is the background vocals. It's not that big of a deal. And we know Bam is going to make the videos awesome, because it's a video for a movie, therefore it HAS to be good. So stop complaining.
I have no problem with Bam as a director and what not. I'm just a little iffy about his singing abilities.
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I have no problem with Bam as a director and what not. I'm just a little iffy about his singing abilities.
that's also what i thought... :-\
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I read on FUSE somewhere that their remaking Wicked Game! Only it's going to be called Wicked Gamer. Ville is writing new lyrics for it too!
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no link? why do we even have a thread for this...
if one of us mods felt like it was useless we would have locked it already so in the mean while dont bash if you have nothing useful to say please keep it to yourself..
i talk to ryan gee from time to time on aim i will ask him whenever i talk to him next...
also i doubt that the new videoclips will be worked on any time soon BAM's time is being consumed by filming his new film MINGHAGS
Hes working on 3 different movies.
MINGHAGS: I dont know the plot.
DREAMSELLER(look it up on IMDB.com: The life of Brandom Novak. The whole movie is Bam helping his friend trying to stop taking drugs and get back into skateboarding.
KISS A GOODMANS ASS(haggard 2):(heres the source:on the vivalabam season 5 dvd on the brazil episode's commentary they talk about it)PLOT: A kid(ryan sheckler) makes a invention that turns garbage into fruit juice, and 3 men(Brandom(BAM) Margera, Brandon Dicamillo and Brandon Novak)try to steal it from him. Valo will appear as both lead singer of HIM and a shopkeeper.
Kiss a goodmans ass is dead-in-a-water right now. Rabb himself is in france, Ryan dunn is Filming Homewrecker tv show, and novak is in rehab
Plus Valo is doing the Projekt Revolution Tour right now so....
and im srry everyone if i messed everything im just stating what i heard on TV and thought it was interesting so i put it on here
and to the dark light user: I HATE BAM MARGERA im just stating what he said
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I have no idea what to say, I hate bam prob. along with most of you here. I will give him credit for being a talented director. Stick with that, do not try to sing. But if Valo and the rest of the band confirmed this for sure then I will have faith in them and wait for them to be released!
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no link? why do we even have a thread for this...
if one of us mods felt like it was useless we would have locked it already so in the mean while dont bash if you have nothing useful to say please keep it to yourself..
i talk to ryan gee from time to time on aim i will ask him whenever i talk to him next...
also i doubt that the new videoclips will be worked on any time soon BAM's time is being consumed by filming his new film MINGHAGS
Hes working on 3 different movies.
MINGHAGS: I dont know the plot.
DREAMSELLER(look it up on IMDB.com: The life of Brandom Novak. The whole movie is Bam helping his friend trying to stop taking drugs and get back into skateboarding.
KISS A GOODMANS ASS(haggard 2):(heres the source:on the vivalabam season 5 dvd on the brazil episode's commentary they talk about it)PLOT: A kid(ryan sheckler) makes a invention that turns garbage into fruit juice, and 3 men(Brandom(BAM) Margera, Brandon Dicamillo and Brandon Novak)try to steal it from him. Valo will appear as both lead singer of HIM and a shopkeeper.
Kiss a goodmans ass is dead-in-a-water right now. Rabb himself is in france, Ryan dunn is Filming Homewrecker tv show, and novak is in rehab
Plus Valo is doing the Projekt Revolution Tour right now so....
and im srry everyone if i messed everything im just stating what i heard on TV and thought it was interesting so i put it on here
and to the dark light user: I HATE BAM MARGERA im just stating what he said
wrong KAGMA is on the back burner and dreamseller is scratched cause novak got hooked on heroin again..
and dunn and rabb are no longer part of the crew..
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I think the hate for Bam is well warranted. Bam is ruining HIM's credibility in the US. His videos are travesties. He slaps the heartagram on everything that is his. The band is unavoidably linked to Bam. He's giving HIM bad publicity. Bam doesn't bother me when he does his thing. Actually, I admire him in that respect, but it's when he gets involved in HIM's biz. It's like he gets special privlages because he's a celebrity. The only reason they've hired Bam multiple times before to direct videos and whatnot is because he is cheap...and a friend of Ville's. He doesn't even have a college degree, much less a high school education, to qualify for what he's been doing. His videos are fucking terrible. If you go back and compare them to the earlier videos, you'll see that the new ones are uninspired piles of shit.
I don't care if they're popular. It's when people like them for all the wrong reasons (ie Hot Topic). And Bam is BAD publicity. What they need to do is promote more...not just leave it up to Bam. Think about another band that you really like. What if some exasperating celebrity took it upon himself to promote that band by stealing their imagery and calling it his own. And from there on, everybody associated this band with that celebrity. It's just irritating that's all. You can't escape it. It deteriorates the band's credibility. It isn't just because it's Bam...I would be annoyed by it, be it the same situation, different celebrity.
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I think the hate for Bam is well warranted. Bam is ruining HIM's credibility in the US. His videos are travesties. He slaps the heartagram on everything that is his. The band is unavoidably linked to Bam. He's giving HIM bad publicity. Bam doesn't bother me when he does his thing. Actually, I admire him in that respect, but it's when he gets involved in HIM's biz. It's like he gets special privlages because he's a celebrity. The only reason they've hired Bam multiple times before to direct videos and whatnot is because he is cheap...and a friend of Ville's. He doesn't even have a college degree, much less a high school education, to qualify for what he's been doing. His videos are fucking terrible. If you go back and compare them to the earlier videos, you'll see that the new ones are uninspired piles of shit.
I don't care if they're popular. It's when people like them for all the wrong reasons (ie Hot Topic). And Bam is BAD publicity. What they need to do is promote more...not just leave it up to Bam. Think about another band that you really like. What if some exasperating celebrity took it upon himself to promote that band by stealing their imagery and calling it his own. And from there on, everybody associated this band with that celebrity. It's just irritating that's all. You can't escape it. It deteriorates the band's credibility. It isn't just because it's Bam...I would be annoyed by it, be it the same situation, different celebrity.
ummmmm
don't we have a like/dislike bam thread?
and well frankly, NO ONE CARES
you seem to be the only one who doesn't appreciate his directing abilities
so unless you can out direct him and get a budget large enough to do so
THEN get the band to let you direct their videos that get more play here for their own benefit
then, and only then, can you bitch about things as this.
:)
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I'm sorry. I didn't know I needed verification to address my opinion. Am I not allowed to show my concern just as much as you're allowed to express your excitement. No? Well, excuse me.
I wasn't trying to cause an arguement. My post was in response to the statement that the hatred for Bam was unwarranted.
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WTF!!!!!!!!!!
bam singing what a crappy shit >:(
i like the idea for dontfear the reaper i just wondered why him dont make a video with that song
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I think the hate for Bam is well warranted. Bam is ruining HIM's credibility in the US. His videos are travesties. He slaps the heartagram on everything that is his. The band is unavoidably linked to Bam. He's giving HIM bad publicity. Bam doesn't bother me when he does his thing. Actually, I admire him in that respect, but it's when he gets involved in HIM's biz. It's like he gets special privlages because he's a celebrity. The only reason they've hired Bam multiple times before to direct videos and whatnot is because he is cheap...and a friend of Ville's. He doesn't even have a college degree, much less a high school education, to qualify for what he's been doing. His videos are fucking terrible. If you go back and compare them to the earlier videos, you'll see that the new ones are uninspired piles of shit.
I don't care if they're popular. It's when people like them for all the wrong reasons (ie Hot Topic). And Bam is BAD publicity. What they need to do is promote more...not just leave it up to Bam. Think about another band that you really like. What if some exasperating celebrity took it upon himself to promote that band by stealing their imagery and calling it his own. And from there on, everybody associated this band with that celebrity. It's just irritating that's all. You can't escape it. It deteriorates the band's credibility. It isn't just because it's Bam...I would be annoyed by it, be it the same situation, different celebrity.
I disagree with you...the most recent videos that have been done since Bam has directed a HIM video have not been any better. The videos for WOAB and the American version of KL, I assume, had large budgets and college educated directors and they still sucked!!! You can't blame everything on Bam. It gets a little old.
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I disagree with you...the most recent videos that have been done since Bam has directed a HIM video have not been any better. The videos for WOAB and the American version of KL, I assume, had large budgets and college educated directors and they still sucked!!! You can't blame everything on Bam. It gets a little old.
I'll give you Wings, but I wholeheartedly believe both Killing Loneliness videos were better than anything Bam has done.
But I'll drop the discussion, because apparently I've offended/upset some people. I don't care for the guy when it comes to his collaborations with HIM, but that doesn't mean you and I can't still be friends. My intention wasn't to spark a baseless bashfest. I just thought we could have a mature conversation for argument sake. I apologize.
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I find it funny that you guys are all upset over something that probably isn't true.
Does anyone know why Raab and Dunn aren't around anymore?
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Dunn is a hollywood star nowadays...
rabb he just started hanging out with different crowds...
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Actually if you myspace message ryan dunn, his brother will answer. Eric Dunn.
he said that Ryan got tired of all the drama there supposedly was. And went his own direction.
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I think the hate for Bam is well warranted. Bam is ruining HIM's credibility in the US. His videos are travesties. He slaps the heartagram on everything that is his. The band is unavoidably linked to Bam. He's giving HIM bad publicity. Bam doesn't bother me when he does his thing. Actually, I admire him in that respect, but it's when he gets involved in HIM's biz. It's like he gets special privlages because he's a celebrity. The only reason they've hired Bam multiple times before to direct videos and whatnot is because he is cheap...and a friend of Ville's. He doesn't even have a college degree, much less a high school education, to qualify for what he's been doing. His videos are fucking terrible. If you go back and compare them to the earlier videos, you'll see that the new ones are uninspired piles of shit.
I don't care if they're popular. It's when people like them for all the wrong reasons (ie Hot Topic). And Bam is BAD publicity. What they need to do is promote more...not just leave it up to Bam. Think about another band that you really like. What if some exasperating celebrity took it upon himself to promote that band by stealing their imagery and calling it his own. And from there on, everybody associated this band with that celebrity. It's just irritating that's all. You can't escape it. It deteriorates the band's credibility. It isn't just because it's Bam...I would be annoyed by it, be it the same situation, different celebrity.
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Im glad they are redoing DFTR. that shit fucking sucked.
like, bad.
THey may make the sacrament better, who cares.
bam singing, that makes me giggle.
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*laughs self into tears*
This has to be a joke! Bam singing? *laughs harder*
And I think the videos he did were alot better than the newer ones. ALSN is really good. The newer KL sucked, bad. (Other than Kat being in it) WOAB Was ok, but could have been better. The idea was cool, but it turned out cheesy.
As for DFTR being redone, good. I was always disaponited with the way they covered it. The BOC oranigal has always been a huge favitve of mine. And a video for it sounds pretty cool.
Hmmm, re-made 'Halloween'? Cool.
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I love both DFTR and TS so I hope neither gets ruined.
Either way it should be interesting seeing and hearing what they become...
But Bam singing... Please say that's a joke
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This thread is a joke, rumors should be in the general discussion area of the forum, not news... I said HIM was re-recording Wicked Game. I have just as much proof as the person who started this rumor. Where's my thread? Think about it? Ville is going to re-make DFTR with new lyrics? No one in there right mind would butcher a classic like that, especially not Ville. Why would the label spend money on making videos for these songs? Are they going to be singles for Venus Doom?? The only logical part of this rumor is a video for the re-make of "Halloween", but even that isn't true. This rumor came from a user with 14 posts. Come on people... look at his other post, it's obvious he is just trying to get some attention.
"I heard it on mtv there was an interview with bam i dont think its true im just stating what someone else said"
I heard it on MTV, but I don't think it's true, just telling you what someone else said? WTF?
"i just heard on him online that there making revamped versions of THE SACRAMENT, WINGS OF A BUTTERFLY, WHEN LOVE AND DEATH EMBRACE and DONT FEAR THE REAPER. Plus, i cant wait to hear dead lovers lane"
ok... sure...
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when ive rumoured "the land of dark songs" i had 3 posts ;D no one here belived it and then ive uploaded the songs and everybody went "omfg where do u have them??? " ;D so.. .. can be a rumour become reallity
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Those songs were confirmed on many websites and discussed in this forum long before you even linked the website that had samples, so don't take credit for them. Either way, you actually had a link (proof) so it wasn't a rumor like this thread.
Your post on November 17th of last year
"Here you can listen sound samples of the album called "Synkkien Laulujen Maa" (The Land Of Dark Songs) where Ville Valo sings in a couple of songs, you can see also a couple of pics of him in the studio and with Kari Tapio. http://www.synkkienlaulujenmaa.fi/index_in.htm
source: himfinland.net forums"
( i saw no one posted this)"
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:D LOL
I'm just imagining Ville and Bam singing to each other in DFTR. :D
The sacrament, one of my favs, I just hope they dont crap on it.
and another remake of Wicked Game? great song, no arguments on that but gimme a break...
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Bam talked at length about Ville and HIM last night on his radio show, but didn't talk about any of this. He said that he saw Ville the other day for the first time in a long time, and they got wasted. He's heard the new album and is very giddy about it. Frantz made the comment that it's a lot more rocking than their last album. Bam told Ville that "Your pain makes me happy", to which Ville replied, "Shut the fuck up". Ville is apparently having issues with his love life again, and Venus Doom reflects that. The only other thing they mentioned was that while Ville and Bam were at club in LA, a paparazzi asked them what they think about Paris going to jail. Bam said that he really didn't care, so Ville chimed in, "They should give her the death penalty!" And apparently the two were photographed during an interview session, and both were so wasted that they were hanging all over each other. Bam said that he was kissing Ville at one point, and the photographer loved it. Apparently the two of them are still very much friends, but If anything we've heard about those remakes were true, im sure Bam would have said something.
You can download the show from http://www.ipacmm.com/radiobam/ (http://www.ipacmm.com/radiobam/), it's the 5-21 episode. They start talking about Ville around the 34 minute mark or so.
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Oui, just a minute
EDIT:Hopefully this part is all of it. Didn't listen to the rest
I cut the part from around minute 34 till 38.
http://media.thesacrament.net/x/HIMPartofRadioBam21052007.rar
EDIT2:
I forgot the upload from TheSac doesn't work for you. So:
http://rapidshare.com/files/32773309/HIMPartofRadioBam21052007.rar.html
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Bam talked at length about Ville and HIM last night on his radio show, but didn't talk about any of this. He said that he saw Ville the other day for the first time in a long time, and they got wasted. He's heard the new album and is very giddy about it. Frantz made the comment that it's a lot more rocking than their last album. Bam told Ville that "Your pain makes me happy", to which Ville replied, "Shut the fuck up". Ville is apparently having issues with his love life again, and Venus Doom reflects that. The only other thing they mentioned was that while Ville and Bam were at club in LA, a paparazzi asked them what they think about Paris going to jail. Bam said that he really didn't care, so Ville chimed in, "They should give her the death penalty!" And apparently the two were photographed during an interview session, and both were so wasted that they were hanging all over each other. Bam said that he was kissing Ville at one point, and the photographer loved it. Apparently the two of them are still very much friends, but If anything we've heard about those remakes were true, im sure Bam would have said something.
You can download the show from [url]http://www.ipacmm.com/radiobam/[/url] ([url]http://www.ipacmm.com/radiobam/[/url]), it's the 5-21 episode. They start talking about Ville around the 34 minute mark or so.
thanks for tell us
note: on radio faction bam page, on one date says "rare live track" i downloaded to see what was, and they just played pretending... is not rare, and its not live
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Well I saw this as I went into Blabbermouth and thought it was cute/ funny to note this in the middle of the Video the Band really shows they have a sense of humour and does not really have the same attitude over other Finnish Bands which are coming out to other scenes ...
http://fanblog.nightwish.com/main.site?action=siteupdate/view&id=2
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LOL I don't understand remaking The Sacrament or DFTR. Makes zero sense to me. Bam singing, lmao! That's a scary thought lol. I take everything Bam has to say with a grain of salt. We shall see what happens.
As for videos Bam directed, IMO I think he did a great job. Are they the best? No. But they are very pretty, captured Ville's beauty and hey, the making of's are totally hilarious! ;D
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so im bringing this back cuz im curious...when are we hearing these
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I think it was a lie.
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And the last time ~TheSacrament~ was active was 18 May
Since then I didn't found more information about the soundtrack
Not true, you can close it
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i really dont like such a lies....
good good...there is no "the sacrament" with bam... ;D
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Aside from Bam's marriage to Ville's cock.
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the Dont Fear The Reaper part of this rumor might be true
but i donno about Bam singing and the remake of The Sacrament......
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the Dont Fear The Reaper part of this rumor might be true
but i donno about Bam singing and the remake of The Sacrament......
Bam no....please
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the dont fear the reaper rumor is untrue. the tracklist for the halloween soundtrack was released and there was dont fear the reaper but by blue oyster cult
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I got all excited and then I read Blue Oyster Cult, that figures. :-\
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i think its going to be nice...
making a video for don't fear the reaper ;D
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But they aren't. You're just trying to gain posts quickly, aren't you?
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The Sacrament is a great song as it is. Don't understand why they are making a remake of it. Oh well, I hope these videos will be better than what they've made these years. Bam's voice will probably ruin the songs, hope it's a very short part which he plays.
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Read the posts above and you will see that they won't do a remake
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But they aren't. You're just trying to gain posts quickly, aren't you?
Hehe... :) I think you touched the spot!
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But they aren't. You're just trying to gain posts quickly, aren't you?
Hehe... :) I think you touched the spot!
lol
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didnt we already confirm this is a false rumor and that its not happening?
i wounldnt mind if it did happen though (not the bam part) but the Dont Fear the Reaper and Sacrament remix would of been cool. maybe for a Singles extra.
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good good...there is no "the sacrament" with bam... ;D
thank god... ;-)
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an updated dont fear the reaper could be nice
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Yeah, new version of Don't Fear The Reaper. What a pity it was only a lie...
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i think bam brings HIM down , if it wasn't for bam i don't think they would be playin HIM on the tv here in the states
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And how would that bring HIM down? Since when is publicity bad? Don't get me wrong, I despise Bam, but he has brought on a lot of fans for HIM... Besides you can't really blame HIM's success on Bam cause what if HIM was a really shitty band that he liked, that wouldn't change the fact that they were shitty. HIM was big before Bam and without him it would be the same. He might have helped in getting the word around in the US but that's about it... HIM's success comes to them because they are a great band with or without Bam.
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scottish graveyard,nice ;) ;)
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I think it's sad it's not true.. And I do not think that Bam is ruining HIM in the US. I wouldn't like him to sing in a HIM song, but I don't see anything wrong with him directing videos for the band.
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He can direct HIM videos, but because of Bam HIM have alot of fans who listen to their music only cause Bam does. And he stoled Heartagra...sorry, I mean Bam-o-gram...
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Well over here where I live, hardly anyone actually likes HIM.. It's all Bam this and Bam that,
theres actually only a couple of people here that appreciate the music of HIM, they either hate them, or listen to them cause they think it's cool to be like Bam.
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Bam + HIM = Fine. Things will only not be fine once HIM start to change thier music to suit the needs of these particular people (Bam followers, skaters etc.) but, I guess, even then - if the music is good, I couldnt care less. As long as they are doing what they want to do. I was once informed by some stupid guy that the only HIM album was Dark Light, i was like "Sure, if you dont count Greatest Lovesong, Razorblade Romance, Deep Shadows, and Love Metal - you jackass"
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It seems to me that Bam's trying to weasel his way into the band. Taking the liberty to re-make a 4-years-old video and re-name it, and then to get singing parts when he's not a fucking singer and his mushy-ass mouth can barely even string together a competent sentence? Fuck that. I probably won't even be able to watch the damn things.
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Don't worry about it. They aren't happening. This was just a retarded rumor.
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I can't believe people are still pissed about this. It's not happening, never was.