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Title: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: synninviemaa66 on February 25, 2007, 02:59:46 AM
Okay, we should have one topic for the new Album. This is what we know so far...

Revolver Magazine Credit: Lastxcallforsin

       To hear Valo describe it, the new HIM material does indeed sound exciting -- albeit markedly different from what fans of the poppy Dark Light may be expecting. “It’s like Black Sabbath’s Master of Reality meeting with My Bloody Valentine’s Loveless,” he says. “It’s going to be super melodic, and the vocals are going to be soft and sentimental, but the guitars are going to be in your face all the fucking time. We’ve been studying all our Black Sabbath albums and putting at least four excellent guitar riffs in every song. It’s like full-blown heavy metal for those headbangers who still want to hold a handkerchief in their hands, in case they might drop a tear. People are probably going to hate it, but we’ll see what happens,” he laughs.

       With most of the new songs already written, the band plans to began recording in March at a studio in Helsinki with Dark Light producer Tim Palmer behind controls. We're hoping to get Hiili Hiilesmaa, who was the producer on [2003's] Love Metal, to coproduce it with Tim," says Valo. "The two of them did a couple tracks of our compilation album, [2004's] And Love Said No, and they worked really well together. We're trying to sort that out now"

Song Titles Credit: Danny (Comes from Close Up Magazine)

Ville didn't want to mention anymore, for the element of surprise.

Album Release Date
September 18, 2007

Credit: JenX
Meanwhile, the band will begin recording their new album later this month at Finnvox studios in Helsinki, with producers Tim Palmer (Love Metal, Dark Light) and Hiili Hiilesmaa (Greatest Lovesongs Vol.666, Dark Light). This as-yet untitled album will be released worldwide sometime in July, while lucky Finnish festival-goers will be treated to a performance of new material at the Miljoona Rock festival and the following day at Ilosaarirock festival.


Look for singles to air at the upcoming festivals!
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: robertzombie on February 25, 2007, 05:18:57 AM
Hopefully those songs titles will change :-\
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Mike. on February 25, 2007, 05:34:40 AM
So gay...
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Daedalus on February 25, 2007, 12:57:40 PM
*mumbles whilst looking at the ground*
I actually like the title "Passion's Killing Floor"...
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Jerry Lee on February 25, 2007, 01:01:01 PM
Yeah. I go around killing floors, as a passion.

:-P
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on February 25, 2007, 01:33:13 PM
So gay...

My little brother uses that as his premier insult...

You can do better than that....right?
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: buddings on February 25, 2007, 02:11:53 PM
nothing really worries me in that paragraph except one name.....

TIM PALMER!! please not again  :(  just hili
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Danny on February 25, 2007, 05:47:05 PM
To Bender: The album titles was written in english in the mag :)
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: synninviemaa66 on February 25, 2007, 05:54:14 PM
Was there any other names for songs? Also, can you translate the article for us, or if it's in english copy it?
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Danny on February 25, 2007, 07:07:13 PM
Was there any other names for songs? Also, can you translate the article for us, or if it's in english copy it?
I`ll maybe get a scanner this week. So then i can scan the article,but that is just maybe. And i`m to lazy to translate a 7 page article. I dont even want to think about how long that is going to take, but i can write a litttle summary tomorrow and i will post in the article/interviews tread :)
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: vtioldlde on February 25, 2007, 08:38:16 PM
im hoping for the best ;D
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Mike. on February 26, 2007, 01:41:42 AM
So gay...

My little brother uses that as his premier insult...

You can do better than that....right?

Um, yeah.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Weemo on February 26, 2007, 07:22:07 AM
im hoping for the best ;D
And fear for the worst? Har har har (I know that's backwards, but whatever haha)
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Mike. on February 26, 2007, 12:28:13 PM
HIM is dead.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on February 26, 2007, 12:31:44 PM
HIM is dead.

Then why are you here?

I got hope, alot of it.  Us HIM fans are far too cynical.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: vtioldlde on February 26, 2007, 01:13:22 PM
Im full of hope and have a good feeling about this album.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Mike. on February 26, 2007, 01:43:33 PM
HIM is dead.

Then why are you here?

I got hope, alot of it.  Us HIM fans are far too cynical.

Because I have friends on here, douche bag. Nice user name by the way.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Jerry Lee on February 26, 2007, 03:19:30 PM
I have no need to have hope.

Because I know they can not disappoint me.

Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Tauriainen on February 26, 2007, 04:30:51 PM
HIM is dead.

Then why are you here?

I got hope, alot of it.  Us HIM fans are far too cynical.
Someone should stop the Beatles Forum than.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on February 26, 2007, 11:25:34 PM
If they are dead then keep posts in bullshit if you are excited yay for you. Either way I have beena die hard HIM fan since before most the people in this country and I know a few on here like Todd Jerry and Homer are some of the others. At least we are not shooting them down right away.

Back to the article. If its translated properly then Effing A right for heavier music. I am so excited to hear this. HIM will once again be heavy, melancholic, and dramatic just not dramatic and melancholic.

*REMINDER* HIM is very melancholic what the hell do you people expect them to sound like. SO don't wine they are dead when they almost consistantely sound the same with a few changes on every other album. Get over it. That's their sound and its here to stay whether we like it our not.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Alone I Break on February 27, 2007, 12:24:51 AM
people need to stop talking shit i dont want to go mexican on your asses everyone is entitled to their opinion Mike believes HIM is dead and sadly i agree with him until proven wrong..

so cut the bullshit everyone stop talking shit take it to PM's and stop the name calling aight?
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Mike. on February 27, 2007, 01:18:02 AM
I can see it now...

"HIM, with their new album *insert cheesy album title here*. Featuring the #1 hit in Estonia: Passions Killing Floor!

'oh girl, my heart is on passion's killing floor and you got a knife in your heart girl.'

and their new single, Bleed Well!

'girl I bleed well when you cut my heart oh girl I bleed well i bleed well'

In stores now!"
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on February 27, 2007, 09:10:39 AM
people need to stop talking shit i dont want to go mexican on your asses everyone is entitled to their opinion Mike believes HIM is dead and sadly i agree with him until proven wrong..

so cut the bullshit everyone stop talking shit take it to PM's and stop the name calling aight?
Amen to that shit :)
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: The Bloody Glove on February 27, 2007, 11:30:04 AM
HIM is dead.








Your Mom is Dead....
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on February 27, 2007, 01:18:42 PM
I see youwere speechless. Anyways can we go back to the topic at hand please?!
*clears throat*
the untitled album not bash eachother fest of 07
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on February 27, 2007, 05:36:39 PM
I can see it now...

"HIM, with their new album *insert cheesy album title here*. Featuring the #1 hit in Estonia: Passions Killing Floor!

'oh girl, my heart is on passion's killing floor and you got a knife in your heart girl.'

and their new single, Bleed Well!

'girl I bleed well when you cut my heart oh girl I bleed well i bleed well'

In stores now!"

Where did the insults come from? Sorry mate.

Username? Two HIM songs put together on a HIM forum...weird that.

Anyway, when does recording start?
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Alone I Break on February 27, 2007, 07:20:15 PM
would you seriously just shut up about it MATE seriously either you and mike stop that shit or im going beaner on some mofo's
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on February 27, 2007, 10:27:54 PM
Oh my this is the Bitch that doesn't end...Sing it with me now folks.. Yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started waving... Nevermind. OK anyway they are supposed to hit the recording studios sometime this month and one of the unofficial release dates is in July of this year. Here is the link to the thread where Jen X posted some articles about it. http://thesacrament.net/forum/index.php?topic=715.570 (http://thesacrament.net/forum/index.php?topic=715.570)

No be happy guys and stop the b.s. *MUAH*
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Violet on February 27, 2007, 11:25:30 PM
I'm just over joyed it's coming out sooner than I thought.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on February 28, 2007, 11:56:42 AM
Oh my this is the Bitch that doesn't end...Sing it with me now folks.. Yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started waving... Nevermind. OK anyway they are supposed to hit the recording studios sometime this month and one of the unofficial release dates is in July of this year. Here is the link to the thread where Jen X posted some articles about it. [url]http://thesacrament.net/forum/index.php?topic=715.570[/url] ([url]http://thesacrament.net/forum/index.php?topic=715.570[/url])

No be happy guys and stop the b.s. *MUAH*


Thanks
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on February 28, 2007, 06:47:02 PM
Your welcome my dear. Actually guys thank Jen for the origional info.

I am excited too I really hope HIM blows us all away..that is ofcourse in an awesome way with a bitvhin new cd!!!!
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on March 01, 2007, 06:55:03 AM
Your welcome my dear. Actually guys thank Jen for the origional info.

I am excited too I really hope HIM blows us all away..that is ofcourse in an awesome way with a bitvhin new cd!!!!

I have a good feeling about it, I didn't have a good feeling about Dark Light.  So maybe thats a sign  :P
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on March 01, 2007, 08:00:47 AM
Lets all pray that you are right. I agree with you though I feel much more positive about this album than I did about Dark Light
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Daedalus on March 01, 2007, 12:15:43 PM
I had a really good feeling about Dark Light, especially after hearing Vampire Heart and Killing Loneliness from RAR 2005.  It's not like Dark Light is bad...it's just not as good as any previous HIM albums. I still listen to Under The Rose and VH all the time. Just not so much any of the other songs!
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: vtioldlde on March 01, 2007, 12:49:59 PM
I knew DL was going ot be nothing to bark at once i seen them horrible NEW HEARTAGRAMS ahaha remember them
but i bit my lip and hoped for the best just hope I don't have to do it again!
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: LonelyRoad on March 01, 2007, 01:53:51 PM
yeah wtf was up with he 'new heartagram' shit makes no sense


by the way im going to your show michaelllll

cuz hopefully ill be doing guest vox for WA lol

but i doubt it cuz luis is a dummyhead sometimes...
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Solitary_Gurl on March 01, 2007, 06:40:53 PM
Lets all pray that you are right. I agree with you though I feel much more positive about this album than I did about Dark Light


im with you on that....although to be honest i do like the sound of the title Bleed Well....so what we all gotta do is just wait and see what happens...
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: The Bloody Glove on March 01, 2007, 10:17:20 PM
I think I figured it out. 

The reason they went with the tower as the album cover was a symbol for greed and big record companies.  And Dark means they have changed themselves to be more liked (sell out I know it hurts but It is true)

Light is what they plan to  do in the future and to return to their old style because Ville realized what he has done
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: LonelyRoad on March 01, 2007, 10:30:05 PM
doubt it.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on March 02, 2007, 12:38:34 AM
Who knows but yeah whats up with that new heartagram shit looks effing retarted like atwo year old drew it. I don't like it. Fuck that how can you up and change the heartagram its like prince changing his symbol to a fucking smiley face.Uggghhhh!!!
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: vtioldlde on March 02, 2007, 01:04:17 AM
I think I figured it out. 

The reason they went with the tower as the album cover was a symbol for greed and big record companies.  And Dark means they have changed themselves to be more liked (sell out I know it hurts but It is true)

Light is what they plan to  do in the future and to return to their old style because Ville realized what he has done

nice nice but you put way to much time into that one
still give u a +1
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Jerry Lee on March 02, 2007, 01:55:52 AM
I think I figured it out. 

The reason they went with the tower as the album cover was a symbol for greed and big record companies.  And Dark means they have changed themselves to be more liked (sell out I know it hurts but It is true)

Light is what they plan to  do in the future and to return to their old style because Ville realized what he has done

I don't know what the fuck you just said white boy...

But I respect you.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: whitetrashhobo on March 02, 2007, 04:03:51 AM
Im full of hope and have a good feeling about this album.

its good to see a veteran of this board have hope for HIM.

soo many years i have been a fan...

sorry i was reflecting haha
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Tauriainen on March 02, 2007, 04:38:49 PM
sorry i was reflecting haha

God, I hate cocky people.
That's only I masturbate to your photos 12 times a day.

Nice to see you around.
:)
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: The Bloody Glove on March 03, 2007, 05:01:10 AM
he he Just a Thought ::)
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on March 03, 2007, 11:08:45 AM
I agree with saying that Vampire Heart and Killing Loneliness hyped the album up alot...infact it over hyped it I think.

The end product was heartbreaking  :(

But I think interviews and other Ville based album updates are trying to say that the band is gonna make up for DL.

...Maybe.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on March 03, 2007, 03:24:41 PM
I agree with saying that Vampire Heart and Killing Loneliness hyped the album up alot...infact it over hyped it I think.

The end product was heartbreaking  :(

But I think interviews and other Ville based album updates are trying to say that the band is gonna make up for DL.

...Maybe.
Yes maybe so try not and lose all hope people. All bands go through bad patches some more than others. But where did all our faith go....I know out the window with DL for some of you. But hang in there I am sure something will turn for the good.   8) No worries.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: valos_lover on March 04, 2007, 04:42:36 PM
i hope the new album will b great.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Inferno on March 05, 2007, 08:27:09 AM
The song Titles sound good although I think they translated or type wrong "Passion's Killing Floor" I think it should be "Passion's Killing Ground". That just makes more sense.

Btw, I don't think I have seen the new heartagram... where can I find it? Is it the heartagram on DL or the winning one from the contest?
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on March 05, 2007, 02:53:39 PM
The song Titles sound good although I think they translated or type wrong "Passion's Killing Floor" I think it should be "Passion's Killing Ground". That just makes more sense.

Btw, I don't think I have seen the new heartagram... where can I find it? Is it the heartagram on DL or the winning one from the contest?

Im confused by that title also.  Is it official?

Either way, I just want the damn album..
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: monkeyboy32 on March 05, 2007, 02:57:34 PM
*mumbles whilst looking at the ground*
I actually like the title "Passion's Killing Floor"...

I'll say amen to that.  I think it's a great song title
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: deadalready on March 05, 2007, 04:27:06 PM
once a HIM fan always a HM fan no matter what
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on March 06, 2007, 12:02:13 AM
once a HIM fan always a HM fan no matter what
Couldn't have found a better way to put it. Kudos to you  :)
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Jay on March 06, 2007, 02:35:43 PM
I don't play attention to that "it's gonna be more like Sabbath" stuff anymore, because in the end, it won't be.  We'll never get another Razorblade Romance out of them, but we can hope for another Love Metal.

HIM should go electronic/industrial, or pop-punk.  Kidding!  If that doesn't work, they should get the Nickelback guy to help with song writing so all their songs will sound the same.  I will be MORTIFIED if HIM finally does a collaboration on this album and it turns out to be with someone from Fall Out Boy (or any of that style shit).  Kinda like when Avenged Sevenfold appeared on Good Charlotte's new track, solidifying their status as "a heavy Good Charlotte"
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Jerry Lee on March 06, 2007, 02:57:20 PM
Jay...

Do not jinx it!

:-P
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Violet on March 06, 2007, 06:25:11 PM
I don't play attention to that "it's gonna be more like Sabbath" stuff anymore, because in the end, it won't be.  We'll never get another Razorblade Romance out of them, but we can hope for another Love Metal.

HIM should go electronic/industrial, or pop-punk.  Kidding!  If that doesn't work, they should get the Nickelback guy to help with song writing so all their songs will sound the same.  I will be MORTIFIED if HIM finally does a collaboration on this album and it turns out to be with someone from Fall Out Boy (or any of that style shit).  Kinda like when Avenged Sevenfold appeared on Good Charlotte's new track, solidifying their status as "a heavy Good Charlotte"

OH DEAR GOD! *Screams and rips hair out* You're scarring the shit of me! They will NEVER do that! I hope.......
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Inferno on March 06, 2007, 10:42:53 PM
You guys really just make things worse by putting the band down, they know they messed up with DL and could have done a better job, but at least they did have a few solid songs... you all should give them at least a little credit for getting where they are now and just because of where they are now doesn't mean it will influence their music... I believe what Ville is saying about the next album and I have faith in them. It's hard and stressful being a musician, you go form a band and make as many albums as they have and try sticking with the same style the whole time.... it gets hard, so please have some faith in the band... they made one minor mistake and you guys are giving up on them already, have some respect.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Violet on March 07, 2007, 12:57:03 AM
Thank you! *high fives*
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Weemo on March 07, 2007, 07:34:01 AM
I won't make any judgements or assumptions until the I the album in my CD drive and have listened through completely.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on March 07, 2007, 04:30:20 PM
Haha Jay you practically almost created a mass suicide with your comment hahahaha!!!!
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: safe_hands on March 07, 2007, 06:02:33 PM
Personally I reckon Ville will turn do some Johnny Cash type thing after this album. I could just imagine him going solo and doing acoustic stuff, maybe some folky. Then coming back in a couple of years with a HIM album.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on March 07, 2007, 06:10:54 PM
Where did the love go for HIM?

I dunno eh?  ;D

It's gonna be good, mark my words.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: monkeyboy32 on March 11, 2007, 03:29:31 AM
HIM is dead.

why and how so?  wait and hear some of the new material before u judge
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on March 11, 2007, 04:43:14 PM
Wow this thread became nothing but a battle over who likes HIM ughhh!!! Lets just say people some of us have hope and some of us don't. So unless you have info on the New Album itself other than I love the idea of a new album.. or HIM is dead... Leave it here otherwise drop the mindless posts. Even I am tired of reading and posting in this thread. So lets role with the info people ^_^
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Violet on March 11, 2007, 05:29:34 PM
I secound that. *salutes*
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Jerry Lee on March 11, 2007, 06:26:41 PM
HIM isn't going anywhere. They are forever in my heart.

I keep in mind I will be 60,70,120 years old... and I will still have all these tattoos.

I doubt I will make it to 120 years old though. :(
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: monkeyboy32 on March 12, 2007, 03:28:21 AM
I secound that. *salutes*

I third it
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Alex on March 13, 2007, 07:46:33 AM
Bleed Well its sounds me cool but not and Passion Killing Floor. I have positive feeling about the new album but i have this feeling always before the release so i can just pray  this time to be  correct feeling :o
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Jack Sparrow on March 13, 2007, 09:33:45 AM

Passion Killing Floor,..  that sound like some Michael Jackson song title.   Anyway,   whatever or not the new album is great,  hard rock back to the beggining as stated by Ville,  I will surely will get it.   I love HIM's music and between all the crap that is sounding all around the world I think Ville and company are one of the best options out there.

Cheers!
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: NEGATIVE nancy (freewm3) on March 13, 2007, 10:50:08 AM
HIM isn't going anywhere. They are forever in my heart.

I keep in mind I will be 60,70,120 years old... and I will still have all these tattoos.

I doubt I will make it to 120 years old though. :(
tattoos are only gaurenteed 30 days after death.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Harker on March 14, 2007, 06:22:44 PM
Close up Magazine Translation:
http://community.livejournal.com/valo_daily/1768792.html

Quote
The producer for the next album is Tim Palmer, who mixed "Love Metal" and had the major responsebillity for "DarkLight". In march HIM enters the studio in Helsinki to start recording the next album.

- What to expect on the next album?
- It sounds dull, but it is true, everything bad that happend in 2006 made me dig deeper inside of myself and work with stuff, because of that it is a really really super personal thing that is on the next album. I try to hide it all on pseudo...(?) and spice it up with some sense of humour.

Villes favorite songs at the moment are "Bleed Well"
and another one is "Passion´s killing floor"
more titles are almoust done but can be changed during the journey so those he wants to keep to himself.

Behind one of them hides a lyric about sucide.
- As always it is very purifying, he says about the subject in the end, the lyric is something positive. When you are really desperate what do you do? the only way for me to get rid of the agony is to write a song and if I thought writing another bad idiotic boring 80-style goth rock song can live yet another day then I have fulfilled my mission. Everybody has their own way of handling life, for us it is music.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on March 14, 2007, 07:03:38 PM
I'd comment on what you posted, but there was no way I was going to read all of that....

The reference to My Bloody Valentine is promising and exciting to me.  But why must they study Black Sabbath albums?  Get over it!  Everyone is trying for that Sabbath sound nowadays....it's not all that interesting!  You shouldn't have to 'study' anything anyway......it really pissed me off that he said that.....goddamn it.

You know, it won't actually sound like Sabbath.  Its ideas, all bands have to do it.  Otherwise we would just get the same again, Dark Light II
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: monkeyboy32 on March 14, 2007, 07:36:55 PM
They have never sounded like Sabbath, even though they have mentioned in the past that they will...

And I don't think it's true that all bands 'study' other bands.....for the most part, the influence is in the subconcious of the members....most bands don't intentionally imitate a band, I would say.

My band never studied anyone and we don't sound like any other band in the world........... ;D

your band may not sound like any other band in the world but I bet another band in the world sounds like yours
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Inferno on March 14, 2007, 08:59:02 PM
They have never sounded like Sabbath, even though they have mentioned in the past that they will...

And I don't think it's true that all bands 'study' other bands.....for the most part, the influence is in the subconcious of the members....most bands don't intentionally imitate a band, I would say.

My band never studied anyone and we don't sound like any other band in the world........... ;D

Just because you are influenced by a band doesn't mean it will sound the same. It's like comparing 2 different songs from the same band... they won't sound the same no matter what because they are different songs. Same goes for this... they have a feeling that they get when listening to black sabbath's music and that's the same feeling they want to try to achieve in their own music, what's wrong with that? They just want to give their fans a chance to get the same feeling they got when they were just fans and were crazy about a band.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Violet on March 15, 2007, 09:22:03 PM
Well, that's a lovely name.

And Valo says weird things....like I read once somwhere that he said he didn't like doing duets. And how many has he done? So yeah, I'm sure he just meant they were being REMINDED of they're infulnces. Nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Inferno on March 16, 2007, 08:57:06 PM
Well, I've tried to make my point but have obviously failed.  I just didn't like the word 'study'. 

And he may not like to do duets, but he more than likely has to do whatever management says he has to do these days.....

Yes, it did say study but keep in mind that what was said was translated into english... some words could be off.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Daedalus on March 30, 2007, 10:35:56 PM
Play.com lists the new album's release date as July 2nd. It seems like it might be just a placeholder page, but why put a release date down if it's not right?

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/PROD/3-/3343244/New_Album_TBA/Product.html
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: SmokeAndMirrors on March 30, 2007, 10:48:25 PM
Hmmm. Could just be a target date if all things run smoothly. Whoever the webmaster of Heartagram is, they need to start updating more. I guess it's always been that way, though, but you'd think they'd at least announce the new Uneasy Listening on there.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: muschy on March 31, 2007, 01:19:38 PM
i highly doubt that the new album will be out in july im guessing late august.... dark light was supposed to come out in july and then it was pushed back to late september
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Daedalus on April 01, 2007, 04:35:25 AM
Dark Light was always (publically, anyways) meant for a Fall release.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Wille Wallo on April 03, 2007, 04:02:15 PM
Official HIM store says july release aswell.

http://www.recordstore.co.uk/him/
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: btbed on April 03, 2007, 09:37:20 PM
I'm excited for that new book coming out too!!
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Len777 on April 04, 2007, 05:14:44 PM
last week i orderd uneasy listening vol.2 , the him book, and the dark light tab book for guitar on amazon , i saw the tab book was done by hal leonard they always are right on the mark so i'll be able to see what tunings they really used on dark light. he he he
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: btbed on April 04, 2007, 06:44:56 PM
Holy jumpins!! You must be rich!! HAHAH!! I'm eyeing that book up!! Should be interesting. Those TAB books are great!!  :P
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: buddings on April 05, 2007, 04:55:26 PM
a love metal tab book would be worth buying. dark light however is easy enough to work out. but must admit it would be great for beginners
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: SmokeAndMirrors on April 06, 2007, 04:19:49 PM
H.I.M. frontman Ville Valo admits that 2005's Dark Light, his band's first proper U.S. release, was, well, too complex and confusing. Hence, the guys in the Finnish quintet — Bam Margera's favorite band — decided to simplify their goth-imbued sound for the tentatively titled Venus Doom, the LP they've been working on with producer Tim Palmer (Dredg, Ozzy Osbourne) in Helsinki.

"There were too many things going on," Valo said of the band's previous release. "[Venus Doom is] going to be a lot heavier than anything we've done before — that's the whole idea. It's like we're mixing My Bloody Valentine's Loveless with Metallica's Master of Puppets. ... There won't be as much ear candy on this one. There are a lot of riffs, and it's more guitar-oriented than keyboard-driven. Really, we just wanted to rock our own socks off."

But Valo doesn't characterize Venus Doom as a total departure for H.I.M., saying instead that the LP will still contain the singer's trademark brokenhearted lyricism (see "Finnish Rockers H.I.M. Say Everything They Do, They Do For Bam Margera").

"We wanted to make a really rockin' album — one that would explode your speakers," he said. "But we also wanted to maintain the melancholy aspects of love and loss in the lyrics and then have the really sweet vocals amidst this storm of guitars.

"Lyrically, it's about me losing a relationship and then actually regaining it, and losing my sanity and regaining it," Valo continued. "As you grow up, life gets more and more complex, even though when you're a kid you think things are going to get easier. It's like a f---ing puzzle that just keeps on having more and more pieces to it. It's very personal, this album. It's like me getting rid of my demons and putting the pain in the music. It's cathartic, and it's about cleansing yourself and trying to have the courage to take that one step further."

Valo penned one song, "The Kiss of Dawn," for a close friend who committed suicide soon after the band wrapped the recording sessions for Dark Light.

"It's been a tough year," Valo said with a sigh. "I'm not complaining at all. But I've had really sh---y things happen to me in my life, so this is definitely the darkest album we've done, lyrically. It's also a celebration of life. It's about remembering the ones you loved with a smile rather than being all dark and brooding and having hair in your face and trying to be Robert Smith from the Cure."

Other numbers slated for the album's final track list include "Love in Cold Blood," "Passion's Killing Floor" and "Dead Lovers Lane." And while Valo wouldn't confirm rampant rumors that his band will travel with Linkin Park this summer as part of the revived Projekt Revolution Tour (see "Linkin Park Finish Apocalyptic Album, Revive Projekt Revolution Tour"), he says the band will be touring the States around Venus Doom's July 10 release.

And what does Valo's old chum Bam think of the newest H.I.M. material? Well, he hasn't heard a note yet, but the singer did express a desire to work with Margera: He said he'll ask the "Jackass" star to direct the clip for the album's first single. But he hasn't approached Bam to discuss a collaboration just yet.

"We have to finish the damn thing first," Valo said, adding that the entire LP should be in the bag within the next few weeks.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Danny on April 06, 2007, 04:31:53 PM
Where did you get this information from?
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: lastxcallforsin on April 06, 2007, 05:24:05 PM
Some of those song titles sound cheesy, but fuck! July 10th isn't that far away! Hopefully there is still some catchy keyboard bits, along with the "heavy" stuff. 
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Daedalus on April 06, 2007, 06:32:35 PM
Hmmm...the album is called "V.D." I'm not sure what to think of that! I like the sound of it though. Very forboding.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Violet on April 06, 2007, 06:52:10 PM
OH YEAH! *dose happy dance* I can't wait! I can't wait!
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Tauriainen on April 06, 2007, 08:54:33 PM
This Interview is couple of days old last I remember hearing, Ville decided to do some interviews, expect some on couple of independent magazines.
Cory beat me to it, I heard the news in a Finnish Magazine but I got lazy to mention it.
There were some Entwine News and I was more interested in that than even mentioning HIM.
:P
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Sucubus666 on April 06, 2007, 10:27:24 PM
hmmmm sounds a lot like dio with better lyrics!
*walks off singing "holy diver, you've been down....."*
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Violet on April 06, 2007, 11:44:05 PM
Actally it's "Holy Driver, You've been out too long in the midnight sea. Oh something is calling for me."
Sorry...Dio fan...I'm going to go see him with Sabbath in a few weeks..hehehehehe...
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Sucubus666 on April 07, 2007, 09:32:25 AM
hahaha, i may be a retard, but when it comes to classic rock i'm fucking god.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on April 07, 2007, 04:01:59 PM
I'm finally happy with what I'm reading. The song titles aren't bad, and "Venus Doom" is bizarre enough to make me feel cool again.

I'm so thankful the band decided to go toward a harder sound. Granted, I remember hearing that Dark Light would be a "punkier" album. So lets not count our cards before they're delt.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Jerry Lee on April 07, 2007, 04:38:09 PM
Honestly. I like it.

It may not be as sentimental as their past. But I know Ville will show the feelings in the lyrics as usual. But not as bad as Dark Light (good album, just didn't take their time).

I am sure it will sound good.

Can't wait for a demo of some sort. Or a live song.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: dahaka on April 07, 2007, 05:48:52 PM
I think it will be an improved GLV666 , because that one is quitar oriented but not in a progressive way like love metals soul on fire or babl. It's kinda doom. Best album so far in my opinion. Lets hope it will be great  :)
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: btbed on April 07, 2007, 07:06:57 PM
Thats awsome. Thank you for that article Jen X  ;D
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Razorblade kiss on April 07, 2007, 07:41:09 PM
hmm i think he throwing people of the scent with all these track names and the album name they sounds like b sides to dark light by there names

i mean ''the heartless'', ''join me'', ''poison girl'', ''i love you'', ''funeral of hearts'' there all to the point names but then dark light went all subliminal pfft
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: btbed on April 07, 2007, 08:30:02 PM
I can't wait if it's really gonna be out in July!! 
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Tauriainen on April 07, 2007, 09:21:05 PM
I can't wait if it's really gonna be out in July!! 
Well with the Post so far, you can download it.
Well maybe not, if Jay is serious about the 4000 post, than he might be the only one who can "download" it without an external link placed I highly doubt any of us could.
:P
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Lujja on April 08, 2007, 03:39:41 AM
july 10...  :o

OMG! i cant wait... ¬¬

well, the new songs names sounds so cut veins... ville isn't happy ... he can commit a suicide someday...

the Tentatively Title of this album... Venus Doom... I Like It ^^

if you don't know some names of this album... here is the completed tracks
- Love in cold Blood
- The Kiss Of Dawn
- Dead Lover's Lane
- Bleed Well
- Passion Killing Floor

all album must be ready in this weeks...
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Sucubus666 on April 08, 2007, 09:50:45 AM
what was the point of posting...really, if they wanted to know the track names they could have gone back a page.
And he isn't going to fucking kill himself jackass, lyrics are always on the dark side. If you go by that way of thinking, every death metal band out there are going to kill themselves also.
Don't be stupid.
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: Harker on April 08, 2007, 10:54:21 AM
well, the new songs names sounds so cut veins... ville isn't happy ... he can commit a suicide someday...

Why are you waiting? Go save him!
Title: Re: New Untitled Album
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on April 08, 2007, 05:17:12 PM
what was the point of posting...really, if they wanted to know the track names they could have gone back a page.
And he isn't going to fucking kill himself jackass, lyrics are always on the dark side. If you go by that way of thinking, every death metal band out there are going to kill themselves also.
Don't be stupid.
Amen to that shit, finally some words of wisdom woot!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: btbed on April 09, 2007, 04:03:16 PM
Is the albums release date of July 10th Official??
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on April 09, 2007, 04:05:37 PM
Yes. For now, anyways. It could change.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Violet on April 09, 2007, 05:42:07 PM
I think Ville's writing gets better with each alumb, and I'm more than exited over VD. The name Tim Pamler scares the shit out of me, but hopfully it won't be the mixing murder of DL.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on April 09, 2007, 09:26:05 PM
Venus Doom?

Come on...this is the best they could do for the album title?

Dead Lover's Lane and Love in Cold Blood sound so much better in my opinion.

Nonetheless, we should start searching for demos/samples now.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on April 10, 2007, 08:11:17 AM
lol it kinda sounds they were trying to fit their own genre and please fans again with Venus Doom, and i mean please fans in the stupid way like they did with the KL vids ::)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on April 10, 2007, 09:46:13 AM
Venus Doom reminds me of a Cathedral album. Hopefully this will be a bizarre enough title to make Americans scratch their head.

The album better be hard. I am in desperate need of some really rocking HIM songs. Hopefully Ville stops doing that nasily thing with his voice, and keeps it low. Then he can unleash the Billy Idol scream.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on April 10, 2007, 12:30:33 PM
I still can't get over the title...it irks me.  That's right, irks me.


*sigh* As long as the contents rock, I'll be okay with referring to Penus Doom as "the new one."  Or VD...that'd be a cool campaign "Contract VD on July 10th 2007!"

And yes, I know I didn't spell "penis" right.  I met this set of twins that were named Venus and Penus and the parents didn't think it was a problem because they didn't spell it like the body part.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: NEGATIVE nancy (freewm3) on April 10, 2007, 04:37:01 PM
I already have VD and let me tell you it rocks!
1. prove it.
2. upload it
3. if you wont upload it, dont tell us
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on April 10, 2007, 05:04:49 PM
My guess is that the UK will get VD before the US. 

Lots of abbreviations there...So yes my dear Jen, fret not...you will have VD soon enough.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on April 10, 2007, 05:48:33 PM
lol have faith dear children, VD does rock indeed. but to share would be unselfish, and that my younglings, is not the way of the illinois....ians.....yeah
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on April 10, 2007, 05:49:53 PM
Okay I have been out of town the past two days, why does everyone want Venereal disease? ???


Just kidding. :)

The newest song by HIM "Venus Fly Traps Catches Our Hearts"

I'm kidding again.

But seriously. I have this feeling I know the meaning of "Passions killing floor"

You know, like a hotel floor? It could mean like... the 13th floor.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on April 10, 2007, 05:52:48 PM
ummmm no?

killing floor....kinda like grounds on which someone would be killed, aka.....cheating.....crimes of passion....death
ummmm
banana
square
speaker wire
hand sanatizer
m-98 explosives
ok i'm done.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on April 10, 2007, 06:00:24 PM
Caleb I was trying to bring out my emo half.

You fucked it up.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on April 10, 2007, 06:05:58 PM
emo isn't welcome on this thread buddy. hahahaha
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on April 10, 2007, 06:54:52 PM
Jerry why the sudden urge to be emo?? This worries me lol
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on April 10, 2007, 09:30:22 PM
But seriously. I have this feeling I know the meaning of "Passions killing floor"

You know, like a hotel floor? It could mean like... the 13th floor.
Ville wanted to tell a Story of a Flower Pot which cut its life short by giving it to you Directly (I swear if you guys make a disease joke out of this... tell me, because I can't).
I know my personal Fetish is throwing stuff at people's door steps.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: muschy on April 10, 2007, 10:28:33 PM
the names of these songs do not strike as much fear in my heart as the names for the songs of dark light did back in the summer of 05

that sentence was ridiculous and full of prepositions
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on April 12, 2007, 10:31:10 AM
So Venus Doom is supposedly the heaviest HIM album yet? Isn't that what they said about Dark Light early on?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Wille Wallo on April 12, 2007, 11:35:43 AM
I don't remember anyone saying the whole album was the heaviest thing, but that some of the songs were the heaviest they have done. Wich could be true, alot of stuff get's lost in the editing.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on April 12, 2007, 08:19:47 PM
so last night while i was drunk of my ass as it seem to be every night for a month now i was thinking about the title for the new album and i was thinking doesnt the saying say man are from mars woman are from venus?

venus doom = femaloes doom?

i dont i look to much into things when im drink  :-\
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SmokeAndMirrors on April 12, 2007, 08:27:24 PM
Huh? ???
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: vtioldlde on April 12, 2007, 11:57:46 PM
so last night while i was drunk of my ass as it seem to be every night for a month now i was thinking about the title for the new album and i was thinking doesnt the saying say man are from mars woman are from venus?

venus doom = femaloes doom?

i dont i look to much into things when im drink  :-\
i read this and was like wtf??? then i was like venus doom? women???joanna??? yea ohh shit makes sense i guess?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on April 13, 2007, 12:09:35 AM
so last night while i was drunk of my ass as it seem to be every night for a month now i was thinking about the title for the new album and i was thinking doesnt the saying say man are from mars woman are from venus?

venus doom = femaloes doom?

i dont i look to much into things when im drink  :-\
i read this and was like wtf??? then i was like venus doom? women???joanna??? yea ohh shit makes sense i guess?

about time someone got the point
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Violet on April 13, 2007, 12:37:45 AM
Oh Oh Oh Oh...I got it too! *claps* I'm not a bonehead!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on April 13, 2007, 08:29:08 AM
*sighs*
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on April 14, 2007, 06:22:56 PM
Well Venus Doom doesn't necessarily mean Female Doom. Venus is traditionally the god most synonomus with the female, and Valo has used references to it in "The Funeral Of Hearts" and obviously "Venus (In Our Blood).

Granted, the goddess Venus is also one of the gods generally associated with many of the current conspiray theories involving Jesus and the Church. So he may be referencing that.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Violet on April 14, 2007, 08:26:18 PM
Well, yeah. But it could mean that. It could also just mean end of love, since Venus is also the goddess of love. Or the whole yin yag thing HIM loves so much, evil and good, love and hate. You know, the useal.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mat1az on April 18, 2007, 02:56:54 AM
Love and hate? Didn't Ville want it to be Love and Death?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on April 18, 2007, 08:34:20 AM
Well, yeah. But it could mean that. It could also just mean end of love, since Venus is also the goddess of love. Or the whole yin yag thing HIM loves so much, evil and good, love and hate. You know, the useal.

dun dun dun
finally.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: muschy on April 18, 2007, 12:55:19 PM
yeah thats what it has to be... either way, im not a big fan of the title...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Violet on April 18, 2007, 04:33:17 PM
They've had better titles. But I think it's kind of cool.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on April 18, 2007, 05:07:05 PM
I didn't like it.

But I do now.  From what we know about the sound and genre of the album (the rougher, darker, doomier sound) it seems "Venus Doom" is a good way of making you get that feel for the album.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: koohai on April 21, 2007, 08:32:32 AM
Well, yeah. But it could mean that. It could also just mean end of love, since Venus is also the goddess of love. Or the whole yin yag thing HIM loves so much, evil and good, love and hate. You know, the useal.

dun dun dun
finally.

It seems to me that Ville is only looking for 2 words to form an oxymoron and make up a title out of them. As always, it's the same old story.  ;D
But this doesn't mean that I don't like this title...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on April 21, 2007, 11:12:16 AM
Love and hate? Didn't Ville want it to be Love and Death?

They are basically the same thing. It all stems from "fear and love."
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: spiritual woman on April 23, 2007, 04:59:22 PM
Well, yeah. But it could mean that. It could also just mean end of love, since Venus is also the goddess of love. Or the whole yin yag thing HIM loves so much, evil and good, love and hate. You know, the useal.

dun dun dun
finally.

It seems to me that Ville is only looking for 2 words to form an oxymoron and make up a title out of them. As always, it's the same old story.  ;D
But this doesn't mean that I don't like this title...


Ville has the greatest sense of humour and his intelligence always shines throiugh. Don't you get it Venus (Goddess of Love) = Love and Doom is a genre of Metal so it is just another way of saying 'Love Metal' just a play on words so maybe he is hinting it is a return to that style of album let's wait and see.........
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on April 23, 2007, 07:53:13 PM
Venus Doom sounds like a tragic after story of a painful shit gone bad.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on April 23, 2007, 10:07:45 PM
Venus Doom sounds like a tragic after story of a painful shit gone bad.
Or it could be a title HIM stole from themselves.
Their B Side shows that idea as it is.

Plus the idea if him saying that it will be the loudest Pop Album you have heard kind of makes me want to pick up Avril Lavigne's album and rock to that one better.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on April 24, 2007, 10:11:00 AM
(http://a459.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/13/m_8333ebba0e71c9738beda51676759a1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on April 24, 2007, 11:13:01 AM
is that official?? and if so wheres it from? cheers :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on April 24, 2007, 11:15:06 AM
lol official date or cover? cuz i doubt it's the cover.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Spooky Kabuki on April 24, 2007, 11:35:22 AM
lol official date or cover? cuz i doubt it's the cover.

I'm doubting both for now.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on April 24, 2007, 12:06:28 PM
I was excited for Dark Light to come out and honestly it was a good album but could be better. Long time HIM fans need something to ROCK to now play the music while trying to fall asleep. Im a huge fan just like everyone else on this forum and i think we need something to turn up our volume, roll down our car windows and let the world know that HIM is alive!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on April 24, 2007, 03:16:31 PM
Defiantly not the official cover, date... maybe.


The cover, will have a dark scene... there will be a guy walking away from his dead lovers grave, and there will be a psychedelic moon.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on April 24, 2007, 04:17:49 PM
*coughproveitcough*
hahaha
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on April 24, 2007, 09:23:56 PM
Defiantly not the official cover, date... maybe.


The cover, will have a dark scene... there will be a guy walking away from his dead lovers grave, and there will be a psychedelic moon.

We should start a new fake cover thread.  My favorite Dark Light cover was the one I made that had a black man grabbing a white girl's ass and her grabbing his ass.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on April 24, 2007, 09:56:28 PM
lol I agree.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on April 25, 2007, 05:35:59 AM
Spiritual Woman def. got the right idea kudos to you^_^ +1
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on April 25, 2007, 09:50:56 AM
The thing Svenia Amore posted is a promotional sticker for Venus Doom. It was posted in the official heartagram forums the day the VD name was released on mtv.com. The cover it ain't, but the date is correct, July 10.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Wille Wallo on April 25, 2007, 08:42:22 PM
I think venus doom will stay the name of the cd, but mark my words it won't be out by the 10th. If it is i'll be the happiest idiot alive, but i just don't see it happening.

This is the best time to be a music fan. All this speculation that just get's you all excited. The one thing i enjoyed about dark light was the media coverage. Since it was produced in the states the states got the majority of the coverage.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on April 25, 2007, 08:56:04 PM
Well, yeah. But it could mean that. It could also just mean end of love, since Venus is also the goddess of love. Or the whole yin yag thing HIM loves so much, evil and good, love and hate. You know, the useal.

dun dun dun
finally.

It seems to me that Ville is only looking for 2 words to form an oxymoron and make up a title out of them. As always, it's the same old story.  ;D
But this doesn't mean that I don't like this title...


Ville has the greatest sense of humour and his intelligence always shines throiugh. Don't you get it Venus (Goddess of Love) = Love and Doom is a genre of Metal so it is just another way of saying 'Love Metal' just a play on words so maybe he is hinting it is a return to that style of album let's wait and see.........
dont hold your breath on that
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on April 25, 2007, 09:00:00 PM
I think venus doom will stay the name of the cd, but mark my words it won't be out by the 10th. If it is i'll be the happiest idiot alive, but i just don't see it happening.


Why wouldn't it? Ville just mentioned in the new Kerrang that the album is ahead of schedule and will be done in three weeks.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on April 26, 2007, 12:45:19 PM

This is the best time to be a music fan. All this speculation that just get's you all excited. The one thing i enjoyed about dark light was the media coverage. Since it was produced in the states the states got the majority of the coverage.

personaly i miss the days when the "states" and "HIM" had nothing to do with eachother
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on April 26, 2007, 08:44:48 PM

This is the best time to be a music fan. All this speculation that just get's you all excited. The one thing i enjoyed about dark light was the media coverage. Since it was produced in the states the states got the majority of the coverage.

personaly i miss the days when the "states" and "HIM" had nothing to do with eachother

When the Band was in a panic because their Drummer left the band before a Tour?
When they called out Seppo to bail out someone from Prison in their tighties.
When the Band was at each others throats.
When some Skateboarder with A.D.D. thought to himself "I can immitate this guy!".
When some guy said to himself, "Why don't I repeat the Construction of writing for all of my Songs?".
When someone decided that Money didn't really matter that it was all about the Fans?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Wille Wallo on April 26, 2007, 11:02:04 PM
I think venus doom will stay the name of the cd, but mark my words it won't be out by the 10th. If it is i'll be the happiest idiot alive, but i just don't see it happening.


Why wouldn't it? Ville just mentioned in the new Kerrang that the album is ahead of schedule and will be done in three weeks.


Because there is alot more to albums then the music sadly. I hope to god i'm wrong. I really REALLY do, but i just don't think it will be out by then.



As far as my comment about the states....

For the longest time i had to pay 2 to 3 times the price for HIM cd's. I live in the middle of podunk idaho. I had to pay 45 bux for the singles collection, and 30 for greatest love songs. It was a VERY nice to change to have HIM become semi mainstream. In the states anyway it was much easier for me to keep track of them. I have been listening to HIM ever since i first heard join me 4 years ago.

HIM is all about the music for me. I don't care who else listens to them. I don't care if they don't like me. I just love the music they produce and will continue to do so for the rest of my life.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: nirvanist22 on April 29, 2007, 02:44:31 PM
if this album isn't fucking fantastic i'm done with waiting for new HIM music. i'm sorry, Dark Light let me down.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on April 29, 2007, 05:05:23 PM
if this album isn't fucking fantastic i'm done with waiting for new HIM music. i'm sorry, Dark Light let me down.

Dead Lovers Lane is a good reason to be excited apparently.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on April 29, 2007, 05:14:27 PM
Keep in mind dead lovers lane is supposedly the most "dark light" sounding song on venus doom.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: The_Panch on April 29, 2007, 09:57:42 PM
waiting for that cd so bad
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: vtioldlde on April 29, 2007, 10:40:09 PM
remember when DL was coming out how we all made different covers? well if its not already made, someone should make a thread where this can take place.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on April 29, 2007, 10:41:07 PM
remember when DL was coming out how we all made different covers? well if its not already made, someone should make a thread where this can take place.


Here you go.  It's still a fun idea. http://thesacrament.net/forum/index.php?topic=2261.0
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: spiritual woman on April 30, 2007, 12:08:11 PM
if this album isn't fucking fantastic i'm done with waiting for new HIM music. i'm sorry, Dark Light let me down.

Well I went to see them in London on Friday night and they did a new number and well lets just say it didn't set the crowd on fire and I can't even remember it as it was so unspectacular and just to add I hope that  by the time they get to the states they are actually putting some effort into their live show. He looked like a tramp and they might as well have hung up a back drop which said 'what bit of fuck off don't you understand' because it seemed to me that they were trying to kill the band although may have been implying that HIM were already dead as they came on to the funeral march!!! It was seriously the worst gig I have ever seen in my life by anyone and I shall not be  gracing Mr. Valo with my magical presence anytime in the forseeable future. They need to learn a bit of professionalism and a lot of their fanbase need to be a bit more critical and have slightly higher expectations of them.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ForAllTid on April 30, 2007, 03:35:17 PM
HIM never really had a spectacular live show. Gas and Mige are the only ones who ever seem to be into it......they're a boring band live
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Drewbob on April 30, 2007, 03:58:34 PM
HIM never really had a spectacular live show. Gas and Mige are the only ones who ever seem to be into it......they're a boring band live

i'd assume most people go to heard ville's voice, not necessarily the energy the band gives off.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on April 30, 2007, 04:01:54 PM
if this album isn't fucking fantastic i'm done with waiting for new HIM music. i'm sorry, Dark Light let me down.

Well I went to see them in London on Friday night and they did a new number and well lets just say it didn't set the crowd on fire and I can't even remember it as it was so unspectacular and just to add I hope that  by the time they get to the states they are actually putting some effort into their live show. He looked like a tramp and they might as well have hung up a back drop which said 'what bit of fuck off don't you understand' because it seemed to me that they were trying to kill the band although may have been implying that HIM were already dead as they came on to the funeral march!!! It was seriously the worst gig I have ever seen in my life by anyone and I shall not be  gracing Mr. Valo with my magical presence anytime in the forseeable future. They need to learn a bit of professionalism and a lot of their fanbase need to be a bit more critical and have slightly higher expectations of them.

I've seen video from that show and the band doesn't come across any different than usual. Granted, they aren't as energetic on stage as they were back in the Razorblade era, but it's not like they were all just standing there like a high school band who has no idea what to do. There also seemed to be a pretty decent reaction to the new song, Dead Lovers' Lane...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on April 30, 2007, 05:14:59 PM
Keep in mind dead lovers lane is supposedly the most "dark light" sounding song on venus doom.

And if I remember correctly, two years ago we were all told Play Dead would have a "punky" vibe to it.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on April 30, 2007, 05:33:12 PM
would be good if theres heaviers song the dead lovers but i dont mind
any new material is good just depends how good
Title: Dead Lovers Lane lyrics
Post by: Inferno on April 30, 2007, 11:53:24 PM
This day has been faint
All these wounds we made are real
But she's going enslaved
All old loves around her will
Fill her heart all over again

Cold and dead lovers lane
On razors edge we sing
A song of blood right out of my heart

???
???
???

These words never fail
???
??? start again

Cold and dead lovers lane
On razors edge we sing
A song of blood right out of my heart

Scream out loves name in vain
The razor's due again
And our sorrow's in the dark
Dead lovers lane

A song of blood right out of my heart

Right out of my heart


Discuss...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on May 01, 2007, 05:57:37 AM
oh my i dunno what to say here. I am in between. I just hope the new album sounds good...if not i will be very disappointed.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: smedlock on May 01, 2007, 06:34:51 AM
i love how dead lovers lane sounds....but really watever they do i'm backing them all the way...i jst have really high hopes now after dll
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on May 01, 2007, 06:54:21 AM
yes keeping the faith brother lol....
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: spiritual woman on May 01, 2007, 11:17:12 AM
HIM never really had a spectacular live show. Gas and Mige are the only ones who ever seem to be into it......they're a boring band live

i'd assume most people go to heard ville's voice, not necessarily the energy the band gives off.

Well it might have helped if he had sung a bit more then - and his voice was crap when he did.  And it doesn't seem to have got any better on the other two nights. Go to youtube and have a look.

I have seen HIM quite a few times and there is a difference between stilllness and idle arrogance. Check out on one of the other nights when he let the audience sing an entire verse of a song while he was lighting himself a fag!!! And from the replies I have had to my original post I reiterate what I said then - HIM fans need to be a little bit more objectively critical and have higher expectations of the band as I think that this is part of the reason we are getting these performances.  The band know when they are crap as Ville admitted about this New Year with which I totally agree and commented on at the time but most fans thought that Tavastia was 'fantastic'.!! It is a bit like a love affair - when you have fallen out of love and your partner hasn't you just see how crap you can treat them to see just how much they will take and in the process lose all respect for them. I think that the band have lost respect for most of their fans and I can't say I blame them when it is clear that they can come on and do any old shit and behave anyway they like and their fans will still say they are great.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on May 01, 2007, 03:36:27 PM
I agree with you. Dead Lover's Lane sounds pretty interesting, but Ville's performance is so weak compared to the older concerts. That is why I don't see HIM live anymore haha.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on May 01, 2007, 10:40:13 PM
We should all gang up on Ville and kick his ass.

"Stop being a little pussy! AND NO MORE RED TIES BITCH!!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on May 02, 2007, 01:00:46 AM
Hahahaha!!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Violet on May 02, 2007, 04:24:12 AM
We should all gang up on Ville and kick his ass.

"Stop being a little pussy! AND NO MORE RED TIES BITCH!!!

And while we're at it we'll shave him! MUHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on May 02, 2007, 04:29:29 PM
Actually his look in the "Summer Wine" video is one of the only things I currently like about Ville.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Razorblade kiss on May 02, 2007, 05:39:39 PM
nah dsbh look all the way, rr look was cool but alot thought it was camp
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Violet on May 02, 2007, 07:22:21 PM
*high fives* DSABH look all the way! WOOT!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on May 02, 2007, 07:51:10 PM
Actually his look in the "Summer Wine" video is one of the only things I currently like about Ville.


And even that look is changed now. :-*
(http://i16.tinypic.com/6hf59b6.jpg) (http://i16.tinypic.com/6hf59b6.jpg)
Credit: Vajokki, ValoDaily
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on May 02, 2007, 08:09:47 PM
Hmm I like the one on the right then the middle ^_^
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on May 02, 2007, 10:14:48 PM
I like the middle but then again there is just something about the one on the right that has this mysterious feeling to it.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on May 03, 2007, 02:30:11 PM
I don't like the one on the right as much...

I'm not sure about the other two. They're both nice :D

Actually I was just thinking that his current tash & beard convo is rather similar to Billy Connolly's...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on May 04, 2007, 07:58:45 AM
Inferno knows what its all about ^_^
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: valo66.6 on May 07, 2007, 08:55:01 PM
CAN NEONE FIGURE OUT THE LYRICS TO DEAD LOVERS LANE... or know if there online newhere yet
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on May 07, 2007, 08:58:22 PM
CAN NEONE FIGURE OUT THE LYRICS TO DEAD LOVERS LANE... or know if there online newhere yet

This is all I've managed to comprehend...

This day has been faint
All these wounds we made are real
But she's going enslaved
All old loves around her will
Fill her heart all over again

Cold and dead lovers lane
On razors edge we sing
A song of blood right out of my heart

Those words never fail

Cold and dead lovers lane
On razors edge we sing
A song of blood right out of my heart

Scream out love's name in vain
The razor's due again
And our sorrow's in the dark
Dead lovers lane

A song of blood right out of my heart

Right out of my heart
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: valo66.6 on May 07, 2007, 09:00:19 PM
THANK U A FUCKIN MILLION ...more then i got out of it
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: valo66.6 on May 07, 2007, 09:13:50 PM
is that the only song u can get or what ?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on May 07, 2007, 09:19:32 PM
For now, until they play more festivals.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: valo66.6 on May 07, 2007, 09:23:19 PM
ok kewl....i cant wait for this new ablum tho....my god im sooo fuckin pumped for it......YEAAaAA BOoOiIIIIIii or in the words of rick flair.. WoOOoOoOoOooOooo
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on May 07, 2007, 09:36:36 PM
5 bucks says razor isn't in the song at all  ::)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on May 07, 2007, 09:43:48 PM
You never know... that's just what I can make out and that the closest word to what I hear. When we get a better recording we'll know for sure.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: valo66.6 on May 07, 2007, 10:33:21 PM
well the lyrics make sense to me...at least someone fuckin is tryin...is that all some u fuckers do is complain n be like razor is not in it blah blah blah....like wtf is wrong wit u ppl........
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on May 08, 2007, 01:29:31 AM
No Fighting dude we are trying to avoid a BMMB here you've been warn next time i'll start deleting post
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on May 08, 2007, 08:16:35 AM
Amen for the divine intervention of Jose Biaches!!!!! He will rule you./ But seriously guys stop the whining....Lets all be one happy HIM lovin family here ok. And anyways I wanted to say thanks for the lyrics even if they are wrong cause I  couldn't make out the words for shit. Kudos to you Inferno ^_^
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on May 08, 2007, 08:34:30 AM
was the directed towards cory or the other douche, cuz the other douche was being more of a dick than anyone, im just saying, i highly doubt razor is in the song
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on May 08, 2007, 02:16:28 PM
Maybe we should listen to radio bam again, after all thats where we heard FIRST recording ever to KL.

BTW Glad to be back. I was in chicago. :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on May 08, 2007, 03:29:28 PM
Ah, the drunken Killing Loneliness.  Memories...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Fearxforthebest on May 08, 2007, 08:19:25 PM
im currently making the sound of that live version a little better so if anyone wants it PM me, unless im not allowed? im not sure haha
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on May 08, 2007, 11:41:13 PM
was the directed towards cory or the other douche, cuz the other douche was being more of a dick than anyone, im just saying, i highly doubt razor is in the song

it was derected to everyone who was being a douche
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on May 09, 2007, 02:16:22 AM
im currently making the sound of that live version a little better so if anyone wants it PM me, unless im not allowed? im not sure haha

Post it nigga....
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SmokeAndMirrors on May 09, 2007, 12:20:29 PM
Da album's been pushed back to September, fools.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on May 09, 2007, 01:15:51 PM
aw that sucks. I can't wait that long!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on May 09, 2007, 08:33:20 PM
Not surprising in the least. That doesn't really bother me, though.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on May 09, 2007, 08:35:16 PM
They probably could have put the thing out in July if they had skipped that Projekt Revolution tour. I can't see how they could do the proper promotion playing shitty festival shows.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on May 09, 2007, 11:51:55 PM
Damn. Although, this is what we expected all along. Hopefully they will still play some new songs on this upcoming tour. If not, I'll be really pissed.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on May 10, 2007, 02:30:01 AM
you know what scares me about them pushing back VD to september?

that the producer to the CD has more time to mess around with it and might make it sound like another DL
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Violet on May 11, 2007, 12:06:38 AM
*screams bloody murder* oh god no!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on May 11, 2007, 06:55:45 AM
you know what scares me about them pushing back VD to september?

that the producer to the CD has more time to mess around with it and might make it sound like another DL

I could care less what it sounds like... that's not what I look for in music. It's sad to know that probably most of you only care about how it sounds. It takes more time and thought to write the lyrics than it does to produce the music... hope you guys realize that.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on May 11, 2007, 08:19:11 AM
of course we're worried about how it sounds, that's the point of making a cd, SOUND. and lyrics are a part of that.
valo's lyrics are always good so no worries, and yes overproduction is a big problem, it won't stop any of us from buying the cd, but it still poses as a problem.
you're an idiot if you don't think production can make or break it, and aren't worried a little about it.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on May 11, 2007, 11:54:11 AM
you know what scares me about them pushing back VD to september?

that the producer to the CD has more time to mess around with it and might make it sound like another DL

I could care less what it sounds like... that's not what I look for in music. It's sad to know that probably most of you only care about how it sounds. It takes more time and thought to write the lyrics than it does to produce the music... hope you guys realize that.

 ??? of course we care how it sounds. its MUSIC, not a f**king poem!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sammy on May 11, 2007, 01:20:34 PM
That makes me want to fuck a monkey!

Jay! Bend over!

 ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on May 11, 2007, 06:22:43 PM
The music is there to reflect on the lyrics... that is all.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SmokeAndMirrors on May 11, 2007, 07:52:34 PM
You're more retarded than I thought. First, your lyrics for Dead Lover's Lane are way off, now this.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on May 11, 2007, 08:09:31 PM
come on now guys to each their own if inferno is only into lyrics thats his shit
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on May 11, 2007, 08:19:36 PM
You're more retarded than I thought. First, your lyrics for Dead Lover's Lane are way off, now this.
Woah woah, hostility! Haha. Although I disagree with much of his lyrics, I still give him props for getting that much out of the poor sound we have for the song.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Morningrise on May 12, 2007, 04:11:53 AM
A band's album is a collective piece. The lyrics, songwriting, recording method/process, and production are all vital. Claiming the success of an album relies solely on good writing is very trifling. Many albums have been slammed for their production quality and vice versa.

It's the whole package.

On that note, I'm a believer that Dark Light wasn't successful because it boasted a crisp, clean SOUND unlike its predecessors. It can really make or break an album.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on May 12, 2007, 09:07:01 AM
You're more retarded than I thought. First, your lyrics for Dead Lover's Lane are way off, now this.

You have no Idea if my lyrics are right or wrong... I already said that I know that some of it is probably wrong. I just made out what I could, thought of every word that sounded like what he was saying and applied it to what I could hear, if it didn't go along with the lyrics I trashed it but if it did I kept it as a possibility and then compared it to all the other possibilities and whichever I felt sounded more like something Ville would write is the one I chose.

Let me clarify on what I said before. The Lyrics tell a story... the music is what brings picture to the story. Yes, a song will not make it if the music doesn't fit the story. Compare the song Beautiful to the 3rd Seal version... 2 different sounds. the original to me fits the lyrics much better and actually the music itself brings meaning to the lyrics but mostly the way he sings it is what makes it good. The 3rd seal is much harder and to me it makes him unable to sing the way he does in the original. That's just my opinion.

Btw... with Dark Light they made the music first and then the lyrics, that's why most of it sounded bad. It's hard to make music without some story behind it, but it's not impossible... it's just much harder to do than to make sound from the lyrics.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Morningrise on May 12, 2007, 02:46:03 PM
Do you have an article or interview where Ville or another band member states they wrote music before lyrics? I'm not saying you're wrong, I would just like to see for myself.

The definition of music is as follows.

"An art of SOUND in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color."

And while you're allowed your opinion, music would be very vacuous if only determined by lyrical content alone. Music is far more than matching lyrics with music and I think if you approach music with a more critical mindset you'll come to appreciate GOOD music more. I know GOOD music is subjective, but there's only one way to listen to music and that's the whole package.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on May 12, 2007, 07:29:30 PM
Do you have an article or interview where Ville or another band member states they wrote music before lyrics? I'm not saying you're wrong, I would just like to see for myself.

The definition of music is as follows.

"An art of SOUND in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color."

And while you're allowed your opinion, music would be very vacuous if only determined by lyrical content alone. Music is far more than matching lyrics with music and I think if you approach music with a more critical mindset you'll come to appreciate GOOD music more. I know GOOD music is subjective, but there's only one way to listen to music and that's the whole package.

Just my two cents.

I don't know exactly where it came from but I do remember reading an interview with the band and they were saying that they were doing their production backwards for Dark Light... sound before lyrics.

I'm just gonna say one thing... Music began with no lyrics, that much is true. But since that time music has expanded so much that it's not just that anymore. Taking the sound from the lyrics or vise versa changes A LOT about how you perceive it. But for me, not sure about anyone else, I enjoy the music I listen to because I am able to relate to it... I can apply my life to the story it is telling in one way or another. You take the lyrics out and you really can't do that... you might be able to take a crazy guess as to what the sound is about, but no one will have that same idea.

Dark Light didn't fail because of sound... it actually failed because of both sound and lyrics... personally I believe it was mostly lyrics, but let me explain. Take the songs that you do love from it and compare them to the lyrics of the songs you don't like... there's a big difference isn't there? You will see that the songs you love have a good story lyrically and the ones you didn't like basically had no story at all... so lyrics alone DO play a large part. Setting the lyrics aside, imagine the songs with no lyrics at all... now out of all those songs which are your favorites? You will notice that they can be different than those with lyrics... Just more proof that lyrics play a bigger roll than you think.
Title: Venus Doom... In September ¬¬??
Post by: Lujja on May 13, 2007, 03:28:35 PM
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

now Venus Doom is in September... not in July 10

i can't traslate this but...

++++
Uusi HIM albumi julkaistaan syyskuussa

•  11.05.2007
Menestysbändimme HIMin alkuvuosi on ollut työntäyteinen. Yhtyeen kuudes studioalbumi nauhoitettiin keväällä Helsingin Finnvox-studiossa tuottaja Tim Palmerin johdolla. Levy miksataan toukokuussa Kaliforniassa, jonka jälkeen on vuorossa videon kuvaukset. Uusi albumi julkaistaan maailmanlaajuisesti syyskuussa 2007.
+++



....


>.<
I Can't Wait :(...

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on May 14, 2007, 12:40:58 PM
Even HMC.fi is reporting that Venus Doom is delayed until September. I'm not so much mad that it's delayed, but why. Stupid U.S. label. Let Europe release it in July, so I can import it, and then you guys can release it whenever the hell you want!  ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: synninviemaa66 on May 14, 2007, 06:33:51 PM
But this could be wrong, I mean so many places, articles, etc. have confirmed July 10th, and since one other thing comes out I think we should still speculate July 10th
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on May 15, 2007, 12:54:03 AM
Yes, but everyone confirmed July 10th back when that was still the tentative date. Now it has been pushed back and most places have yet to update to that.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Bender Bending R. on May 15, 2007, 05:40:45 AM
Even HMC.fi is reporting that Venus Doom is delayed until September. I'm not so much mad that it's delayed, but why. Stupid U.S. label. Let Europe release it in July, so I can import it, and then you guys can release it whenever the hell you want!  ;D
HMC was the first telling about July as release date, later mtv added july 10 and the title, Venus doom
but HMC never have published the name of the album
apart mtv, there is another reference to the title, maybe on kerrang?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on May 15, 2007, 08:18:41 AM
Metal Hammer mentions the title in the May issue, but doesn't have any specific release date.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on May 15, 2007, 10:44:35 AM
From Heartagram.com Forum posted by Shelley (http://heartagram.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/932109416/m/1021058222?r=5861044322#5861044322) (on may 11 2007):

Quote
Got the Revolver in the mail today. My scanner is not working so I will type it out for you guys.

In the studio THE GREAT DEPRESSION

Ville Valo coudn't be more bummed out about how good HIM's forthcoming album promises to be.

"I've been having thes meltdowns like never before" says HIM's Ville Valo. The finnish frontman is on the phone from Finnvox studios in Helsinki, where the band is tracking the followup to 2005's Dark Light, tentaively titled "Venus Doom". "When an album is on it's way, its always something. Last time, I had these panic attacks, and this time around I've been going through severe depression. The albums sounding great, and we're having a great time while doing it, but I'm really having a hard time."

The band (which also includes guitarist Linde Lindstrom, bassist Mige', drummer Gas, and keyboardist Burton) is once again working with Dark Light producer Tim Palmer, with coproduction and engineering help from Hiili Hiilesmaa, who produced 2003's Love Metal. "When you have two guys that know the band real well, everything goes alot faster," says Valo. "And it's been nice for the band to record at home, because everyone can sleep in their own bed until the touring thing starts." So, what, then, is the problem? "Oh, I don't fucking know." Valo laughs. "You prepare the songs and you work on lyrics for maybe years before you get to actually hear them played by the band, and then it's such an emotional thing that goes on when that happens-it's like you 've got to destroy something beautiful to rebuild something even more beautiful. It's devastating to me, but it's devastating to me in a peculiarly beautiful way. It's like Edvard Munch's The Scream-but with pastel colors."

Never one to shy away from wearing his vampire heart on his sleeve, Valo says his lyrics for Venus Doom (which, like Dark Light, will be released on Sire Records) are more personal than ever., including a song for a friend who commited suicide two years ago. "Sometimes, when you write lyrics, you think you're writing them about somebody else," he explains. "But all of a sudden, when you read them again, you're like, Fucking hell, they're about me! That's kind of weird, and that's been happening alot lately."

Still, Valo assures Revolver that he hasn't lost his macrabre sense of humor. "It's all still tongue in cheek, to a certain extent," he says. "You can't take yourself too seriously-or way too seriously, you know? There's a fine line. My favorite is the song 'Passions Killing Floor.' The first line is 'My hearts a graveyard baby!' And there is a song called 'Dead Lovers Lane': 'Crawl down dead lovers lane/The maze of memories stained/And suck the blood out of my heart.' Stuff like that. So, Im still the depressed fucking gloomy motherfucker that I always was." he laughs.

Valo previously told Revolver that Venus Doom would sound like Blsck Sabbath meets Nineties shoegazers My Bloody Valentine, and the singer still stands by the description.

"Or U2 meeting Kyuss," he offers. "It's still very melodic-the keyboards are super-gay-very Depeche Mode, very Eighties-but everything else is super-fucking heavy. At times, it sounds like Master of Puppets-era Metallica, which is really cool. It sounds kind of macho, which is nice. So it's kind of like a she-male record."

Venus Doom, which wil be mixed by Palmer and Valo at L.A.'s Paramount Recording, is slated for a July 10 release.

"We're trying to be fast," says Valo. "We're trying to be like the Seventies, when Whitesnake and everybody were doing three albums a year."
Wait, did you just say Whitesnake? "I love Whitesnake! David Coverdale is my fucking hero!," Valo exults. "Though our brand of cock rock is a little more subtle. We are very sensitive on that side," he chuckles. "We do 'slide it in' occasionally-but only if she says so."

There are two pic's, the one with the voodoo chicken foot in the studio and another small one standing at the mike singing in the studio.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: synninviemaa66 on May 15, 2007, 02:27:57 PM
Still slated for July 10th :) And that must be a very recent interveiw, and it's in a brand new issue. I hope it comes out July
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on May 15, 2007, 02:41:05 PM
Slated doesn't mean shit.  My guess is that it will be September, but I would rape you for a July release.  :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on May 15, 2007, 05:13:22 PM
haha.. good interview got me excited because of the fact that it says hilli co produced it. got them good old love metal feelings again. i think they are gonna fucking bring it on this one.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on May 15, 2007, 05:24:05 PM
in May the New Video-Shoot :)

i can't wait ¬¬
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ~TheSacrament~ on May 16, 2007, 08:29:42 AM
i just heard on him online that there making revamped versions of THE SACRAMENT, WINGS OF A BUTTERFLY, WHEN LOVE AND DEATH EMBRACE and DONT FEAR THE REAPER. Plus, i cant wait to hear dead lovers lane
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ~TheSacrament~ on May 16, 2007, 08:35:53 AM
there touring with LINKIN PARK*punches the wall*goddamnit LP sucks
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on May 16, 2007, 10:27:09 AM
i just heard on him online that there making revamped versions of THE SACRAMENT, WINGS OF A BUTTERFLY, WHEN LOVE AND DEATH EMBRACE and DONT FEAR THE REAPER. Plus, i cant wait to hear dead lovers lane

Where did you hear that? And why would they be doing that?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Ziggy18 on May 16, 2007, 11:01:32 AM

And there is a song called 'Dead Lovers Lane': 'Crawl down dead lovers lane/The maze of memories stained/And suck the blood out of my heart.'

Good, the correct lyric from the chorus.  The real lyric is a lot better than the stuff people thought it could have been.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ForAllTid on May 16, 2007, 01:06:23 PM
I highly doubt VD will come out in July, for one there hasn't been any promotion for it and July 10th is only one and a half months away. Just my thought, besides HIM always says a date then changes it to the fall.



They must like the fall.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on May 16, 2007, 01:14:07 PM
I'm sure it has to do with the tour... if you had a choice and you have to pick from getting more publicity or releasing an album, which would you do?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on May 16, 2007, 11:05:01 PM
Releasing in September is a good idea for the label. Not so much for us...lol. Oh well, at least we will have a video in the next couple months.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: synninviemaa66 on May 17, 2007, 12:47:04 AM
Two new songs titles, and now they say that it is being released in September aswell. FUCK!  >:(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_Doom

New Songs
Sleep Walking Past Hope
Cyanide Sun
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on May 17, 2007, 12:53:35 AM
Don't trust wikipedia...

Anyone could have edited that.


I could make a song on there read as... "fuck my ass with a little bit of doom"

if I wanted.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: synninviemaa66 on May 17, 2007, 01:01:04 AM
Oh I didn't know that. Maybe it's wrong then!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on May 17, 2007, 01:07:13 AM
Never know though.;)

It could be confirmed.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: livewire625 on May 17, 2007, 01:17:25 AM
Nope its set for released in early september...btw New interview if anyone cares to see it...

http://funeralofhearts.com/?p=165

*That should work*
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on May 17, 2007, 01:52:21 AM
well the september thing bums me out but, the ten minute long songs sounds good. sounds like it actually will be heavy. i've never heard a ten minute long pop song before and if there is one and someone knows of one please don't correct me. i'm feeling happy at the moment don't ruin it for me lol
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: synninviemaa66 on May 17, 2007, 02:54:05 AM
Well atleast Sleepwalking is one!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on May 17, 2007, 07:26:55 AM
Quote
Sleep Walking Past Hope
Cyanide Sun


I've heard the titels before, but I not sure where. (I though) a fan posted them who spoke to Ville, but I though they were fake :p
I will try if I can find it.


EDIT2:
Can't find it, but found this:
RockSound 97 June 2007
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/mamucium3/rocksound1june2007issue97.jpg) (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/mamucium3/rocksound1june2007issue97.jpg)
Click to enlarge
About Cyanide Sun and Sleep Walking Past Hope





EDIT:
Just found this:
MetalHammer: HIM postpone album (http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/news/article/?id=46570)
Quote
Heaviest HIM album delayed

According to H.I.M.'s Finnish record label Helsinki Music Company (HMC), the projected release date of the group's new album, tentatively titled "Venus Doom", has been pushed back to September from the previously announced July 10. The band's sixth studio CD was recorded at the Finnvox facility in Helsinki with producer Tim Palmer and is scheduled to be mixed this month in California, followed by a video shoot.

H.I.M. frontman Ville Valo recently told MTV.com that "Venus Doom" is "going to be a lot heavier than anything we've done before — that's the whole idea. It's like we're mixing MY BLOODY VALENTINE's 'Loveless' with METALLICA's 'Master of Puppets'. ... There won't be as much ear candy on this one. There are a lot of riffs, and it's more guitar-oriented than keyboard-driven. Really, we just wanted to rock our own socks off.

"We wanted to make a really rockin' album — one that would explode your speakers," he added. "But we also wanted to maintain the melancholy aspects of love and loss in the lyrics and then have the really sweet vocals amidst this storm of guitars.

"Lyrically, it's about me losing a relationship and then actually regaining it, and losing my sanity and regaining it," Valo continued. "As you grow up, life gets more and more complex, even though when you're a kid you think things are going to get easier. It's like a f---ing puzzle that just keeps on having more and more pieces to it. It's very personal, this album. It's like me getting rid of my demons and putting the pain in the music. It's cathartic, and it's about cleansing yourself and trying to have the courage to take that one step further."

Songtitles set to appear on the CD include "Dead Lovers Lane", "The Kiss of Dawn", "Love in Cold Blood" and "Passion's Killing Floor".

Source: Blabbermouth
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ~TheSacrament~ on May 17, 2007, 08:56:24 AM
Srry my last post was false but they confirmed the remake of the sacrament and dont fear the reaper.
REASONS:
THE SACRAMENT: Bam will direct the video and the name will be changed into sacramentum(latin for sacrament).
DONT FEAR THE REAPER: This ones long...really long...very long... lol. HIM found out that this song had a VERY LOW fanbase and is remaking it into two videos. Their version will be 8 minutes long, and containing some of Valos most kept secret lyrics in a notepad of his that he's been writing. The video will be taken place in Glasgow Necropolis which is a victorian cemetery in Glasgow, Scotland. Valo said its his favorite place on earth and would love to have it here.http://www.answers.com/topic/glasgow-necropolis (http://www.answers.com/topic/glasgow-necropolis)
The other video will be for a movie coming out in August 31st 2007"HALLOWEEN"which is a remake of the Original "Halloween" that came out in the 1970's directed by Rob Zombie;rocker turned director. Apparently the original blue oyster cult song plays in various scenes of the movie. Valo claims that this is one of His favourite movies. THIS IS CONFIRMED AND I CANT BELEIVE WHAT IM ABOUT TO SAY BUT ITS CONFIRMED AS WELL! Bam apparently has a small singing part in sacramentum(RM) and in dont fear the reaper(RM).
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on May 17, 2007, 09:04:56 AM
Thanks for the information, but what is your information source?
(And there is a special Projekt Revolution thread (http://thesacrament.net/forum/index.php?topic=2205.0) :))


EDIT: what Jen said :D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on May 17, 2007, 09:36:48 AM
He's offline at the moment
Google doesn't help. But maybe he only heard it.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ~TheSacrament~ on May 17, 2007, 09:59:58 AM
I heard it on mtv there was an interview with bam i dont think its true im just stating what someone else said

ya'll must think im a fag or a fuckin noob dont you
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on May 17, 2007, 10:04:31 AM
Thanks for the news, and welcome btw ;)
Which MTV program was it?


EDIT:
No, at least I don't.
But there are a lot of rumors about HIM that aren't true, so that's why we want to know what the source is.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ~TheSacrament~ on May 17, 2007, 10:08:28 AM
MTV 2

and thanks it means alot
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on May 17, 2007, 11:43:31 AM
Because this is the thread for the new album, I made a new topic for this rumor New videoclips (DFTR and TS)  (http://thesacrament.net/forum/index.php?topic=2300.0) for further discussion.

Back on-topic  :)


And ~TheSacrament~, with this button, (http://thesacrament.net/forum/Themes/classic/images/icons/modify_inline.gif) or this one (http://thesacrament.net/forum/Themes/classic/images/english/modify.gif) you can edit your post, in cause of double posting  ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SmokeAndMirrors on May 17, 2007, 01:05:08 PM
A lot of weird shit is popping up lately. If you check out Wikipedia's page for Venus Doom, it has two new song titles listed: "Sleep Walking Past Hope" and "Cyanide Sun". Cyanide Sun sounds gay, but Sleep Walking Past Hope is pretty cool. Hopefully at least that one's true.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on May 17, 2007, 01:11:58 PM
See the previous page ;)
Both true, according to Mr. Light
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on May 17, 2007, 05:56:25 PM
Why would Ville write new lyrics to Don't Fear The Reaper? Or am I reading your post wrong?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mindulizz on May 18, 2007, 04:43:27 AM
I think that Venus Doom will be to heavy...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Danny on May 18, 2007, 07:24:39 AM
I`m really looking forward to the new album now..Everything sounds so promising ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ~TheSacrament~ on May 18, 2007, 09:36:15 AM
im just saying i heard it on mtv2. They would make a new dont fear the reaper song and i dont know why they would remake the sacrament cuz thats one of my favorite songs.
The only good thing I heard from this is that they would make a promo featuring clips from the remake of my favorite movie series ever"HALLOWEEN"
Site Link:
Its not the official site, but its my site that I made with adobe flash so I hope you like it

http://www.halloweenflash.com (http://www.halloweenflash.com)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ~TheSacrament~ on May 18, 2007, 01:03:37 PM
 ;Dlol thats funny
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on May 20, 2007, 06:11:29 PM
I think that Venus Doom will be to heavy...

No such thing my friend. HIM would do well to leave behind their U2-esque sound, and go back to emulating Type O Negative and Black Sabbath.

See Greatest Love Songs Vol. 666 if you don't believe me.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: NEGATIVE nancy (freewm3) on May 20, 2007, 06:35:11 PM
I think that Venus Doom will actually be a decent album...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RAZORBLADEKISSES on May 21, 2007, 03:05:45 PM
Wow this is all very interesting thanks for sharing guys. And  The Sacrament thanks for sharing that tid bit of info I am gonna go see if I can find out anything else from this MTV interview and what not. Either way it looks like HIM is back in the spotlight again people. ^_^ Hopefully for the better this time. Which I do believe.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mat1az on May 25, 2007, 06:34:14 AM
[url]http://www.halloweenflash.com[/url] ([url]http://www.halloweenflash.com[/url])


Great work on the homepage, me like :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mindulizz on May 25, 2007, 06:20:19 PM
Let's hope that new album will have GLS666  mood :)  with no sweet things like in DSBH  ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: synninviemaa66 on May 26, 2007, 01:42:54 AM
Supposedly, Venus Doom comes out September 4, 2007

Atleast it's not all the way at the end of the month like Dark Light
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: puddintay on May 26, 2007, 05:00:30 AM
I've heard several dates including the 10th but September 10th is on a Monday and in the US new releases are released on Tuesday's.

I'm stoked about this album. Heavy sounds so great! If it's as heavy (or a bit heavier) than Greatest Lovesongs 666 then I will do backflips lol. I love all the albums but after DL I'm ready for something a lot harder  ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ForAllTid on May 27, 2007, 01:37:24 AM
KORN!!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on May 27, 2007, 08:36:42 AM
Please oh please can it be GLSV666 style.
Darklight was so samey
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on May 27, 2007, 11:56:46 AM
According to anyone who has heard tracks from Venus Doom, it is alot like GLS666.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on May 27, 2007, 12:28:55 PM
Everyone get your ears ready for this one.

I am having hope it is a combination of ALL their albums, mainly RR and GLSV666
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on May 27, 2007, 03:01:43 PM
I'd like Deep Shadows Part 2. But that's probably just me.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on May 27, 2007, 03:35:03 PM
Yeah, I would like that.

maybe greatest lovesongs vol. 665. or 777

but I really did like DSaBH, cos of the fact all the good lyrics.

I love the band equally. but me speaking as a poet. I love the lyrics alot. I look for lyrics in music mainly.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jack Sparrow on May 28, 2007, 08:05:16 AM
Let's hope that new album will have GLS666  mood :)  with no sweet things like in DSBH  ;D

for sweet things there's Dark Light.      DSBH is a very deep and great album.    Yes, its a little mellow but Ville didn't had to go back and repeat phrases for the lyrics as in DL.

Bring on the heavy guitars!!  8)

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mindulizz on May 28, 2007, 12:15:08 PM
Than Valo need to listen more Type o Negative :D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Violet on June 01, 2007, 03:26:19 AM
Than we'll have him singing like Pete Steal again, that was pretty cool and all, but it gets boaring after a while.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on June 02, 2007, 01:11:45 AM
As does his shitty Americanized half assed high singing voice.

BRING ON THE STEEL I SAY!!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on June 02, 2007, 11:47:53 AM
I hate the way he Americanized his "R."  "and decent to the circle number fourr" it sounds so forced.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on June 02, 2007, 12:52:14 PM
(http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/16/Scan0002.bmp) (http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/16/Scan0002.bmp)
click to enlarge

longer songs, shortest song is five-and-a-half minutes
and a good headbanging album

EDIT: found it on ValoDaily
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mindulizz on June 02, 2007, 01:49:08 PM
Let's hope that Gas will show his druming skills :D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Violet on June 02, 2007, 11:14:38 PM
I hate the way he Americanized his "R."  "and decent to the circle number fourr" it sounds so forced.

Hey, your right. I never really listened to it that closey before.  Shows what kind of fan I am...*cries*

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Spooky Kabuki on June 03, 2007, 11:02:22 AM
([url]http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/16/Scan0002.bmp[/url]) ([url]http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/16/Scan0002.bmp[/url])
click to enlarge

longer songs, shortest song is five-and-a-half minutes
and a good headbanging album

EDIT: found it on ValoDaily


I love how it says "2003's Gold selling Dark Light."  lol
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on June 04, 2007, 02:41:49 AM
([url]http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/16/Scan0002.bmp[/url]) ([url]http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/16/Scan0002.bmp[/url])
click to enlarge

longer songs, shortest song is five-and-a-half minutes
and a good headbanging album

EDIT: found it on ValoDaily


I love how it says "2003's Gold selling Dark Light."  lol

I find it Pathetic as to his opinions on Bam.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mat1az on June 04, 2007, 05:45:46 AM
([url]http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/16/Scan0002.bmp[/url]) ([url]http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/16/Scan0002.bmp[/url])


Whos the guy in the back?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on June 04, 2007, 07:45:02 AM
I hate the way he Americanized his "R."  "and decent to the circle number fourr" it sounds so forced.

The fact he said Fall rather than Autumn annoyed me more but still, I expect that's just me being petty :-\

Anyways, Should be a decent album... I just want them to hurry up and release it. If they're ahead of schedule why does the release date have to keep moving back?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Danny on June 04, 2007, 08:33:57 AM
([url]http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/16/Scan0002.bmp[/url]) ([url]http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/16/Scan0002.bmp[/url])
click to enlarge

longer songs, shortest song is five-and-a-half minutes
and a good headbanging album

EDIT: found it on ValoDaily


I love how it says "2003's Gold selling Dark Light."  lol

I find it Pathetic as to his opinions on Bam.

I so agree with you ;)
I`m so tired of first hearing about HIM and then....BAM! They always have to mention him.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on June 04, 2007, 02:21:24 PM
you never know the record company could be just saying septmber to get everybody hyped up and crazy about it then surprise everyone and put it out on july second ion hope that it will increase record sales... i can always hope right? and after all ville did say they were ahead of schedule didn't he? :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on June 04, 2007, 05:52:18 PM
I know we know that VD has a September release date now...
...but I was in Virgin today and they had an advert cd case on the stands and it said:

HIM
Title TBC
Release date July 2nd


I was in a virgin yesterday and she didn't say shit about VD.

I think we're stuck with September, which still isn't bad.  At least HIM will have time to road-test their new shit before they put it out.  I'm looking forward to new material on this tour rather than the usual set.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Ziggy18 on June 05, 2007, 10:44:56 AM
i would prefer it for a july date so they play more new material for the projekt revolution tour.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on June 05, 2007, 11:10:54 AM
I hope all you good nice charming beautiful folk in the good ole USA are going to be recording all the new songs played live this coming tour  ;D

I plan on recording as much of the Dallas show as possible. I mean, I would never bootleg a concert. Heh. Heh. No, never. Not me.  ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mindulizz on June 05, 2007, 01:34:33 PM
Hope to hear some new material as soon as possible ;) :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on June 05, 2007, 09:06:58 PM
from: h-i-m666


it could be the official cover of Venus Doom...

 :-X

(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1030/himalbumvioa9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)



it's not so beautiful like other covers of HIM...  :-\
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on June 05, 2007, 09:33:07 PM
hey if thats the cover i'm happy i don't think it is but it's a hell of a lot better than the cover for dark light.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on June 06, 2007, 01:20:34 AM
It's not official. Ville Valoa, a user on the heartagram boards who is close to the band posted it. He said it's only a mock up based on the ideas he has seen. They haven't even decided on a final design yet.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on June 06, 2007, 06:15:26 AM
The post by Ville Valoa (http://heartagram.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4311049122/m/7961053322?r=6851010922#6851010922) on the Heartagram.com forums
And he posted this:
Quote
just a mock up of what it might turn to. Based on what I've seen. There are still a loooooooooooot of drafts.
Just like when you look at the Dark Light booklet they printed all the drafts for DL's cover.



@Daedalus, is he close to HIM of does he only pretends to be?
His posthistory on the Heartagram forums (http://heartagram.infopop.cc/eve/forums?a=userposts&sortType=1&u=216100807)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on June 06, 2007, 11:27:12 AM
The moderators over there back up his claims.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on June 06, 2007, 10:26:17 PM
The official heartagram site was just updated. Venus Doom will be released on September 17th internationally and September 18th in the US. Stay turned for a special way you can hear the first single, it says.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on June 07, 2007, 01:08:56 AM
Neat.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Bender Bending R. on June 07, 2007, 01:15:38 AM
on warner spain told us about september 4 as the release date, i hope no more changes...


from: h-i-m666


it could be the official cover of Venus Doom...

 :-X

([url]http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1030/himalbumvioa9.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us[/url])



it's not so beautiful like other covers of HIM...  :-\


dont belive much about it, the girl that put that news also found it on valo daily, but look much like fan made, and "very easy" to do
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: robertzombie on June 07, 2007, 04:24:27 PM
([url]http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1030/himalbumvioa9.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us[/url])


I hope this isn't going to be the final design.
It would be nice if they would acknowledge the four other people in the band for once... ::)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on June 08, 2007, 02:58:11 PM
Nah, it's a mock up.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: robertzombie on June 09, 2007, 08:18:32 PM
Even thought it's only a prototype I can see it being a single cover (swap Venus Doom for PKF perhaps?) but it doesn't look/feel like an album cover to me.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mat1az on June 11, 2007, 06:41:21 AM
Even thought it's only a prototype I can see it being a single cover (swap Venus Doom for PKF perhaps?) but it doesn't look/feel like an album cover to me.


Jea, it looks like a cover for a single. What I don't like about tat cover is the font and the look of Venus Doom. Looks so modern, so Linking Park'ish mixed with some sort of Skate-Punk look and it gives some sort of Happy felling to the shit... men not like that!  >:(

EDIT:

Much better :)
(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1542/himalbumvioa9wo0.jpg)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on June 11, 2007, 08:14:12 AM
you know what scares me about them pushing back VD to september?

that the producer to the CD has more time to mess around with it and might make it sound like another DL

..OR to make it the album Ville is really hoping for...

Maybe?  :-[
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mindulizz on June 12, 2007, 09:44:46 AM
What our lovely band is doing at the moment?  they ar mixing new album or what ? i know that the recording is done, but what now?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on June 12, 2007, 10:34:20 AM
The album was supposed to have been 100% done at the end of May. However, they are still working on the artwork and that sort of thing. My guess is they are working with the label to coordinate how they are going to promote the album. That, or drinking till they can't feel feelings anymore.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on June 12, 2007, 10:56:42 AM
Or maybe, knowing them... all the above!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: smedlock on June 13, 2007, 01:45:35 AM
lol knowing ville id say drinking till he cant feel feeling anymore..that and poseing for photos for the artwork...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SmokeAndMirrors on June 13, 2007, 11:33:39 AM
http://www.therockitnews.com/story-news.php

They have Venus Doom listed as a song on the album, as well as one called "Song Or Suicide".
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Wille Wallo on June 13, 2007, 01:45:21 PM
Even thought it's only a prototype I can see it being a single cover (swap Venus Doom for PKF perhaps?) but it doesn't look/feel like an album cover to me.


Jea, it looks like a cover for a single. What I don't like about tat cover is the font and the look of Venus Doom. Looks so modern, so Linking Park'ish mixed with some sort of Skate-Punk look and it gives some sort of Happy felling to the shit... men not like that!  >:(

EDIT:

Much better :)
([url]http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1542/himalbumvioa9wo0.jpg[/url])



I wouldn't be suprised at all if this was the cover, i mean other then love metal and dark light ville has been the subject of most the covers including many of the singles.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on June 13, 2007, 03:35:24 PM
It says:
Quote
Venus Doom Tracklisting
not, something like "songs on the new album"

Didn't Ville said that there will be 10 tracks on the album? Maybe this is all in the right order, 9 long songs and perhaps an extra track

"Bleedwell" sounds great, better then "bleed well"


EDIT: oh, or maybe this was the order TheRockit heard the songs :-X

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mat1az on June 14, 2007, 04:57:53 AM
Kiss of Dawn sound like someting the 69 Eyes would have written
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on June 14, 2007, 08:06:48 PM
better not be fucking cgi shit again...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on June 16, 2007, 08:51:50 PM
i really wish something would leak already i'm getting so damn antsy. it's driving me fucking bananas.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on June 16, 2007, 09:31:12 PM
i really wish something would leak already i'm getting so damn antsy. it's driving me fucking bananas.
I was just going to post that haha
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: valos_lover on June 19, 2007, 06:58:12 PM
I dunno if i am double posting but according to play.com the album is due to be  released on 2nd july but on hmv uk its 3d of sept heres link plus what maybe album cover i dunno if anyone else has seen this http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=220;1;-1;-1&sku=639870 (http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=220;1;-1;-1&sku=639870)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on June 19, 2007, 07:21:30 PM
Just a promo image taken around the time of Dark Light release, not the Venus Doom cover. July was the original planned release date, but it was pushed back till September.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: smedlock on June 20, 2007, 03:29:39 AM
it says its availabe for pre order..is that right? isnt all the pre-order dstuff usually through heartagram.com
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Danny on June 20, 2007, 07:44:03 AM
On homepage to Norways biggest record store it says that the realease date is The third of september--->http://www.platekompaniet.no/artist.asp?id=00002434 (http://www.platekompaniet.no/artist.asp?id=00002434)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: smedlock on June 20, 2007, 06:44:17 PM
aahhh i understand now...i was getting confused with like the DL special edition and wat not
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: shanemaloney on June 21, 2007, 01:07:07 PM
yea jenx i totally agree!!!!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: The Bloody Glove on June 21, 2007, 10:29:19 PM
I think RadioBam may be the first to leak VD...

I just realized the abbreviation is VD

hmmmm...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on June 21, 2007, 10:33:36 PM
I think RadioBam may be the first to leak VD...

I just realized the abbreviation is VD

hmmmm...

Exactly.  I've always said that the promo campaign should be "Contract VD on 9/17" or something.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on June 21, 2007, 10:46:32 PM
I think RadioBam may be the first to leak VD...

I just realized the abbreviation is VD

hmmmm...

Exactly.  I've always said that the promo campaign should be "Contract VD on 9/17" or something.

Maybe, Watch MTV so you can get V.D. all to yourself.

Be the first in your block to get V.D.

Got V.D.?

V.D. isn't just for Gothic Kids who perform Anal Sex now all of the Pacific Sun kids can be all over it. (Ok, that was a stretch).

Be cool like me, get V.D.

V.D. never sounded so better.

You are not cool until V.D. is in you.

V.D. enters one of orifices and leaves out the other.

I am sure there is more ways to play with that one.

I am off to take my V.D. pills.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: The Bloody Glove on June 22, 2007, 05:22:25 PM
thats the first thing I bet HIM haters r gonna say

"OMG THEY HAVE AN ALBUM CALLED VD!!!!!"
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: alterego on June 22, 2007, 07:40:30 PM

V.D. never sounded so better.


perfect.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: vtioldlde on June 22, 2007, 08:23:37 PM
I hope hey dont COMPLETELY rip off the 69 eyes with the  hot girl thing...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: BABL on June 23, 2007, 11:27:36 AM
i like this picture....

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/BABL/Venusdoompromo.jpg)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on June 23, 2007, 02:04:39 PM
slap Venus Doom in the center and that would be a pretty sweet album art
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: The Bloody Glove on June 23, 2007, 03:15:12 PM
Does anyone know the colors for this album they are using?

Like Razor was Pink
GLS was red and so on
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on June 23, 2007, 03:31:34 PM
mmm...

the first promo was green...

i think that VD will be:
Dark Red
Black + Other Color (Blue, Purple, Red, etc)
Rare Green
Pink + (Purple, Red, Blue...)

xD mmm maybe...  ::)
but i don't know the official color
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Sucubus666 on June 23, 2007, 03:34:36 PM
Chances are that will be the cover, or at least the tracklist on the back. It's very symmetrical so it would be good for either. Possibly a more elborate version of what is shown would be the cover and this would be the back.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: BABL on June 23, 2007, 04:33:19 PM
Chances are that will be the cover, or at least the tracklist on the back. It's very symmetrical so it would be good for either. Possibly a more elborate version of what is shown would be the cover and this would be the back.

No, No, No hehe... you got it all wrong... that is not an offical promo poster, its one i came together with.. i made it and thought it looked awesome so i stuck it in here... glad you like it though ;)


EDIT - Look at my signiture its got the cover without the '17.09.07' thing that should have been you first clue ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mindulizz on June 23, 2007, 04:41:42 PM
check www.heartagram.com there is some news :D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: BABL on June 23, 2007, 04:47:12 PM
check www.heartagram.com there is some news :D

old news, we already know about the transformers thingy.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: The Bloody Glove on June 23, 2007, 09:00:15 PM
Damnit I want to hear that song now!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on June 24, 2007, 12:25:07 AM
Damnit I want to hear that song now!
A week and a half or so 'til it's officially released. Chances are it will leak, but if not, it's not a long wait.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Ziggy18 on June 25, 2007, 02:16:26 PM
I really hope it does leak, but if not i'm goin to best buy when in opens at 10 am.  I'm hoping to see the movie on the 2nd, the day before it's release.  A whole bunch of theatres are showing it the day before. 

Do you think the song will be in the movie ?? cuz resident evil apoc. , join me was on the soundtrack and not in the movie.   
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on June 25, 2007, 02:35:14 PM
found this interview with gas about venus doom on funeralofhearts a minute ago. pretty interesting.
 
http://funeralofhearts.com/?p=184
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on June 25, 2007, 06:00:01 PM
With all the copies of the movie floating around on torrent sites, I doubt you can hear the new HIM song in the actual movie.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on June 29, 2007, 05:32:18 PM
The promos are out already... I had the chance to quickly listen to all the tracks...
This album is going to be absolutely outstanding... I can't wait for a proper leak...  :o
And no, I don't have the actual CD... Just a quick photo I snapped with my mobile:
(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1133/2007062923181xl9.th.jpg) (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007062923181xl9.jpg)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on June 29, 2007, 05:47:34 PM
damnit there has to be a leak soon then come on i wanna hear the whole thing. :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on June 29, 2007, 06:24:51 PM
Hey hey, I don't remember all the tracks by heart but I can assure you that... the song "Venus Doom" is "doom" enough to keep your head banging! :D
And... Sleepwalking Past Hope sounded strangely familiar! It's the same stunning melody from "Thulsa Doom" version of "Salt In Our Wounds"!!! :D
There is no ballad in the album as far as I listened... I mean a whole ballad track... One starts slowly but then gets heavy! :D
That's it, no more details! I'm off to bed! I have a live show to give tomorrow with my band!  :o
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on June 29, 2007, 06:27:53 PM
Talk about a cock tease!  :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on June 29, 2007, 06:32:18 PM
Cock block
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on June 29, 2007, 08:12:12 PM
The promos are out already... I had the chance to quickly listen to all the tracks...
This album is going to be absolutely outstanding... I can't wait for a proper leak...  :o
And no, I don't have the actual CD... Just a quick photo I snapped with my mobile:
([url]http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1133/2007062923181xl9.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007062923181xl9.jpg[/url])


You lucky bastard!! Is it really as "heavy" as they claim?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on June 30, 2007, 04:53:20 AM
It's heavier than I expected... Reminded me of some Love Metal songs but with heavier guitars and the drums are just awesome! The production and mastering are really shining!!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on June 30, 2007, 03:46:41 PM
the fact that you just said love metal but heavier guitars made me cream in my panties :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on June 30, 2007, 04:00:02 PM
But it's not a new GLV666, Miltos?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SmokeAndMirrors on June 30, 2007, 04:23:49 PM
Since it's watermarked, did it say that stupid shit throughout the songs like: "This recording is the property of HIM: Helsinki, Finland"?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on June 30, 2007, 05:33:19 PM
Since it's watermarked, did it say that stupid shit throughout the songs like: "This recording is the property of HIM: Helsinki, Finland"?
I believe the watermark is an ID tag unique to each disc.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on June 30, 2007, 05:37:35 PM
If that were the case couldn't someone just record it through an analog device? Their is probably hidden watermarks (skip, crack, pop) scattered throughout the tracks one wouldn't realize were watermarks.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on June 30, 2007, 05:45:24 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, the tag is digital. If thats true, the tag wouldn't be found on an analog recording. Therefore it couldn't be tracked. There has to be some type of audible watermark...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on June 30, 2007, 07:01:10 PM
Indeed the promo CDs are digitally "watermarked"... I don't know how the identification works but I wouldn't risk it! :P
About the album being a "new" GLSV666... No, nothing can top that at least for me... But I believe it's WAY better than Dark Light and even Love Metal as far as I can remember!!!
I NEED to listen to it again!!!

Oufff... I just came home after a live show that me and my band had in a very good local club... I'm so satisfied with all the nice comments we got and the atmosphere was great too!  ;D

Anyway, I'm off to bed now... In a few hours I will leave for one week of vacation with my parents so I will be absent from the forum...

Take care everybody and see you soon!

MiLToS_666
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: purple dove on July 01, 2007, 01:34:40 AM
I'm so happy they are putting out a heavy cd I kinda wana cry a little and then rejoyce.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on July 01, 2007, 07:28:27 AM
PKF was great, the band interviews and articles point in a good direction and the reviews are sounding good....

Now we just have to wait 2 months :-[ ack
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Bender Bending R. on July 01, 2007, 01:39:28 PM
very interesting review Miltos! i cannot wait to listen the album
any info abour early version of the songs?
those cds are easy to rip with vlc player
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 01, 2007, 11:01:32 PM
Well I stopped by the Street Team Network booth at Warped today to pick up some HIM material and noticed something interesting on the stickers. I'm guessing this confirms the rumors of "Kiss Of Dawn" being the first single.

Front

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/and1soulja408/myspace/untitled-7.jpg)

Back

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/and1soulja408/myspace/DSC02188.jpg)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 01, 2007, 11:25:08 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on July 02, 2007, 11:52:42 AM
(I posted this in the "Passion's Killing Floor" thread too - but maybe this thread is more appropriate)

Source page: Blabbermouth.net (http://"[url]http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=74695[/url])

H.I.M. To Film New Video This Month

Finnish goth metallers H.I.M. will film a new video on Thursday, June 21 and/or Saturday, June 23 in the Los Angeles area. Directing the clip will be Meiert Avis, who has previously worked with U2, AVRIL LAVIGNE, JENNIFER LOPEZ and BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, in addition to helming H.I.M.'s "Wings of a Butterfly" video. The production team put out a casting call for the clip this week and will hold auditions on Tuesday (June 19), looking for "a beautiful girl (model type) to perform in the lead role of the video."

As previously reported, a brand new H.I.M. track, entitled "Passion's Killing Floor", will be included on the soundtrack album to Michael Bay's "Transformers", due on July 3 via Warner Bros. The disc will feature a total of 12 tracks, nine of which are brand new and exclusive to the soundtrack.

"Passion's Killing Floor" comes off H.I.M.'s forthcoming album, "Venus Doom", due in North America on September 18. The band's sixth studio CD, which will arrive one day earlier internationally, was recorded at the Finnvox facility in Helsinki with producer Tim Palmer and was mixed in California. Other songtitles set to appear on the CD include "Dead Lovers Lane" (video), "The Kiss of Dawn" and "Love in Cold Blood".



I am confused now as that quote suggests a proper release for PKF. If that's so then wouldn't KOD be the second release making the thing on the stickers strange.


Unless the video they mention is for KOD and the info was wrong  ???
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on July 02, 2007, 12:11:33 PM
oops your right. my bad. 
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 02, 2007, 02:34:18 PM
Well I stopped by the Street Team Network booth at Warped today to pick up some HIM material and noticed something interesting on the stickers. I'm guessing this confirms the rumors of "Kiss Of Dawn" being the first single.

Front

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/and1soulja408/myspace/untitled-7.jpg[/url])

Back

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/and1soulja408/myspace/DSC02188.jpg[/url])


I got four of those the other day. Hot topic was not promoting them, but a buddy of mine who works there  is into promoting all music industry, and mainly for the Project tour.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 02, 2007, 02:53:30 PM
Yeah, I went to the Street Team Network tent and told them I was on the HIM street team and they gave me like 150 of the stickers. I'm gonna put some up around my campus.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 03, 2007, 11:42:11 AM
Rumor has it, the tracklist is not final for VD.

Possibly a new song cover will be abound?

Wait and see.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 03, 2007, 12:16:37 PM
hopefully they finally do a studio cover of rebel yell or something or black sabbath
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 03, 2007, 01:09:42 PM
hopefully they finally do a studio cover of rebel yell or something or black sabbath
I think they just killed all hope for me after that Black Sabbath song.
As much as I used to like them, they crushed that hope when they did that "amazing" cover.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SmokeAndMirrors on July 03, 2007, 09:48:16 PM
From Wiki:
Venus Doom will be a 2-Disk release with one CD of music and a DVD of bandwork.


Anyone know anything about this?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Mat1az on July 04, 2007, 03:26:00 AM
Sounds cool, but I guess that will be some sort of limited edition/digi-pack versione... if I know my HIM realises right  :P
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 04, 2007, 05:08:30 AM
does wiki = wikipedia?  because if it does, it could say anythimg.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: DrowningInShadows on July 04, 2007, 03:37:51 PM
How could any H.I.M. fan even think of saying "H.I.M. is dead"?

How is H.I.M. dead?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on July 04, 2007, 03:43:28 PM
How could any H.I.M. fan even think of saying "H.I.M. is dead"?

How is H.I.M. dead?

first of all its HIM son but if that floats your boat its cool..

second of all you have to admit that HIM isnt the same they've become more americanized ( i still like them dont get me wrong)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Wille Wallo on July 05, 2007, 02:17:54 AM
How could any H.I.M. fan even think of saying "H.I.M. is dead"?

How is H.I.M. dead?

first of all its HIM son but if that floats your boat its cool..

second of all you have to admit that HIM isnt the same they've become more americanized ( i still like them dont get me wrong)


I don't think they have changed, i just think their in the public eye more now. I mean at one point we only heard form the band every now and then. Nowadays they have a magazine interview/article every month! We are prying into their lives more now then ever!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: The Bloody Glove on July 05, 2007, 04:43:46 AM
the only reason u probably feel that they are "americanized" is because others are saying they are "americanized"

but they still are finnish, they still make their music to their liking

if you compare HIM to american bands there is no comparison

HIM is totally original and seperate from a lot of bands out there to date

the only thing that shows them straying from their traditions was the dark light album cover and the alternate video of killing loneliness

of course i don't think those were exactly their ideas themselves

more pushed on them by the record companies

there is no difference from the spellings either

HIM
H-I-M
H.I.M
His Infernal Majesty

who gives a shit

its whatever is your liking

and its not "officially" HIM

the way you spell it is how you like it


It can be whatever you want
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: smedlock on July 05, 2007, 06:38:35 AM
i'm pretty sure there is an official way to spell it...still yea ppl can spell it however thay want, it'l always be HIM for me
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dahaka on July 05, 2007, 07:21:07 AM
no they are americanized and its saying a finnish person , trust me,, we all know what are we talking about. USA ruins bands... watch within temptation  ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Danny on July 05, 2007, 07:30:14 AM
How could any H.I.M. fan even think of saying "H.I.M. is dead"?

How is H.I.M. dead?

first of all its HIM son but if that floats your boat its cool..

second of all you have to admit that HIM isnt the same they've become more americanized ( i still like them dont get me wrong)
I dont think they have been "americanized" they just got slapped with a big doze of "mainstream",haha. If you listen to all those CRAPPY american bands you can clearly hear that HIM is not anything like them even tho they decided to make crappy pop music in DL. But still i have som faith in them after all i`ve heard about the new record. Really looking forward to september ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 05, 2007, 08:00:42 AM
warner brothers and tim palmer F**ked HIM right over. in my opinion, Dark light sounded like some crappy american idol style rubbish. i love HIM, love their first  four albums and have done for over 5 years but i think dark light is pure awful. lets hope Venus doom is better!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: koohai on July 05, 2007, 08:01:56 AM
no they are americanized and its saying a finnish person , trust me,, we all know what are we talking about. USA ruins bands... watch within temptation  ;)
True. HIM, Within Temptation, 69 Eyes... >:(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 05, 2007, 10:19:15 AM
I wish I could grow an afro and sweet mutton chops.  >:(
hahaha me too!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: The Bloody Glove on July 05, 2007, 04:43:04 PM
no they are americanized and its saying a finnish person , trust me,, we all know what are we talking about. USA ruins bands... watch within temptation  ;)

USA dont ruin bands

money ruins bands
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: snuffupakiss on July 05, 2007, 06:38:14 PM
wonder if there will be different versions of the cd out there? with extras, etc..
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 05, 2007, 06:59:33 PM
wonder if there will be different versions of the cd out there? with extras, etc..

I expect there will be a similar thing to Dark Light, I think someone else mentioned that there will be a pack thing, like the alternative DL release.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: snuffupakiss on July 05, 2007, 07:11:24 PM
wonder if there will be different versions of the cd out there? with extras, etc..

I expect there will be a similar thing to Dark Light, I think someone else mentioned that there will be a pack thing, like the alternative DL release.
if it happens, i'll be getting that for sure. add to my wee/growing collection.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 05, 2007, 07:14:15 PM
wonder if there will be different versions of the cd out there? with extras, etc..

I expect there will be a similar thing to Dark Light, I think someone else mentioned that there will be a pack thing, like the alternative DL release.
if it happens, i'll be getting that for sure. add to my wee/growing collection.

Hehe, definately.

Maybe we will get a bonus track or two  ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: The Bloody Glove on July 05, 2007, 08:33:36 PM
Hell Yes
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 06, 2007, 06:21:05 PM
Well supposedly the image from the Warped sticker is a portion of the actual album art for Venus Doom. The color was changed, as to not reveal too much about the artwork.

Right click/view for clearer image

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/and1soulja408/myspace/untitled2.jpg)

Here are some mock up red/orange images I made.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/and1soulja408/myspace/untitled2orange.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/and1soulja408/myspace/untitled2red.jpg)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on July 06, 2007, 07:41:08 PM

USA dont ruin bands

money ruins bands

And HIM saves money by using old CD covers
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Morningrise on July 06, 2007, 08:54:56 PM
Looks like a landscape to me. Possibly a painting?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on July 07, 2007, 06:57:21 AM
Yeah, the background has a 'painted look'



From the Video thread:
I found this links with interview with Ville Valo, I think from studio.
[url]http://www.yfly.com/show/518613[/url]

Around 2:30 what does he say? Some like
"It's been a ... How long was it? A song called Cyanide Sun I've been writing for five years"
Kinda interesting, that must be before LM.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: nirvanist22 on July 07, 2007, 04:56:32 PM
i really have a feeling this album is going to suck even worse than DL. except maybe Cyanide Sun (because he's been writing that so long)

PKF is honestly the worst HIM song i've ever heard.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 08, 2007, 06:38:36 AM
Meh. I am not gonna sit here and tell you that it is the best song of HIM. But I am not gonna agree with you either.
It's pretty bittersweet. Either take it or leave it.

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 08, 2007, 08:46:51 AM
Kiss of Dawn live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyXdLjYwsLQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uc1Www0cTg
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 08, 2007, 09:25:03 AM
The usual

H.I.M. Singer Talks About Heavier, Darker, New Album

posted Wednesday, July 4, 2007 at 09:36:56 PM by deathbringer. (thanks Blabbermouth)

H.I.M. frontman Ville Valo said in interview that the band's upcoming album, "Venus Doom", is a darker and heavier effort than its previous CD, 2005's "Dark Light". Valo explained, "There's...a lot of SABBATH and old-school METALLICA (in there). I wanted the album to be more aggressive, heavier and more out there."

The new direction also allowed Valo to switch up vocally. "I wanted to sing lower — use my baritone a lot more," he said. "When all those influences come together, it's like, 'I wanna do that [Mark] Lanegan, Leonard Cohen-y type of vibe.'"

Valo added that the disc's tentative first single, "Kiss of Dawn", was inspired by the suicide of one of his best friends. Valo said, "The whole song is a tribute to him. It's also a love song. I love that dude. He was a great friend of mine. We hung out and had great f***ing conversations. It's a celebration of life, rather than death."

H.I.M. will have a chance to see how the new stuff stacks up with METALLICA when they open a few dates in Europe for the metal gods. "It's going to be fun," Valo said. "I grew up with 'Master of Puppets'. For us it's kind of scary to play such big places. Wembley [Stadium] is like 70, 80,000 people. It's a totally new experience."

"Venus Doom" is due out on September 18.

A new H.I.M. track called "Passion's Killing Floor" can be heard on the soundtrack of the movie "Transformers", which arrives in stores on Tuesday (July 3).
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: eairthrow on July 08, 2007, 09:29:15 AM
Awesome song! I../
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on July 08, 2007, 02:57:13 PM
I'm not even gonna attempt those lyrics until I hear a better version... I can kinda hear the Chorus, I guess I can try and take a swing at that one... Stay Tuned!

*EDIT* Only thing I can make out is "I'm reaching for your shadows of"
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 08, 2007, 05:18:11 PM
Here is a better version of Kiss of Dawn. You can actually hear the vocals/keyboard in these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm_4C-Evwlo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ClicbGMaQA
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Umberlee on July 08, 2007, 05:33:10 PM
Not going to make any solid comment on this song until I hear the studio version. But it does sound awesome live.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lovemetal626 on July 08, 2007, 09:19:39 PM
hi, im new here, just moved here from the official forums on heartagram.com


anyways, after i listen to PKF and this new song  Kiss of Dawn, i think it really does sound like more  Love Metal'ish mixed in with HIM's new sound.

awesome, i cant wait till sept. 18. 07 god im dying here.

ill get the super duper extra special crazy limited edition if there is one  ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 09, 2007, 02:39:33 PM
I don't get why alot of people are complaining that the album isn't going to be heavy enough. Why should it be heavy at all? (Apart from that Ville said it would be).

RR was pop - and as fas as I can tell most HIM people loved that sound and for alot it was their first hearing of HIM.
Personally, Greatest Lovesongs is my favourite HIM style - and that's dark - not heavy.
A mixture of those two styles (RR/GLSV666) would be perfect for me.


Exactly.

I personally think that RR/GLS mix would be quite rad  ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 09, 2007, 02:52:59 PM
I know I have loved it.

I still listen to RR on repeat.

So good.

As well as DSaBH
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Danny on July 09, 2007, 03:44:28 PM
I don't get why alot of people are complaining that the album isn't going to be heavy enough. Why should it be heavy at all? (Apart from that Ville said it would be).

RR was pop - and as fas as I can tell most HIM people loved that sound and for alot it was their first hearing of HIM.
Personally, Greatest Lovesongs is my favourite HIM style - and that's dark - not heavy.
A mixture of those two styles (RR/GLSV666) would be perfect for me.

yes,that album is dark,but also heavy. Really guitar and drums orientated :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 09, 2007, 04:15:58 PM
i think he means heavier rather then heavy :-\
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: muschy on July 09, 2007, 05:06:16 PM
i have basically come to the conclusion that i will like any new HIM stuff right when its released.... and then about a year later i will finally decide whether i really enjoyed it or not.......

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 09, 2007, 05:29:02 PM
I know I have loved it.

I still listen to RR on repeat.

So good.

As well as DSaBH

Agreed, the albums just don't age with me.

i have basically come to the conclusion that i will like any new HIM stuff right when its released.... and then about a year later i will finally decide whether i really enjoyed it or not.......



I think I only changed my opinion on a release with Dark Light.  But again I don't dislike that album at all.  I think its because we almost get dillusioned because its new stuff  ;D

I really liking the way this album is sounding so far and all I have heard is two live clips and Passion's Killing Floor.  I like these songs more than Wings Of A Butterfly and Killing Loneliness which I also heard early.  Tis promising.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on July 09, 2007, 11:25:04 PM
I'm not sure if I'm hallucinating or what, but I thought, for a moment, I saw something that said "Click here to open up (some media player) to preview 3 new HIM songs" or something like that. I think I might just be tired.

EDIT - now that I look at it, if I connect different texts from the main page, I see where I thought I saw that from. Nevermind guys, false alarm.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Umberlee on July 09, 2007, 11:47:13 PM
I still listen to RR on repeat.
So good.

I absolutly love RR!!!! And GLS666.
In my personal opinion their best albums were from RR to Love Metal.  I like DL, but I don't love it as much as the rest of HIM's albums.  So far what has been released or leaked sounds really good.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on July 10, 2007, 01:23:36 PM
i have basically come to the conclusion that i will like any new HIM stuff right when its released.... and then about a year later i will finally decide whether i really enjoyed it or not.......



Same. When I first got DL I thought it was awesome. Now though - not impressed.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 10, 2007, 01:26:57 PM
I agree, when dark light came out i was excited as all hell, picking up the limited internet edition version and even the regular cd. Now I never listen to it. I hope Venus Doom is better then Dark Light and I don't just leave it lying around in my car.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 10, 2007, 02:10:34 PM
I caught myself listening to
The Cage
Face of God
VH

I never really do that.

But like I said.
I am a lyrical person.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 10, 2007, 03:37:32 PM
My favorite tracks were Under the Rose, Drunk on Shadows and The Face of God.  The two bonus tracks were good, I thought.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 10, 2007, 03:48:15 PM
I still listen to Under The Rose and Vampire Heart regularly, but that's about it. I always burn HIM "mix" Cds for my car, and most of the time it's mainly RR and DSBH stuff, peppered with a good mix of GLS666 and Love Metal. DL...not so much. Hell, I listen to Uneasy Listening 2 stuff more than Dark Light.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 10, 2007, 03:50:10 PM
Oh man I know.
I am all over Rescue. Not to mention those good ole RR demo's.

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on July 10, 2007, 08:53:09 PM
You know what I think it is... it's not that the DL album wasn't good.... it's just that the songs get old fast unlike their past ones. I know that I fell in love with every song on DL except for DL itself lol but after constantly playing the CD over and over, it got old and that's when I started not likings some of it. I'm gonna be honest though... I havn't listened to DL since maybe almost a year, and I popped it in the other day and I enjoyed it... I still don't see why The Cage and Venus where not on the original albums, those songs were really good I thought.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: FRO on July 10, 2007, 10:24:48 PM
i wonder why no one is talking about the kiss of dawn sheet music...1


Edit:
Please excusse thiss post, i was surfing on my phonne at the time... ::)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 11, 2007, 12:02:13 PM
sheet music talk is in the kiss of dawn forum
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on July 11, 2007, 03:30:43 PM
sheet music talk is in the kiss of dawn thread
There.

And nobody is discussing it much because... well... most people on this forum don't read sheet music  :D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: FRO on July 11, 2007, 04:07:26 PM
sheet music talk is in the kiss of dawn forum

Like i said in my previous post, when I posted that, I was su=rfing the net on my cell and I didn't realise that it was in the kiss of dawn thread till later. So yea I know that it is being discussed in that thread.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 11, 2007, 10:41:30 PM
My friend says he is downloading a link. I asked him for a hash for the torrent, but he refuses to give it up cos he thinks it could be a virus.

Dunce.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 12, 2007, 02:10:19 PM
Well considering that the Promo is going to be released in America in a couple of days for some Magazines I might say that it might have already be out through friends. But not yet on the Net.
I am expecting mine from a friend from Finland.
Though I am more anxious to get the Entwine Singles than this Promo more than anything.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 12, 2007, 07:35:35 PM
i dont like this whole idea of people recording the song and sending it in but if anyone get the sheet music i would like it i recently learnt how to read it
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 12, 2007, 08:50:17 PM
i dont like this whole idea of people recording the song and sending it in but if anyone get the sheet music i would like it i recently learnt how to read it


I am confuzzled.
You mean the lyrical notes or the rhythm arrangement?

From the looks of it they just gave you the E-Z Score sheet. Nothing that may look like it is the whole transcript.
Pretty boring if you ask me.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 12, 2007, 10:26:53 PM
(http://www.large-online.nl/ACfrG/productimg/4/432689.jpg)
Possibly the cover. This was found on a European web shop. It does look like the promo sticker could have indeed come from this image...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 12, 2007, 10:31:43 PM
yeah thats it. i had that for a while i sent it to jay to start making a new web layout for the site but i didn't post it cause my friend who i got it from told me not to. cause it might get him in trouble lol. mine has the him logo on the top above her head and but it doesn't have the line going through it anymore. it looks like the backround they have been using for there metallica shows kinda looks more like a horror movie type font now the m kinda has a dripping effect like blood or something. it's also a painting that ville did.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 12, 2007, 11:48:24 PM
([url]http://www.large-online.nl/ACfrG/productimg/4/432689.jpg[/url])
Possibly the cover. This was found on a European web shop. It does look like the promo sticker could have indeed come from this image...


Just a promo.

Jay... we have a leak. lol
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 13, 2007, 12:37:13 AM
hold on, that is gonna be the cover of the cd??? Im confsued. If that is the cover of the Cd im gonna be really pist. I mean its a great painting I like it alot, but not as a cd cover... im sry.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 13, 2007, 01:48:10 AM
I never posted it either.  That's not the one I used for the VD layout; I cropped it up and added some ripped graphics to the side.

Now I almost want to post the VD layout sample.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 13, 2007, 07:40:33 AM
i like it :) anyone got a pic of the metallica show backdrop?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 13, 2007, 07:52:34 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/ddpgambit/newhimlogo.jpg)

It's not super clear, but you can see how they changed the logo.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Bender Bending R. on July 13, 2007, 08:31:41 AM
([url]http://www.large-online.nl/ACfrG/productimg/4/432689.jpg[/url])
Possibly the cover. This was found on a European web shop. It does look like the promo sticker could have indeed come from this image...

which shop, too much ugly to be real! i dont like nothing, where is venus there?
but its look a bit like some ville paintings i saw time ago
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 13, 2007, 10:13:44 AM
thanks Daedalus, i think the new font looks awful  :-\   but yes i like the album cover :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 13, 2007, 11:33:02 AM
Heres a shot I got from Wembley of the background.

(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2214/backfp3.png)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 13, 2007, 11:56:51 AM
Yeah, it looks as though they're gonna drop the line-through thing.  As for the painting, it could signify the doom of Venus, as that's a very unfortunate-looking person in the painting. 

The painting is one Ville was supposed to have done while in New Orleans or something. 
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 13, 2007, 01:40:06 PM
Maybe the painting is dedicated to his friend who had commited suicide.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Bender Bending R. on July 13, 2007, 01:53:41 PM
look, this picture from oslo is something like the painting

(http://www.aftonbladet.se/noje/0707/13/NYHETER-13s36-himintervju-35_438.jpg)

VILLE DOOM
VALO DOOM
no?

which is better for the album?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 13, 2007, 02:56:42 PM
Oh dear god.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 13, 2007, 03:10:45 PM
I ain't queer or nuthin', but *sniffle* What the hell happened to him?  He's getting...old.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on July 13, 2007, 04:49:11 PM
I ain't queer or nuthin', but *sniffle* What the hell happened to him?  He's getting...old.
It doesn't help that the image is also heavily edited (or is it a painting?)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 13, 2007, 04:54:28 PM
That best be his biological father.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Danny on July 13, 2007, 07:52:39 PM
It is seriously the official one. Just check their blog on myspace.
I think it looks kinda strange ::)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: LonelyRoad on July 13, 2007, 09:21:31 PM
i dont like it at all.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 13, 2007, 09:46:15 PM
They should have gone with the original cover

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/and1soulja408/myspace/untitled-8.jpg)

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on July 13, 2007, 09:50:51 PM
They should have gone with the original cover

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/and1soulja408/myspace/untitled-8.jpg[/url])




Business in the front PARTY in the back YO!!!!!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 13, 2007, 10:20:44 PM
I gotta respect them for trying something different. I love the cover art, but I just don't like the new logo. HIM's logo is the same as the coca cola logo me. Whenever I see it, it just feels right. When I first got into HIM one of the things I instantly recognized was that the logo just felt like it belonged to them. The new one seems too generic for my tastes.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 13, 2007, 10:23:46 PM
What new logo are you referring to?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on July 13, 2007, 10:36:14 PM
Heres a shot I got from Wembley of the background.

([url]http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2214/backfp3.png[/url])


this 0ne last
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 13, 2007, 10:51:24 PM
I don't think they are changing the logo. They probably just thought it would look better to have stand alone letters in front of the heartagram for the stage set. Probably easier to handle a large H, I, and M cut out then a whole H-I-M cut out. The promo flyers they are handing out at Warped still have the original logo on them.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 13, 2007, 11:35:40 PM
mine has the him logo on the top above her head and but it doesn't have the line going through it anymore. it looks like the backround they have been using for there metallica shows kinda looks more like a horror movie type font now the m kinda has a dripping effect like blood or something. it's

That's what I'm refering to. Apparently, at least for the album cover and this tour, they are using a different logo.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on July 14, 2007, 04:12:09 AM
Bigger resolution artwork from http://warnerreprise.com site (wtf! it took AGES to open):
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/449/himvenuscover1pq8.jpg
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 14, 2007, 04:16:26 PM
clip of Venus Doom? or maybe Ville is just improv singing telling people about the new album

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oNECDkjErLI
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 14, 2007, 05:13:52 PM
It sounds like it's just him improvising during The Sacrament.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 14, 2007, 05:20:13 PM
yeah, you're right
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 14, 2007, 05:24:30 PM
Has anyone seen this recent interview yet?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bPn1B2rBBmk
Ville makes the very distinct comment, "We used to be a love metal band."
I'm not sure what to think of that.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 14, 2007, 05:49:45 PM
he doesn't look too good in that interview...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on July 14, 2007, 05:52:09 PM
Question and answers starts around 03:20

The question is:
Lies behind the new Doom-sound the search to a new music-direction?

The quote, with rough translation:
Quote
...
"Das ist das, was wir wollten"
That is what we wanted

"aber wir sehen uns weiterhin als Love Metal band"
but we still see us as a Love Metal band


That is something else then "we used to be a Love Metal band"

Ville still talks when the video stops, so maybe he says more that we don't see, but the video-editors did hear.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on July 14, 2007, 10:42:56 PM
I think he's trying to say that venus doom isn't much about love... unlike the songs before, which makes sense. He was talking about Doom metal, maybe he's saying that's what they are now.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on July 15, 2007, 05:08:00 AM
I have some more info for Venus Doom:

01. Venus Doom                    5:08
02. Love In Cold Blood            5:54
03. Passion's Killing Floor        5:12
04. Kiss Of Dawn                   5:54
05. Sleepwalking Past Hope   10:05
06. Dead Lover's Lane            4:28
07. Song Or Suicide               1:13
08. Bleed Well                      4:25
09. Cyanide Sun                    5:55
10. Ville Talking                    0:33

 :D ;D ;) :o
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on July 15, 2007, 05:56:26 AM
should be interesting listening to a 10 mins HIM song
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 15, 2007, 06:52:10 AM
Christ on a bike...ten minutes?  Cool!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on July 15, 2007, 07:50:51 AM
07. Song Or Suicide               1:13
10. Ville Talking                    0:33

I'm more surprised by this tracks


Where is Ville talking about? Or is that only on the promo?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 15, 2007, 09:31:36 AM
Whatever happened to the shortest song being 5 minutes?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: bigbadbowzer on July 15, 2007, 11:04:28 AM
but why do we need yet another recording of ville talking, kinda weak
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on July 15, 2007, 12:03:30 PM
Track 7 is a nice acoustic song with Ville's lovely heavy voice :)
About the track with Ville Talking it's sth like a hidden track I don't know if it's gonna make it in the retail album... A spooky background "music effect" is played and he says:

"Yo, it's Ville... ummm everything's perfect... I'm getting tanned... fucking bored... playing pool... uhhh met some really nice people... eating great food... uhhh come to rescue me HAHAHAHAHA! Now, two more weeks to go and I'm off and I'll kick your ass! Right, catch you later brother, buh..." and he hangs up!  ???

About the "brother" word I'm not sure... But that's what I heared! :P
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 15, 2007, 01:36:11 PM
I thought only rap albums had skits on them.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 15, 2007, 01:52:34 PM
Haven't you heard? That's the new direction for HIM post Venus Doom. Ville has said that he wants to "get crunk". Or maybe it was "get drunk"?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on July 15, 2007, 02:58:22 PM
I have to say that Venus Doom is sounding less awesome  :'(  and I'm really not liking that artwork... Hopefully it'll still turn out great
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 15, 2007, 03:32:44 PM
Everything I've heard so far sounds great. Can't wait to hear studio versions of Kiss of Dawn and Dead Lover's Lane! About the artwork, maybe this is only the art for the front of the jewel case, and it will be inside of a sleeve featuring different artwork. It doesn't even say HIM or Venus Doom on it. Then again, that could easily be fixed with a sticker.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 15, 2007, 06:17:15 PM
I have to say that Venus Doom is sounding less awesome  :'(  and I'm really not liking that artwork... Hopefully it'll still turn out great

Until we hear what the content is we can't judge whether it is good or bad.

To be fair, Passion's Killing Floor, Dead Lover's Lane and Kiss of Dawn all sound REALLY good tracks.

We'll see...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Amourder on July 16, 2007, 07:40:08 AM
10 minutes for a HIM song, without it being the last song of an album, sounds great. Of course, 3 minutes of song and 7 minutes of coda kind of sucks, but 10 minutes of trippy progressive love metal would be fantastic.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on July 16, 2007, 08:56:10 AM
This 10 minute song is my favorite from the album for now... It's a great song with a very catchy chorus... And it's like 3 songs in one in structure!  ;D

MiLToS_666
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on July 16, 2007, 08:58:49 AM
It'll probably be great but it's all the waiting around and annoying competitions putting me off...

A 10 minute song sounds interesting I really can't wait to hear it now
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 16, 2007, 10:07:48 AM
ok this person is talking about hearing the album already...why cant u just put it on the forum... nt trying to be mean im just asing and relaly excited for the Doom!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on July 16, 2007, 10:26:20 AM
all of the early released ones are tagged so any leak can have the source located
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: HrtacheEveryMoment on July 16, 2007, 11:36:17 AM
Haha, that album cover is ridiculous. And only 9 actual tracks? What a boner kill... Really..
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 16, 2007, 12:22:39 PM
Miltos has already said he doesn't have the CD...he heard it at some party.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on July 16, 2007, 05:09:57 PM
And only 9 actual tracks? What a boner kill... Really..
Quantity VS. Quality
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 16, 2007, 05:11:13 PM
I still feel they are gonna add a cover of some sort. Not to mention, GLSV666 only had 9 tracks. And look how good that was.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Crimmins on July 16, 2007, 05:41:39 PM
I have some more info for Venus Doom:

01. Venus Doom                    5:08
02. Love In Cold Blood            5:54
03. Passion's Killing Floor        5:12
04. Kiss Of Dawn                   5:54
05. Sleepwalking Past Hope   10:05
06. Dead Lover's Lane            4:28
07. Song Or Suicide               1:13
08. Bleed Well                      4:25
09. Cyanide Sun                    5:55
10. Ville Talking                    0:33

 :D ;D ;) :o

Kiss of Dawn is almost 6 min.? isnt the live version only like 4 and a half? does that mean mean more Dark Light-esque Interludes and stuff
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 16, 2007, 06:09:18 PM
Well it seems Ville did not paint the artwork for the album. Ville Valoa on the official heartagram forum posted this.

"The painting was a passerby choice.

He saw the painting while walking the streets or something along those lines. He automatically fell in love with it and decided it HAD to be the next album cover."
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: purple dove on July 16, 2007, 06:13:14 PM
I really like the cover I'm happy there is no words or a hearagram on it, something different. I think they are trying to break away from the cliché they created for themselves with this cd.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: jeanett on July 16, 2007, 06:54:30 PM
I liked the painting... but not as the album cover. it could have been great as part of the cover, maybe inside it or something.

the heartagram thing is HIM for me but it doesn't have to be the cover on every album... A small one some where at the cover is good enough for me.
but if was a painting painted by Ville, it could have been nice as the cover for the "kiss of dawn" singel

they say the album  is heavyer and darker... that cover says pretty much everything except that
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 16, 2007, 09:17:12 PM
I still feel they are gonna add a cover of some sort. Not to mention, GLSV666 only had 9 tracks. And look how good that was.

QFT.

How can people take it out on this album when it hasn't even been released? Patience sweethearts.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 17, 2007, 03:20:04 AM
Eh...whatever, to be honest it's not about the artwork , it's about the music for me... the cover could be a big flamming penis and the music could kick ass and i wouldnt give a shit.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 17, 2007, 03:27:36 AM
lol@penis
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 17, 2007, 03:28:55 AM
I still feel they are gonna add a cover of some sort. Not to mention, GLSV666 only had 9 tracks. And look how good that was.

QFT.

How can people take it out on this album when it hasn't even been released? Patience sweethearts.

And I did not mean album cover, I meant song cover, i am very anxious to taste this album.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on July 17, 2007, 03:29:39 AM
Miltos has already said he doesn't have the CD...he heard it at some party.

I got a CD-R copy of the promo CD already Jay, thanks for backing me up though. :-*
I don't want to play smart to all the people here, I'm posting some info about the songs and nothing more.
If you don't like this fact I could as well shut up and leave! The last thing I ever want is people to start bitching at me! If that makes you happy think about sth else: There are thousands of promo copies out there given around "selected" people... That's how promotion works in the first place...  ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 17, 2007, 03:47:12 AM
Yeah, so if I see ANY posts, of you guys bugging him for it. I will kick some ass.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 17, 2007, 03:51:32 AM
yeah he's a lucky man :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 17, 2007, 07:50:10 AM
Lucky, lucky, lucky. So Miltos, according to your opinion which will be the most successfull song in the album ?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on July 17, 2007, 09:55:12 AM
I already got 5 PMs with requests... Get serious people! I can "hook" noone "up" and I don't care how trustworthy you are and how you've been a member of this forum! No means NO!!! Leaking this means serious trouble! There will be a leak from a release group someday, there always have been leaks! If I get another PM with such a request I will post the sender's name and message here...  >:(
As for lyrics, I'm not the best in doing that and english is not my mothertongue! :-X
My favorite for this album is "Sleepwalking Past Hope"...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SmokeAndMirrors on July 17, 2007, 11:50:03 AM
So, exactly how heavy is it overall? What's the heaviest track and what's the lightest?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 17, 2007, 12:25:42 PM
yay! come on september 18th!!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on July 17, 2007, 01:01:36 PM
So, exactly how heavy is it overall? What's the heaviest track and what's the lightest?

Read a couple of pages back, I said that to me it sounds something like a mixture of RR and Love Metal but with better production, bigger overall sound and heavier guitar riffs... Linde's solos are great, Gas shines and Mige plays a major part too. As for keyboards, they are not everywhere like previous albums but when they play their part, it's great! Ville's voice is in a great shape and he gives us some very deep vocals in some songs. I can't decide for the heaviest track yet cause opinions change but the llightest is of course the 1 minute ballad.  :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: 0401695 on July 17, 2007, 04:40:44 PM
have you guys seen this?? New Ville interview...

http://www.yfly.com/media/view/62144
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 17, 2007, 04:43:15 PM
have you guys seen this?? New Ville interview...

[url]http://www.yfly.com/media/view/62144[/url]


yeah i've seen this already not sure if it was posted already or not but thank you.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 17, 2007, 04:43:47 PM
Yeah. It's actually a few months old. It was posted in here somewhere, but thanks for bring it back lol
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: 0401695 on July 17, 2007, 04:54:45 PM
sorry...that was new to me....Drunken finn!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on July 17, 2007, 05:47:37 PM
Venus Doom will be a 2-disc release?
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/id/1061532

Quote
Track listing


Disc 1:
1. Venus Doom
2. Love in Cold Blood
3. Passion's Killing Floor
4. Kiss of Dawn
5. Sleepwalking Past Hope
6. Dead Lover's Lane
7. Song or Suicide
8. Bleedwell
9. Cyanide Sun


Disc 2:
1. DVD Content
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 17, 2007, 06:17:14 PM
So it seems. I'm waiting for official info to pre-order mine.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 17, 2007, 06:40:13 PM
Knowing HIM, there will no doubt be a limited edition, special poonjab edition, limited unlimited doom edition, the rarer than rare, but not quite rare enough edition that you can only buy from Ville himself.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on July 17, 2007, 07:43:23 PM
someone knows where i can get the promo ?

i can't find the promo in some internet shop!!! u.u here in mexico is so hard to get this promo >.< and no one upload the promo in internet... 

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( I'm Dying!!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 17, 2007, 09:16:23 PM
Maybe because it's not supposed to be on an internet shop..

This waiting is hard for all, not just only for you.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on July 17, 2007, 09:48:00 PM
someone knows where i can get the promo ?

i can't find the promo in some internet shop!!! u.u here in mexico is so hard to get this promo >.< and no one upload the promo in internet... 

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( I'm Dying!!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

im sure it will pop up soon on ebay... i meet some people from the kroq radio station here in LA and i think i might get some promo stuff
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on July 18, 2007, 03:48:33 AM
ROFL @ Jay's post!!!  :D ;D

HIM-Valo: Promo albums are something that you cannot buy from an internet shop!!! All promo albums I have seen on ebay were auctioned AFTER the album's release! It's highly illegal to sell it before the album comes out!

And no, you're not dying from something like this, you're only anxious like everyone else, including me...  ::)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on July 18, 2007, 03:51:31 AM
how can get the promo the other guys (in HIM concerts???) ?
and how much the promo? XD

I'm dying T.T it's true XD...  :-X :-[ :'(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Danny on July 18, 2007, 07:51:14 AM
how can get the promo the other guys (in HIM concerts???) ?
and how much the promo? XD

I'm dying T.T it's true XD...  :-X :-[ :'(
Are you stupid or something...Just read what miltos said.
And they are not handed out on HIM concert,HAHA. They realesed to press and stuff. So just calm down and wait to september like the rest of us
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: LonelyRoad on July 18, 2007, 09:47:27 AM
damn...

you guys need to stop asking miltos for stuff...

puts him in a bad position.

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.

poop on all of your faces.


now send me the songs...lol...

but for reals...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on July 18, 2007, 11:18:28 AM
The cover art was painted by David Harouni.

http://www.marketwire.com/2.0/release.do?id=751766&sourceType=1
Quote
The cover art for "Venus Doom" was painted by artist David Harouni. Singer Ville Valo purchased one of Harouni's paintings at New Orleans' Harouni Gallery (where the artist represents himself) and later asked Harouni if it could be used as the cover for "Venus Doom." Harouni (whose work can be viewed at [url]http://www.harouni.com[/url]) agreed and now counts himself as a HIM fan. Also we now have recent photographs taken by renowned photographer Perou, who has also shot Marilyn Manson, Sigur Ros, and David Beckham.



www.contactmusic.com
Quote
Finnish goth rocker VILLE VALO discovered the cover art for HIM's new album VENUS DOOM during a shopping trip around New Orleans, Louisiana. The singer stumbled upon artist Harouni during a trip to America and decided one of his paintings would be perfect for the group's new release. After buying the art piece, Valo asked Harouni if he could use it for his band's cover, and, after listening to Him, the artist agreed. A band spokesman says, "Harouni now counts himself as a Him fan."
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 18, 2007, 02:02:38 PM
For those of you who are interested in checking out the same idea of splash watercolour painting that Harouni does, http://www.marilynmansonimages.com/mansonpaintings.htm.
It is mainly a German inspired look since most of that was created through splash painting, though you can tell oil based was used in some frames so the thickness of goo can stick to the art and give it another dimension.
Perou has created a lot of famous material as well, but that is another subject for one to talk about.
Harker beat me to the idea of describing the Art.
:)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 18, 2007, 03:35:29 PM
...ok?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 18, 2007, 03:48:09 PM
with a fake copy of Venus Doom?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on July 18, 2007, 03:51:58 PM
...who isn't online at the moment
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on July 18, 2007, 05:13:50 PM
He doesn't have a copy of the promo haha.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: muschy on July 18, 2007, 09:26:04 PM
whats with the new intro thing to heartagram.com

the secret code????? good, this is some interesting stuff from the gatekeeper it seems
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 18, 2007, 09:40:36 PM
Listen at 47 seconds remaining in the video. You can hear a new song!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: muschy on July 18, 2007, 09:41:35 PM
well we have to start cracking this code
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: muschy on July 18, 2007, 09:44:40 PM
yeah it seems as if it is the video.... i bet emails will be sent out like last time
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 18, 2007, 09:57:09 PM
i bet the code is somewhere in the video...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 18, 2007, 10:20:27 PM
i don't know what we are supposed to go by though either there are no hints >:(
i wonder if it has somethign to do with what he said in the liveversion of the sacrament from brussels something like her name is venus doom ??
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 18, 2007, 10:33:41 PM
nice find!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 18, 2007, 10:43:43 PM
thats weird i wonder why that comes up.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 18, 2007, 10:44:14 PM
"venus" is probably a clue or part of the key
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on July 18, 2007, 11:01:40 PM
maybe it's a lyric part of the Venus Doom song...

*edit*

someone can hear the new song of the video???... when ville is singing.. maybe it's the key
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 18, 2007, 11:07:39 PM
yeah i thought i heard him singing in there too but if he is at all it's very faint and very hard to hear
edit: since he emphasized masterpiece in the interview i tried venus de milo but it didn't work lol i figured i had to at least try it lol
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on July 18, 2007, 11:22:10 PM
someone can say me what ville said about "peace"... i don't understand English but it will be a clue...
 ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 18, 2007, 11:25:02 PM
Fuck the gaykeeper.  He hasn't done shit.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 18, 2007, 11:27:45 PM
lol yeah i don't like him much either.

edit: in the video when ville is thanking the crowd befoer the venus doom song starts the symbol for venus pops up on the screen on the left side of him could be something.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 19, 2007, 12:54:54 AM
All that's gonna be behind is another damn door. Didn't we have like 2 or 3 doors last time till the WOAB video opened?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 19, 2007, 01:04:09 AM
It seems as in the video when u get onto heartagram, that Ville is very comfortable in this short little interview. All the times I have seen him talk he is very quiet and does not move around much. He seems very comfortable at what he is doing...very good job!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 19, 2007, 01:18:47 AM
Because I think he's actually proud of this album.  I think you can hear a bit of some new tracks in the background.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on July 19, 2007, 01:27:20 AM
I thought that too, but nothing really sticks out.


maybe something completly not to do with venus doom they do play alot of DL clips on there

dont know
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: synninviemaa66 on July 19, 2007, 01:52:06 AM
When you enter "venus" you get...

Continue this way
The true path is hidden deeper
Try again.

I'm thinking since you type in venus and you get that, and only that. No other word, that it is the meaning of venus. I tried everything I could think of. You guys give it a shot
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 19, 2007, 01:57:37 AM
Yeah it has something to do with Venus. I've tried everything though. I've gone through countless sites analyzing the symbol and venus for deeper meanings.

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/41a/41a7.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_%28mythology%29

In the video the symbol for Venus flashes for a fraction of a second. I think it's obvious the key has something to do with the symbol. I ripped the video and watched it frame by frame with VLC media player, but noticed no other clues (that stand out visually)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/xXxElementxXxBam/ss.jpg)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: synninviemaa66 on July 19, 2007, 02:05:11 AM
Does anyone have the old postcard with the keys on it? Because the key thing on the extras has the venus symbol, and didn't the symbols have letters to each symbol?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 19, 2007, 02:08:12 AM
uggg this is getting frustrating man i can't think anymore i also was looking at all kind of different web sites looking up deeper meanings for venus
and tried everything and nothing for results. i looked at the keys on old lock part and the venus symbol was there it was never used the first time though .
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: synninviemaa66 on July 19, 2007, 02:10:19 AM
Found my postcard the venus symbol = Q

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 19, 2007, 02:19:51 AM
not coming up with anything damn it
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 19, 2007, 02:57:16 AM
i just watched them both didn't see anything different though :-\
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on July 19, 2007, 03:38:45 AM
maybe other clue...

it will be "B F or E"?

 ???

(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4563/pistafw6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


and other clue will be the ___ lines o.o



**EDIT**

Searching more Clues...


Here's a letters??... FH? FM? mmm...
(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9452/pista22ue3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

and maybe it will be other clue..
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1746/pista3ad9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)



i need sleep XD hahaha  :P
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 19, 2007, 05:38:22 AM
I will give you a hint.

The video has nothing much to promote for this, just symbols you need your research in.

And the passcode is something lyrically.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: DarkDesigner on July 19, 2007, 06:28:45 AM
I will give you a hint.

The video has nothing much to promote for this, just symbols you need your research in.

And the passcode is something lyrically.

do you allready have the code then?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on July 19, 2007, 07:33:03 AM
The song that plays when Ville talks about Venus Doom is called "Bleed Well"...
I tried that as a code but it didn't work! :P
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 19, 2007, 07:54:36 AM
bleed well reminds me of the main song from sin city
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on July 19, 2007, 08:14:18 AM
This is awesome! I don't have a clue what it is, Buit it's awesome
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 09:22:33 AM
No clue, here.  :-\
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lovemetal626 on July 19, 2007, 09:31:44 AM
I will give you a hint.

The video has nothing much to promote for this, just symbols you need your research in.

And the passcode is something lyrically.


if you have the code please share  :'(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: DarkDesigner on July 19, 2007, 09:58:29 AM
yea=D..that would be a fantastic idea
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 10:36:40 AM
I won't try it since there's no hint. Someone clever will find out what it is and then we all would thank for that and see what it covers.

Good luck mates. I quit.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 19, 2007, 11:05:25 AM
i think it may have something to do with venus in our blood?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 12:16:39 PM
It would make no sense. Only people who have listened to the promo would have the key then since it's not that possible to extract the lyrics of bleed well from the 120s video.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 19, 2007, 01:25:07 PM
try 'venera' it gets the same reply as venus.

i tried it because of

 'The first robotic space probe mission to Venus, and the first to any planet, began on 12 February 1961 with the launch of the Venera 1 probe. The first craft of the otherwise highly successful Soviet Venera program, '

EDIT-

you get the message about looking deeper by typing

venus
venera
venera 1
venera 7
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: valo66.6 on July 19, 2007, 01:31:48 PM
thats fuckin crazy shit u came up with there only if we could figure out the rest of it....like is it 1 or 2 words...all together or wtf
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Umberlee on July 19, 2007, 01:43:39 PM
*growls in frustration and bangs head on desk* I have riped the video and looked at every frame, researched different things on or about venus mythology, the planet, etc. and I have come up with a whole lot of nothing. I am frustrated >:(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 19, 2007, 01:46:42 PM
but maybe the 1 and the 7 mean something?  ???
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Umberlee on July 19, 2007, 01:50:16 PM
Ville did say that he was playing music since he was 7...or something to that effect
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: valo66.6 on July 19, 2007, 01:59:10 PM
i know u's were sayin something about the number 7 n stuff but read over these lyrics n see if u can find ne clues from it

Venus (In Our Blood)

Her Heaven's a lie to those who threw away the key
Her God is alive and well when the heart of her believes
And you can't bend the river of her dreams
Or understand the divine words she speaks

Venus denies your seven towers above dark waters
You can quench your thirst with the fear hiding away from the day
Venus denies you in your dark waters
The moon kissed the sun and now we hold her in our blood

Her savior was never on a cross peirced with nails
Thirty peices of silver never retraced her mistake
She'll always be free from the arms of your sins
That made you weak as your world started crumbling

Venus denies your seven towers above dark waters
You can quench your thirst with the fear hiding away from the day
Venus denies you in your dark waters
The moon kissed the sun and now we hold her in our blood

(She's in our blood)
Venus denies your seven towers above dark waters
You can quench your thirst with the fear hiding away from the day
The venus denies you in your dark waters
The moon kissed the sun and now we hold her in our blood
In our blood
In our blood
In our blood
(She's in our blood)
 

 
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: snuffupakiss on July 19, 2007, 02:00:53 PM
what the hell could the answer be? i tried a couple times, then had a nap, lol.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 02:19:37 PM
@ Venus lyrics, there's also the thirty pieces of silver.

There is the 1 ( heaven;god , single ) , the 7 ( seven towers )and maybe there's the 30 too.

 :-\


Venus ( 1 ) denies your seven ( 7 ) towers above dark waters ( look deeper than venus )

Thirty ( 30 ) pieces of silver never retraced her mistake
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 19, 2007, 02:28:35 PM
this is getting confuzing ???

had a thought!! what does it say when you play the weird bit at the start of venus in our blood backwards?? i forgot
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: spike_africa on July 19, 2007, 02:30:02 PM
Ok after some research etc.. i see that if you use "venera 1" which is the name of the first probe to venus gives the same message as when you type just "venus". Leading me to think its got more to do with planets and space exploration then anything now.

edit, looks like some others on different sites found this aswell. hrm....
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: spike_africa on July 19, 2007, 02:32:08 PM
DOOM GOT THE ANSWER@!!!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Dope_Danny on July 19, 2007, 02:32:48 PM
oh boy here we go again . . .

people are gonna go way too hard at this for about the next week until someone stupid figures out that the password is something completely retarded, like "ice cream sandwich" or some dumb shit that has nothin to do with anything
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: spike_africa on July 19, 2007, 02:34:08 PM
Ok Find the date the first probe was sent to venus thats the code I fucking rule!!!!!

This way others can still have fun finding it. But thats what you need go look hurry there is a new song waiting for you!!!!!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ForAllTid on July 19, 2007, 02:34:33 PM
DOOM GOT THE ANSWER@!!!!

?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 02:36:21 PM
What is it then?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Dope_Danny on July 19, 2007, 02:37:00 PM
"February 12, 1961"

the song you get is "love in cold blood"
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: spike_africa on July 19, 2007, 02:37:31 PM
I just told you how, find the date the first probe was sent to venus the date is the code. WHen you do it you get to hear some of "love in cold blood".

Awsome i cant belive i figured that out.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ForAllTid on July 19, 2007, 02:41:15 PM
that's it... a 10 second clip...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: spike_africa on July 19, 2007, 02:42:11 PM
hey its something and you get to hear what the sound is like.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 02:43:23 PM
So much expectations for 10s.  :o
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 19, 2007, 02:44:19 PM
i think it was worth the hassle, those 10 seconds sound awsome imo
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: spike_africa on July 19, 2007, 02:45:44 PM
You think there is more hidden, maybe more parts of songs?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: ForAllTid on July 19, 2007, 02:47:12 PM
a little off topic but didn't they film a video for PKF? do you think if there's another code to unlock they'll have a 6.8 second clip of that?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Florianhermanni on July 19, 2007, 02:52:20 PM
Guys...calm down it's more than 30sec snippet
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: roger valo on July 19, 2007, 03:07:51 PM
well at least is something, i liked the song.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 19, 2007, 03:08:30 PM
it sounds fucking awesome reminds me of judas priest.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lovemetal626 on July 19, 2007, 03:10:22 PM
wow, sounds cool ;D


it reminds me of Razor Blade Romance  days.... but with a new twist, awesome!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 19, 2007, 03:12:40 PM
WOW!!!! Is all I have to say, Ville and the guys are really experimenting with a new sound. It sounds fucking amazing!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 03:13:14 PM
a little off topic but didn't they film a video for PKF? do you think if there's another code to unlock they'll have a 6.8 second clip of that?

Ahahah.  ;D

Funny chit.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lovemetal626 on July 19, 2007, 03:30:10 PM
does anyone else think this Album has the potential to change the hearts of some  HIM haters out there?

i think so, the new sound is still HIM, but at the same time its something else.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 19, 2007, 03:37:57 PM
ii dont really care if it stops him haters as much i hope it appeals to the older fans like myself who hated the over produced dark light
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 19, 2007, 03:47:47 PM
i do like the clip sounds awesome
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: valo66.6 on July 19, 2007, 03:56:23 PM
so what exactly do u type in for the code?????
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 19, 2007, 04:03:56 PM
February 12, 1961
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 19, 2007, 04:05:23 PM
February 12, 1961

what did you think of the song (love in cold blood) ?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: buddings on July 19, 2007, 04:36:27 PM
sounds amazing!!  :) :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on July 19, 2007, 04:40:37 PM
I'm just one day away :P

The small part of Bleedwell sounds great
Tried to change the name of the name to get other soungs but it didn't work http://heartagram.com/cookiepass.php?file=loveincoldblood_30


What is btw the "120 seconds" things? Its a tvshow in the US or something?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 04:49:01 PM
It's just a way to promote Venus Doom, i think.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: MiLToS_666 on July 19, 2007, 04:54:17 PM
To make you even more excited about the album's sound... "Love In Cold Blood" is for me the most "Rock" song of them all...  ;D
Think about it!!!  ;)

EDIT: No, I'm not laughing my ass off for anyone's work to get this "revealed"... But at least they could post the whole song...  :-\
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: HIM fanatic girl on July 19, 2007, 05:04:17 PM
Hey can anyone write the lyrics that Ville sings in this sample of love in cold blood?
I can't understand some words.
Thanks
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 19, 2007, 05:06:21 PM
<body >
 <div align="center" style="position:absolute; top:550px; width:100%; z-index: 12">
  <div align="center"><img src="cookiepass.php?file=enter_heartagram" border="0" /> (http://www.heartagram.com/index2.html)
  </div>

</div>
  <div align="center" style="position:absolute; top:300px; width:100%; z-index: 10">
    <div align="center">
      <embed src="cookiepass.php?file=loveincoldblood_30" autostart="true"></embed>
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Myspace it.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 19, 2007, 05:07:22 PM
Here is the sample of "Love In Cold Blood" in mp3

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ce0vbi
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 19, 2007, 05:18:59 PM
Looks like the forum is getting revived.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 19, 2007, 05:34:59 PM
<body >
 <div align="center" style="position:absolute; top:550px; width:100%; z-index: 12">
  <div align="center"><img src="cookiepass.php?file=enter_heartagram" border="0" /> ([url]http://www.heartagram.com/index2.html[/url])
  </div>

</div>
  <div align="center" style="position:absolute; top:300px; width:100%; z-index: 10">
    <div align="center">
      <embed src="cookiepass.php?file=loveincoldblood_30" autostart="true"></embed>
    </div>
  </div>

 

   
</body>

Myspace it.

myspace what?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 05:35:41 PM
Hey can anyone write the lyrics that Ville sings in this sample of love in cold blood?
I can't understand some words.
Thanks

Just guessing:

Love in cold blood ( meet me in sweet suffering )
Love in cold blood
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 19, 2007, 05:36:26 PM
Holy crap. Just. Holy. Crap. I NEED MORE THAN 30 seconds!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 05:44:02 PM
I'd just wait for the leak. The songs are sounding to similar to me. I hope to be wrong.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 19, 2007, 05:45:33 PM
that clip does have really nice sound i like the guitar tone alot and valos style of singing in that particular part
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 19, 2007, 05:47:15 PM
It kind of reminds me of the I Love You remix from Uneasy 2. Dunno why, but it does.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 05:47:45 PM
Yes, but the clip intro riff its sounding like the others on VD. It seems that is the end of the song though. I hope it is.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 19, 2007, 05:55:08 PM
I have. Now I'm sick of it (for the moment)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 06:00:16 PM
I'm listening to UL vol 2. to avoid that. After seeing the love metal archives this afternoon. It just helps to relax.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: HIM fanatic girl on July 19, 2007, 06:06:09 PM
Quote from: RaKoHaMMaS link=topic=2158.msg91756#msg91756
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Just guessing:

Love in cold blood ( meet me in sweet suffering )
Love in cold blood
.
Thank you! I read your lyrics.
I'd say he sings BETWEEN sweet suffering.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 19, 2007, 06:10:42 PM
Looks like the forum is getting revived.
Its because they want Freebies.
And I don't mean the kind as to when someone money and they can't pay you back so all that can offer you is a blo ....

I mean nevermind.

Well it has been two weeks I am expecting that damn thing, it should arrive by early garfield monday or ruby tuesday.

Than I can show it off like a backstage pass with Alice Cooper.

*Schwing!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 19, 2007, 06:20:51 PM

Thank you! I read your lyrics.
I'd say he sings BETWEEN sweet suffering.

Yeah, you're right. My bad.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 19, 2007, 08:10:07 PM
some german dude on the official forum said he was the first to figure out the secret code and he won the entire album backstage passes and stuff .... you smell that ..... smells like bullshit...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 19, 2007, 10:19:22 PM
You guys do know what the Date means right?
Google the Date for those of you who are not familiar with certain Odd Historical Moments.
:)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 19, 2007, 10:41:48 PM
the first time they launched a mission to venus satellite or probe what ever you wanna call it right?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on July 19, 2007, 11:13:11 PM
Love in cold blood (Oh... Breathe me your sweet suffering)
Breathe me your sweet suffering
Love in Cold blood

Who is that singing in the background? Also if you turn your volume down... you can hear ville say "Breathe me your sweet suffering" in a really low voice. I'm loving the spookiness behind the sound... excellent sound production.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: deadalready on July 19, 2007, 11:21:15 PM
Love in cold blood (Oh... Breathe me your sweet suffering)
Breathe me your sweet suffering
Love in Cold blood

Who is that singing in the background? Also if you turn your volume down... you can hear ville say "Breathe me your sweet suffering" in a really low voice. I'm loving the spookiness behind the sound... excellent sound production.
totaly agree with you
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: snuffupakiss on July 20, 2007, 02:50:59 AM
glad i had a good long nap, now i can listen to the snippet. ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 20, 2007, 04:12:25 AM
Our eyes are burning
from the view of our future
in the devilish mind of most
we are dead
When our doom comes, we will be saved
Cos baby only you and I
YOU AND I are born to bleedwell
In Death, it will be you and I
YOU AND I, we can bleedwell

Its our deadliest sins, confessed
That drains our souls
And leaves us begging for more
yeah
Only you can save me, from bleeding to death

When our doom comes, we will be saved
Cos baby only you and I
YOU AND I are born to bleedwell
In Death, it will be you and I
YOU AND I, we can bleedwell

*whispered in the backround by ville*
We slowly die, hand in hand
in this crimson universe
the blood from your lips
takes me away from it all

When our doom comes, we will be saved
Cos baby only you and I
YOU AND I are born to bleedwell
In Death, it will be you and I
YOU AND I, we can bleedwell
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: villekiss on July 20, 2007, 05:12:59 AM
omg omg
do you have the song?the whole one?
post it please if u have it
wow
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 20, 2007, 05:23:50 AM
Whoa look at this.

http://web.archive.org/web/20031220151021/http://www.heartagram.com/

Takes me back.

There are more...
http://web.archive.org/web/*/heartagram.com

goes back to old heartagram.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 20, 2007, 09:09:43 AM
Our eyes are burning
from the view of our future
...

You heard the promo?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on July 20, 2007, 10:44:29 AM
Just curious to know how you got a hold of the lyrics to Bleed Well Necropolis.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on July 20, 2007, 11:12:47 AM
I'm surprised that it ended up being science related rather than mythology or something..

anyway, LICB sounds good. A really nice sound.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 20, 2007, 02:00:50 PM
is there gonna be another door/key thing..and when?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on July 21, 2007, 01:10:28 AM
someone can share the promo? uu..

only 30 seconds XD pleaseee  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( hahahaha...

 :D

 :-\ it's so hard to believe our hearts can't wait for Venus Doom xD  :(



**edit**

yeaah! maybe in a week i will get Venus Doom ^^ i'm so excited!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on July 21, 2007, 06:46:06 AM
yeah maybe in september  ;D

i hope there will be a new door behind which will be the new video....  :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on July 21, 2007, 07:25:16 AM
We'll just have to wait and see
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: villekiss on July 21, 2007, 07:27:21 AM
we`re damn anxious anyways:))
i don`t know but maybe this album will be the best album of HIM ..i don`t know from what we have heard...damn  awesome
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 21, 2007, 09:16:59 AM
I seriously doubt it'll be better than RR but at this moment kiss of dawn is growing on me.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: villekiss on July 21, 2007, 01:17:38 PM
RR is my favorite album till now..but  i don`t knwo till now kiss of dawn ,passion`s killing floor,dead lover`s lane and the beginning of Love in cold blod..these sound awesome...great..i imagine the rest of album..can t wait
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on July 21, 2007, 05:07:42 PM
someone can share the promo? uu..

only 30 seconds XD pleaseee  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( hahahaha...

 :D

 :-\ it's so hard to believe our hearts can't wait for Venus Doom xD  :(



**edit**

yeaah! maybe in a week i will get Venus Doom ^^ i'm so excited!
Nothing can be leaked from the promos... it is watermarked. Even a 5 second clip is tracable. A watermark is a digital signature or in other words a signal hidden within the song. It is unhearable to the naked ear and it continuously played through the whole song.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 21, 2007, 06:49:26 PM
Let's just say I know some people.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on July 21, 2007, 08:21:46 PM
I firmly believe there is nothing to worry about when leaking a watermarked CD. I've downloaded tons of 'em, so the people leaking them must think the same way. When they say watermarked, though, it could mean a handful of different things. I've never heard of anyone being able to "trace" a file. I have heard, however, or certain songs being at a different volume or pitch - things like that to keep people from wanting to share them because they'd be practically unlistenable. If someone leaks it, though, they leak it. If they don't, they don't. I can wait, but I'd rather not have to. ;D


EDIT: While I'm on the subject, I'd like to know where the lyrics of Bleed Well came from, as others have already asked. It's not that big of a deal to say.

Each CD is individually marked with a special signal encoded into the music. Every CD is different and as I said before, it can't be heard. It has to be found using the same software that was used to put it on and using the same alogarithm that was used, that they bought the rights to, so then they can decode the signal and trace back to whom the CD was given to. This whole precess is very easy to do, and since there are only a few CD's actually out there, it's not hard to watermark them.

Also, they don't actually trace the file... it's impossible. What happens is that the information gets leaked... the company finds out and get which information is leaked and then traces it back to who leaked it. Only way around the whole watermark thing is to keep the information internal... meaning only give it to people who are not affiliated with press, government, or the company who produced it... but then you gotta trust those people who u gave it to to not give it to the people mentioned above.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 21, 2007, 09:32:55 PM
If a clip was recorded with say a cell phone or different form of low quality recording in an analog fashion, it would be very difficult to trace. Thats what happened with The Shins latest album. Someone leaked it in shitty quality, to make it harder to trace. Either way I don't think it's worth the risk. They could probably figure out what ip address the upload came from. Unless it was uploaded from a public library to an anonymous site... haha... ok I'll shut up now. It will leak, when it leaks. Probably a couple weeks from the release date.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on July 22, 2007, 02:11:37 PM
If I had it, I would share with people I trusted... and if I got in trouble I would find out who did it and i'll be coming after their asses.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 22, 2007, 03:59:58 PM
I would let them listen to it but not share it via net.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jack Sparrow on July 23, 2007, 08:48:48 AM

oh well,  leaked or no, we will surely be buying the cd in september,  so anyway...

 :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 23, 2007, 11:35:14 AM
Their bad. If Warner wasn't such a shit, we would have the album by now.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 24, 2007, 02:15:55 PM
ok now i'm really excited i preordered both limited editions the black book version looks really awesome and i'm glad they are doing remixes again i missed that .  :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 24, 2007, 02:59:46 PM
I'm excited for the acoustic version of "Love In Cold Blood".
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 24, 2007, 03:28:10 PM
www.heartagram.com/venusdoom


I was going to preorder it too, but with the shipping it will be much expensive than i can afford.

Maybe if someone sell it in europe i could buy one.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 24, 2007, 04:27:17 PM
My goddamn bank card better be working in time so I can get this "limited edition" Blackbook version.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 24, 2007, 04:28:45 PM
iwill hopefully get this aswell
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 24, 2007, 04:59:47 PM
Interesting to see that this "De Selby" character from The Third Policeman talked about Dark Light in his theory.

http://www.rocknroll.f9.co.uk/science/savant.html
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 24, 2007, 05:45:46 PM
Interesting to see that this "De Selby" character from The Third Policeman talked about Dark Light in his theory.

[url]http://www.rocknroll.f9.co.uk/science/savant.html[/url]

Actually that theory was broken down maybe thirty years ago.
It was believed at first that Colour was indeed related to Black and White but it was proven other wise.
This book speaks nearly in three parties, the reader, the viewer and the third party being the action or as some want to call it the mind character.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lovemetal626 on July 24, 2007, 06:11:40 PM
Does anyone know if the Special Limited Edition comes with

Everything in the Special Edition and Normal Edition?

they dont state whether or not, i would like to know before i order.

thanks

cuz then the special limited edition would be the best bet.

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on July 24, 2007, 08:38:09 PM
i oredered both and broke my bank i'm just to excited and didn't want to miss out on anything lol
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 24, 2007, 08:50:36 PM
*sigh*

I can't believe I'm still a HIM nerd and have to have the most special edition available.  I just purchased the black book thingy too.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 24, 2007, 10:55:48 PM
Im a HIM fan like everyone else but I learned from the Dark Light special Edition to not buy the Special Limited Edition because its kinda gay, I dont need exclusive photos or crap qrapped in envelopes haha. I just want the music
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 24, 2007, 11:07:56 PM
I'm with Jen on this one...eBay was my addiction because of HIM when I first got into them.  That's how I found my sealed Razorblade Romance digipak for $12!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: snuffupakiss on July 25, 2007, 01:31:07 AM
just ordered the leather- bound edition. its purdy...can't wait to get it.
oh and jay, whats the black book thingy you mentioned in your post?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 25, 2007, 01:59:46 AM
I meant the leather-bound one
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: snuffupakiss on July 25, 2007, 02:03:41 AM
oh, okay. i thought there was yet another new HIM goodie that i must have, lol.
so  has anyone ripped the $10 ville interview clip- cos i can't get it to work for me. :'(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 25, 2007, 11:10:25 AM
I'm in the same damn boat as Jay and Jen. As soon as that page went up I put in my order for the $49 version. I'll pick up the regular and special editions when they come out in stores, since they'll be a bit cheaper. The thing with me is, if it's HIM, and If it's out there, I just have to have it. It's like a burning sensation when I pee, but for CDs. Wait...I should probably have that checked out.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 25, 2007, 11:29:42 AM
I feel tempted but this time i won't give in.

The WBurglars won't receive any money for the limited edition.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: emock on July 25, 2007, 12:50:23 PM
I'm just gonna get the normal one although I like the cover of the middle priced one and the leathery one looks sooooo nice....

Snap out of it. I don't have the cash for the cool one  :'(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Bender Bending R. on July 25, 2007, 01:54:10 PM
The thing with me is, if it's HIM, and If it's out there, I just have to have it. It's like a burning sensation when I pee, but for CDs. Wait...I should probably have that checked out.
i understand you, but this time i have to wait
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Ziggy18 on July 25, 2007, 01:57:04 PM
the only reason i would get the black book version is for the 3 bonus songs.  but i don't know what they would be though.  the special edition comes with the two bonus songs.  one song less would be a lot cheaper, i really don't want all that extra stuff anyways.  

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 25, 2007, 02:52:37 PM
That, and it's not like you won't be able to find the bonus tracks anyway,
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 25, 2007, 04:08:53 PM
This album isn't being produced as I had hoped...

Sounds good though.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 26, 2007, 03:33:31 AM
According to a user on the official forum, the song Venus Doom is already being played on finnish radio.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: TheSacramentIsYou on July 26, 2007, 04:47:28 AM
"black book thingy" and "have to have" were the major factors that forced me to sneak to the order page and spend money I don't have.

how much did it end up costing you in uk pounds?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on July 26, 2007, 07:03:10 AM
Nice, great find =) This is officially my favorite song now... it's so catchy, I love it.

Here's the Lyrics...

Leave all behind now to watch her crawl
Through our dark gardens of insanity
She'll be the light to guide you back home

Just give her a kiss worth dieing for
And open your arms

Watch me fall for you
My Venus doom
Hide my heart
Where all dreams are entombed
My Venus doom

Grieve all your hearts out and she'll writhe enthralled
In tragic, ecstatic agony
And with flames we will die some more

Just show me a light worth living for
Light up the dark

Watch me fall for you
My Venus doom
Hide my heart
Where all dreams are entombed
My Venus doom
All dreams are of you
My Venus doom

Watch me fall for you
My Venus doom
Hide my heart
Where all dreams are entombed
Watch me fall for you
My Venus doom
Hide my heart
Where all dreams are entombed
My Venus doom
All dreams are of you
My Venus doom
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 26, 2007, 07:19:12 AM
cool lyrics thanks
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on July 26, 2007, 07:20:42 AM
OMG Venus DOom song is just....ohhhh its f..king awesome!! best song from venus doom till now....for me,.....
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 26, 2007, 07:22:45 AM
OMG Venus DOom song is just....ohhhh its f..king awesome!! best song from venus doom till now....for me,.....

see im not too sure at this point about it seems it been cut short aswell
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: snuffupakiss on July 26, 2007, 07:23:47 AM
waiting for it on radio rock. hope i didnt miss it.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on July 26, 2007, 07:24:00 AM
Radio edit perhaps.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Devilish330 on July 26, 2007, 07:24:46 AM
well so much for my first post...it disappeared  ???

Again, here is the link to download the song Venus Doom...I recorded it from a finnish webradio early this morning. Enjoy! ;)
http://www.yousendit.com/download/elNLTG13UzhEbUkwTVE9PQ
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on July 26, 2007, 07:27:23 AM
Lol yeah, I wondered were ti went lol... I was "I grabbed it just in time" =P

Anyways... That is clearly a radio edit... it's 2 mins too short. It's Supposed to be 5:08 long.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 07:28:53 AM
Of course it's radio edit.

A radio can not provide over 5 minutes of a track.

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Devilish330 on July 26, 2007, 07:31:40 AM
yeah, when I listened to it on the radio, it seemed like it ended abruptly... so there no doubts that the song was edited for the radio. The album version will sound way better it being 5+ minutes long :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 07:34:27 AM
It does. :)


But yes. Thanks for being very courteous. Not everyone would do that.
 
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: snuffupakiss on July 26, 2007, 07:37:53 AM
thanx for the link to venus doom.  i liked it & i can't wait to hear the complete version.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Devilish330 on July 26, 2007, 07:45:13 AM
It does. :)


But yes. Thanks for being very courteous. Not everyone would do that.
 

No problem ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jack Sparrow on July 26, 2007, 07:58:03 AM
yeah, when I listened to it on the radio, it seemed like it ended abruptly... so there no doubts that the song was edited for the radio. The album version will sound way better it being 5+ minutes long :)

Well dude,  I will give you your first +1 Karma for this.   Thank you very much!

 8)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: eairthrow on July 26, 2007, 08:01:01 AM
Thanks for the upload! ;D This album will be perfect!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Devilish330 on July 26, 2007, 08:14:02 AM
yeah, when I listened to it on the radio, it seemed like it ended abruptly... so there no doubts that the song was edited for the radio. The album version will sound way better it being 5+ minutes long :)

Well dude,  I will give you your first +1 Karma for this.   Thank you very much!


 8)
Thanks...btw, I'm a girl, not a dude :D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 08:15:02 AM
I am about to upload it to my myspace if anyone wants it for theirs.

www.myspace.com/loveseternalwar

give it a few.

add me while you are at it. ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 26, 2007, 08:21:01 AM
Wow... best song off Venus Doom yet!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 08:28:03 AM
www.myspace.com/loveseternalwar

Uploaded
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jack Sparrow on July 26, 2007, 08:38:36 AM
Thanks...btw, I'm a girl, not a dude :D


 :D   sorry!! thanks anyway!

 :D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on July 26, 2007, 08:43:07 AM
Wow... best song off Venus Doom yet!

yep exactly!  ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Amourder on July 26, 2007, 09:07:59 AM
Oh boy, this album will be excellent. I really dig all three tracks I've heard so far.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: FRO on July 26, 2007, 09:21:49 AM
yeah, when I listened to it on the radio, it seemed like it ended abruptly... so there no doubts that the song was edited for the radio. The album version will sound way better it being 5+ minutes long :)

Well dude,  I will give you your first +1 Karma for this.   Thank you very much!


 8)
Thanks...btw, I'm a girl, not a dude :D

Thank you for the Upload! +1 from me too!
I wish all new members would learn from you!
Hurry and get to 75 posts!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Devilish330 on July 26, 2007, 09:28:37 AM

Thank you for the Upload! +1 from me too!
I wish all new members would learn from you!
Hurry and get to 75 posts!

You're welcome.
And, I will get to 75 posts...just give me a few days or maybe a few hours ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on July 26, 2007, 09:53:55 AM
Thanks for the up, +1 for you.

Appears to be a great song.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: 0401695 on July 26, 2007, 11:51:29 AM
Thanks ! So great !
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 26, 2007, 01:31:56 PM
Fantastic stuff.

That has made me retract my statement about the production of the album.

I am SO excited right now  ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Creiz on July 26, 2007, 03:05:43 PM
Venus doom and Passions killing floor is so cool! but im a little dissapointed on the kiss of dawn... :-\
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 26, 2007, 03:06:36 PM
Wow... best song off Venus Doom yet!

There will be two more "good songs" in that same pattern.

:)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 03:50:19 PM
I found Kiss of Dawn very good. I can not get it out of my head. It's always on repeat.

KOD- 9/10 cute little smileys :)- Good lyrics, good riffs.

PKF- 7/10  8)- Sounds a little weird in the music area. Great lyrics.

VD- 6/10 :-\- I don't know what to say about this one, reminds me of the song Dark Light. Notice the self titled ones sound alike? Good lyrics. The editing disappoints me I guess.

Love In Cold Blood- This song, 40 seconds of listening even cought my attention, so I give it 9/10 :)

Dead Lovers Lane- 8/10. Amazing lyrics. Good riffs. Nice Solo's. Gas put a lot of effort into this one.

There you have it. My daily ratings.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on July 26, 2007, 03:51:44 PM
I found Kiss of Dawn very good. I can not get it out of my head. It's always on repeat.

KOD- 9/10 cute little smileys :)- Good lyrics, good riffs.

PKF- 7/10  8)- Sounds a little weird in the music area. Great lyrics.

VD- 6/10 :-\- I don't know what to say about this one, reminds me of the song Dark Light. Notice the self titled ones sound alike? Good lyrics. The editing disappoints me I guess.

Love In Cold Blood- This song, 40 seconds of listening even cought my attention, so I give it 9/10 :)

Dead Lovers Lane- 8/10. Amazing lyrics. Good riffs. Nice Solo's. Gas put a lot of effort into this one.

There you have it. My daily ratings.
The short clip of Bleed Well from the 120 seconds video had a pretty cool guitar riff in it.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 03:53:44 PM
Yeah it did.

So uh... 7/10? lol.

I am very much so a lyrical person. Grew up with poetry. But you gotta have all the music to make it sound beautiful.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on July 26, 2007, 03:59:03 PM
I give it a 10/10. It's heavy and catchy as hell. I really like the structure of the song. Great choice for an opening track. Can't wait to hear it in CD quality!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 26, 2007, 04:11:55 PM
After dark light i was trying not to get myself very excited for this new album. But after hearingall these kick ass songs, i am REALLY excited, i Like Venus Doom the best then kiss of dawn then PKF. It is harder and the lyrics are better then Dark Light... VERY EXCITED!!!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 26, 2007, 04:14:49 PM
I give it a 10/10. It's heavy and catchy as hell. I really like the structure of the song. Great choice for an opening track. Can't wait to hear it in CD quality!

I heard the full album this morning.
I can tell you that it is a 6 out of a 10.

That is my honest opinion.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on July 26, 2007, 04:28:32 PM
Tauriainen, your musical tastes seem to be a lot broader than most people on these boards, and I believe that you are probably one of the more "brutal" critics on here. To those that are die-hard HIM fans, anything they put out will be pure gold. But I think a 6/10 is is pretty good coming from you  :P

What I've heard so far (most of the album haha) sounds a lot better than Dark Light in my opinion. Passion's Killing Floor was a little weak for me, though.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 04:34:33 PM
Yeah, Homer is a picky PRICK!

Just kiddiing baby.

But he does have a good taste in music of all genres even.

Love you homer. :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 26, 2007, 04:48:27 PM
But I think a 6/10 is is pretty good coming from you  :P

In a couple of days more material will be leaked.
Expect the tracks mentioned above be posted too, you will hear what I mean.

Plus that tally is rather harsh, considering that the album lacks a lot of work. Mastering and Mixing plus not to mention some volumes were not done well.

I mean yeah Gas experimented with new drum kits and he got to do some of his favorite Sepultura Drum fill ins in couple of tracks. Linde with his hand damaged sort of left the band a bit short, but still played a good part in the last stage of the work. Mige does the same pattern. The keyboards are still too present for an album that tries to theories the idea of a new sound. Sadly enough the vocals are dropped to a lower range only to become a male falsetto and devour much radio friendly material on MTV and the Radio.

Yeah, Homer is a picky PRICK!

You can say it, I am an asshole. But I try to be nice about it.

In the Interview mentioned you can tell Ville is trying too hard to prove that he wants to be noted as a heavier musician, too bad his music doesn't tally to that of his "favorite albums" to compare his material. Some of which does not touch the album he created for months.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 05:00:23 PM
Nah buddy, you are not an asshole.

You go by what you want, and don't care what others think about that, one of the many things I respect you for. :)

Does anyone notice some Bloody Sabbath sounds in the VD track?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 26, 2007, 05:07:43 PM
Nah buddy, you are not an asshole.

You go by what you want, and don't care what others think about that, one of the many things I respect you for. :)

Does anyone notice some Bloody Sabbath sounds in the VD track?

I noticed it, very very sweet sounding stuff.  The influences are much stronger in this record than they were in Love Metal.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 26, 2007, 05:10:14 PM
Yeah, Homer is a picky PRICK!

You can say it, I am an asshole. But I try to be nice about it.

In the Interview mentioned you can tell Ville is trying too hard to prove that he wants to be noted as a heavier musician, too bad his music doesn't tally to that of his "favorite albums" to compare his material. Some of which does not touch the album he created for months.

If Ville wanted to be a heavier musician...he would be.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 26, 2007, 05:33:20 PM
I think he's a bit tired of being the "sorta gay guy" androgenous front man.  I think he wants to be known as a great frontman, and he was at one point in time, hopefully he'll regain some of that spark again. 

I think the new material will help, given that the band appears to be very happy with it. 

And really, would it kill them to change the setlist?  I think the majority of us can predict any given HIM show.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 05:40:57 PM
Everyone goes through a change.

I mean, I love his older style in all areas "back in the day"

But I still support him and the band. They've been there for me. :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 26, 2007, 05:47:13 PM
I can't decide if I liked the DS&BH Ville, or the Love Metal Ville better.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 26, 2007, 05:53:53 PM
Yeah, Homer is a picky PRICK!

You can say it, I am an asshole. But I try to be nice about it.

In the Interview mentioned you can tell Ville is trying too hard to prove that he wants to be noted as a heavier musician, too bad his music doesn't tally to that of his "favorite albums" to compare his material. Some of which does not touch the album he created for months.

If Ville wanted to be a heavier musician...he would be.
Yeah, I am sure.
Hence why he has released nearly five albums that have stayed in the Rock Pop Genre even if given a Sub Genre name created by them.

Simple fact is when he signed to this world wide release contract, he signed his creative rights to create actual rock and create rock for the media not for himself.

Just because one can browse for Labels does not mean they can take any that is given to them with the highest amount of money.

But like you kindly noted, "IF".

If....

But than again, he didn't.
;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 06:02:42 PM
Newcomers.

Quit leaching.

Jen, you my dear, NOT A LEACHER. :)

N00bs, apply within.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: snuffupakiss on July 26, 2007, 06:47:44 PM
i like this title track. its catchy.  ;D wonder if they'll make a  video for it since its a single for finland?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 06:48:46 PM
I can imagine they would.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: snuffupakiss on July 26, 2007, 06:52:36 PM
would it be a darker video because its a finnish release? i hope so...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 26, 2007, 06:54:35 PM
I think he's a bit tired of being the "sorta gay guy" androgenous front man.  I think he wants to be known as a great frontman, and he was at one point in time, hopefully he'll regain some of that spark again. 

I think the new material will help, given that the band appears to be very happy with it. 

And really, would it kill them to change the setlist?  I think the majority of us can predict any given HIM show.

Hmm...well we are going to get a change with the new album.

Only thing is what do you drop?  I get a funny feeling Ville could decide to drop classic songs we all love in favour of more recent songs.

One of my main problems with HIM live is that they don't variate with setlists, seeing Metallica this year made me feel even more strongly about this.  When I saw Metallica they were playing stuff they haven't toured in 20 years or such like, would it really be that hard for HIM to give Our Diabolikal Rapture, Resurrection or For You an appearance?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: xAndyDollx on July 26, 2007, 06:55:37 PM
can someone upload "venus doom" again. the download seemed to expire and i was at work when it was able to work.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 26, 2007, 06:55:57 PM
It honestly depends on the producer.

Hiili Hiilesmaa does an amazing job.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 26, 2007, 07:32:39 PM
I think they don't play a lot of the old GLS stuff is because of the tuning they used back then. 

They don't have to drop anything.  They can play for two hours.  They usually play for about an hour.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on July 26, 2007, 07:39:03 PM
Bleedwell Lyrics
...
YOU AND I, we can bleedwell
Its our deadliest sins, confessed
That drains our souls
...


PKF lyrics
Quote
To the deadliest sins we confess
And tears of joy fill our eyes


Like Nightside of Eden, nice words so we use it in two songs on the same album?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 26, 2007, 07:41:19 PM
I'm very much loving "Venus Doom". I love PKF, and Kiss Of Dawn, but Venus Doom, imo blows both of them away. It's definatly a more aggressive HIM, but still HIM nonetheless. If this is an indication of the direction of future albums, sign me up. I would like to hear some sort of alternate version of VD though. Perhaps a different vocal mix, or even a plain jane acoustic version.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 26, 2007, 07:43:51 PM

Like Nightside of Eden, nice words so we use it in two songs on the same album?

Ville has done this for a long while. At least as far back as Love Metal. I always felt it was some sort of way to connect his songs.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on July 26, 2007, 07:44:23 PM
There's a secret to those "Bleed Well" lyrics, hahaha.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 26, 2007, 07:49:27 PM
im liking lyrics and songs so far
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Harker on July 26, 2007, 07:50:55 PM
He does connect some songs with each other, but which lyrics on LM?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: FRO on July 26, 2007, 07:54:24 PM
There's a secret to those "Bleed Well" lyrics, hahaha.

Jerry, when are you going to share that promo with everyone? I mean, you shared it with me and Jay the other night...... ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 26, 2007, 07:54:49 PM
I'm trying to find them, but with no luck. I could swear two songs on LM share the same line, or at least the name of another song mentioned in another. Maybe I'm just going batshit insane.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 26, 2007, 08:23:29 PM
i think they have before started with babl and end with soul cant remember when tho
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on July 26, 2007, 08:40:35 PM
i think they have before started with babl and end with soul cant remember when tho
They traded off, sometimes they opened with S.O.F. and closed with B.A.B.L. during the course of the American Tour.
But that was the time when I cared for holding their Bootlegs.
They also did it for the Tavastia stint.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 26, 2007, 08:44:16 PM
they did it at astoria 2003  :D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Danny on July 26, 2007, 08:55:45 PM
I agree with Tauriainen on the fact that it really seems Ville is trying too hard to prove that is album is gonna be "super heavy and doomy" when after what im hearing it got a bit to "dark light-isch" production i think the songs would be a lot cooler if they produced it similar to the GLSV666 sound, a lot rougher and raw sound.

But i think Venus Doom is one of the best i`ve heard from VD so far. Very catchy. But still i think Dead Lovers Lane is the best one i heard so far ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Devilish330 on July 26, 2007, 09:21:13 PM
so far I listened to 3 full songs:
PKF
Kiss of Dawn
Venus Doom


well...2 of them are radio edits BUT I like still like what I'm hearing
I give:
Venus Doom 9.5/10
Kiss of Dawn 9/10
PKF 8/10

I can't wait to listen to the other songs in full ;D I hope they get leaked soon...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 26, 2007, 10:33:12 PM
Those are the beswt ratings i have come across yet..... QUESTION---If you order the limited edition stuff , will you get it sooner because i know when i did that for DL I got it a few days before the release of the atual album in stores???
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 26, 2007, 10:34:12 PM
Probably. We won't find out till then, eh?
I'm sure they plan to get them into our hands right about the street date.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on July 26, 2007, 11:24:14 PM
So far the song I like best is "Passion's Killing Floor."

I wasn't amazingly impressed with "Kiss Of Dawn." The way it slows down for the last chorus run-through seemed very poorly done.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Danny on July 26, 2007, 11:32:24 PM
So far the song I like best is "Passion's Killing Floor."

I wasn't amazingly impressed with "Kiss Of Dawn." The way it slows down for the last chorus run-through seemed very poorly done.
huh,are you talking about the video that was on youtube that had that error so the video got fucked up before the last chourse a.k.a slowing down. Because the song is not actually supposed to be like that
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on July 27, 2007, 12:40:23 AM
There's a secret to those "Bleed Well" lyrics, hahaha.

Jerry, when are you going to share that promo with everyone? I mean, you shared it with me and Jay the other night...... ;)

hey cabron dont forget about me

and the secret to the bleed well lyrics makes me laugh til this very moment..

oh how good it feels to be a mod


MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 27, 2007, 01:10:12 AM
There's a secret to those "Bleed Well" lyrics, hahaha.

Jerry, when are you going to share that promo with everyone? I mean, you shared it with me and Jay the other night...... ;)

hey cabron dont forget about me

and the secret to the bleed well lyrics makes me laugh til this very moment..

oh how good it feels to be a mod


MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 ;D :D ;D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on July 27, 2007, 01:37:12 AM
So far the song I like best is "Passion's Killing Floor."

I wasn't amazingly impressed with "Kiss Of Dawn." The way it slows down for the last chorus run-through seemed very poorly done.
huh,are you talking about the video that was on youtube that had that error so the video got fucked up before the last chourse a.k.a slowing down. Because the song is not actually supposed to be like that

Quite possibly, however, the slow-down is actually a nice addition to the song.

If anyone can direct me to the proper version of Kiss Of Dawn, I would be most appreciative.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Vpr616 on July 27, 2007, 04:35:19 AM
Here it is - Kiss of Dawn without slowdown, recorded from Radio Rock.

http://rapidshare.com/files/45318191/04_-_The_Kiss_of_Dawn.mp3 (http://rapidshare.com/files/45318191/04_-_The_Kiss_of_Dawn.mp3)

BTW. Hi!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Email on July 27, 2007, 05:49:36 AM
Here it is - Kiss of Dawn without slowdown, recorded from Radio Rock.

[url]http://rapidshare.com/files/45318191/04_-_The_Kiss_of_Dawn.mp3[/url] ([url]http://rapidshare.com/files/45318191/04_-_The_Kiss_of_Dawn.mp3[/url])

BTW. Hi!


thanks  for the song ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: eairthrow on July 27, 2007, 06:45:09 AM
Thanks! Nice quality!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: HIM fanatic girl on July 27, 2007, 07:45:51 AM
Hey please folks.
can anyone upload the track venus doom again?
please upload it to rapidshare because the link you posted exceed the limit.
Help me please!
I need to download this track.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Vpr616 on July 27, 2007, 07:47:33 AM
http://rapidshare.com/files/45322617/01_-_Venus_Doom.mp3 (http://rapidshare.com/files/45322617/01_-_Venus_Doom.mp3)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Devilish330 on July 27, 2007, 07:55:09 AM
^^
I was going to post it again, but you beat me to it :D
Anyway, just in case yours exceeds the download limit here is another to link to download it:
http://www.yousendit.com/download/elNMV0o2U1B3TGcwTVE9PQ
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 27, 2007, 09:56:26 AM
When do you think more songs will be leaked??? Alot of ppl have heard the full album and im just wondering when it is gonna be leaked onto the internet?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: HIM fanatic girl on July 27, 2007, 10:14:25 AM
Thank you both of you guys for uploading it again.
It's a great track! :D
Title: What are your thoughts so far on Venus Doom ?
Post by: TheSacramentIsYou on July 27, 2007, 10:43:01 AM
What do you think of Venus Doom so far?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Vampyre_Heart on July 27, 2007, 10:46:00 AM
I'm not sure if this is old or new what I'm posting, but I haven't seen the tracklist thrown about in the last two pages or anything, so sorry if someone has already posted this!

-----

Kerrang! have obtained the full tracklisting for HIM's upcoming new album 'Venus Doom'. The full tracklisting for 'Venus Doom', which is released in the UK on September 17 through Warner Bros, is as follows:

01. Venus Doom
02. Love In Cold Blood
03. Passion's Killing Floor
04. The Kiss Of Dawn
05. Sleepwalking Past Hope
06. Dead Lover's Lane
07. Song Or Suicide
08. Bleed Well
09. Cyanide Sun

 
According to frontman Ville Valo, it will be their heaviest album yet. Venus Doom will still be comprised of Valo's allegorical lyrics, comparable to HIM's older albums. He has also noted that the music on Venus Doom will be comparable to Metallica and My Bloody Valentine. The longest song on the album is 10 minutes long, while the shortest song is 4 and a half minutes. The album was produced by Tim Palmer (Ozzy Osbourne, Dredg) and Hiili Hiilesmaa (The 69 Eyes, Apocalyptica).

The album's cover artwork [picture] was painted by artist David Harouni. Ville Valo purchased one of Harouni's paintings at New Orleans' Harouni Gallery and later asked Harouni if it could be used as the cover for "Venus Doom." "Venus Doom" will be a 2-Disc release with one CD of music and a DVD of bandwork.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 27, 2007, 10:49:08 AM
lol... that was posted about a month or so ago?

But thank you.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: TheSacramentIsYou on July 27, 2007, 12:16:20 PM
".."Venus Doom" will be a 2-Disc release with one CD of music and a DVD of bandwork."

So every release of Venus Doom will have a bonus DVD ?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on July 27, 2007, 12:26:09 PM
All except the cheap little 9 dollar ones you will find in discount stores.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: HIM fanatic girl on July 27, 2007, 01:08:08 PM
Nice, great find =) This is officially my favorite song now... it's so catchy, I love it.

Here's the Lyrics...

Leave all behind now to watch her crawl
Through our dark gardens of insanity
She'll be the light to guide you back home

Just give her a kiss worth dieing for
And open your arms

Watch me fall for you
My Venus doom
Hide my heart
Where all dreams are entombed
My Venus doom

Grieve all your hearts out and she'll writhe enthralled
In tragic, ecstatic agony
And with flames we will die some more

Just show me a light worth living for
Light up the dark

Watch me fall for you
My Venus doom
Hide my heart
Where all dreams are entombed
My Venus doom
All dreams are of you
My Venus doom

Watch me fall for you
My Venus doom
Hide my heart
Where all dreams are entombed
Watch me fall for you
My Venus doom
Hide my heart
Where all dreams are entombed
My Venus doom
All dreams are of you
My Venus doom
Thank you very much.
They are good lyrics.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Ziggy18 on July 27, 2007, 02:35:09 PM
I just ordered the black book and special edition Venus Doom. 
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Amourder on July 27, 2007, 02:49:20 PM
the only reason u probably feel that they are "americanized" is because others are saying they are "americanized"

but they still are finnish, they still make their music to their liking

if you compare HIM to american bands there is no comparison

HIM is totally original and seperate from a lot of bands out there to date

Word.

VD- 6/10 :-\- I don't know what to say about this one, reminds me of the song Dark Light.

Dude.  :-\

I hope these are only your inital impressions. Venus Doom (the track) is amazing, while Dark Light (the track) sucks d*nkey b*lls... Seriously. (S*rry ab*ut my language, and the excessive use of *sterisks.)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on July 28, 2007, 04:46:14 AM
someone knows what songs includes the special limited edition of VD??

the other special edition includes LICB & DLL remixs... but the book version includes new songs?

 :'( i can't wait!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 28, 2007, 02:25:54 PM
i really like them all at this time
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 28, 2007, 02:38:04 PM
Kiss Of Dawn - 3/5: I don't like the tempo change towards the very end (is still present, even on the "unwarped" version).


I don't think there is a tempo change.  It's more likely our minds playing with us because we were so religiously listening to the "warped" version when it came to the net.  ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: 666_HIMPRIDE_666 on July 28, 2007, 02:41:46 PM
Kiss Of Dawn - 3/5: I don't like the tempo change towards the very end (is still present, even on the "unwarped" version).


I don't think there is a tempo change.  It's more likely our minds playing with us because we were so religiously listening to the "warped" version when it came to the net.  ;D
Indeed :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Devilish330 on July 28, 2007, 04:25:32 PM
I just ordered the black book and special edition Venus Doom. 

I ordered them days ago...and I  may have ordered more than one of each version ::)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 28, 2007, 06:59:42 PM
i really like them all at this time

Yeah I am the same with this.  I have been hoping this album would be better than the last, I just felt the last album was a bit samey and bland.  By comparing the three songs I heard from DL pre release and these ones from VD I got this...

Vampire Heart
Killing Loneliness
Wings Of A Butterfly

Venus Doom
Kiss Of Dawn
Passion's Killing Floor

I pretty much prefer all three of the new songs over the ones from Dark Light.  I would say in comparison the only way in which old provails over new is that Vampire Heart is better than Kiss Of Dawn.  In every other situation the new songs are sounding better, so I am really hopeful now.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Crimmins on July 29, 2007, 03:53:09 AM
that's a great way to put it into perspective, i totally agree, i think the 3 from VD are way better than all those
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on July 29, 2007, 06:13:26 AM
that's a great way to put it into perspective, i totally agree, i think the 3 from VD are way better than all those

same here  :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on July 29, 2007, 02:33:33 PM
agree totally....
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: HIM-Circa2000 on July 29, 2007, 05:06:43 PM
Mt thoughts.

PKF - 5/5 Great song, Great Lyrics.

Kiss of dawn 5/5.. I dunno.. I just love this song.

Venus Doom/ 1.5/5.. This song sucks. no shining moments for me.

Love in cold blood 1/5... bad also... too pop ish...

Might grow on me. I dunno
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on July 29, 2007, 05:44:37 PM
Since everyone else is doing it, might as well jump off the bridge too!

1. Passion's Killing Floor - 4/5 I really like the song, it's catchy as hell. I just don't like the opening. Something about it, perhaps that it seems a bit too slow compared to the rest of the song. Once it gets to the verse though it kicks into high gear and doesn't let up. I LOVE the slow breakdown after the second chorus. I'd hoped that the album version would expand that a bit but it seems that this is the album version, and not an edit. Oh well, maybe the remix will remedy that...

2. Kiss Of Dawn - 4/5 As with PKF, I love this song, but there's just something about it that bothers me. It feels as if the song is being rushed through. It could just be that  this is the radio edit, and the album version will sound better to me. The chorus is very beautiful, and the song in general exhibits more mature lyrics than anything on Dark Light. With DL it seemed like Ville was trying too hard to sound different than previous albums and it backfired. Here he is genuine, and it shows. Linde's guitar solo kicks all sorts of ass, although it seems artifically shortend. An extra 5 seconds would have gone a long way. As long as the song is, it seems short. Thankfully the album version is nearly 6 minutes long. Can't wait to hear that!

3. Venus Doom - 5/5 When I first heard VD, I was driving to work at 7am. I hated it. I didn't like how it sounded like St. Anger at the start and how different Ville's vocals sounded. But during the day the melody of the chorus kept popping into my head. By the time I was able to leave work the first thing I did was listen to the song again. I fell in love with it. The lyrics really struck a chord with me, and I found that I could not get the chrous out of my head. The band seems to make more of an effort to expand their sound on this song. It's harder and more aggressive than the others we've heard so far and the vocals are mixed differently than we've ever heard before. This is the song, to me, that represents HIM's past, present and (hopefully) future. A great departure from the previous title track song, Dark Light. DL is, to this day, the only HIM song that I cannot listen to.

4. Dead Lover's Lane - 4/5 DLL is a song that I can't seem to come to a complete decision on. I'm basing this "review" off the GIAN and Millionrock live versions on youtube, so it's really hard to rate lyrics. The feel that I get from the song is that it's a mismash of PKF, The Sacrament and Soul on Fire. I really like the piano part towards the end, and the overall melody which is really fucking catchy. I desperatly want to love the album version of this song.

These, along with the snippets of Love in Cold Blood and Bleed Well that we've heard are really hyping me up for the album. I've not heard one song I don't like at all. With Dark Light I had reservations about multiple songs. I'm very interested to hear more of LICB, which to me sounds like the most Razorblade sounding song, and Bleed Well too even though I hate the name. And of course there is Sleepwalking Past Hope. The idea of a 10 minute HIM song (that isn't a long, drawn out remix) is exciting...and I LOVE the name.

EDIT: Holy crap that's a long message! Didn't think I went that long. Sorry guys!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on July 29, 2007, 06:47:30 PM
i really like them all at this time


Vampire Heart
Killing Loneliness
Wings Of A Butterfly

Venus Doom
Kiss Of Dawn
Passion's Killing Floor

I still consider the first versions of Vampire Heart and Killing Loneliness from Rock AM Ring 2005 the best versions of those songs. The studio Vampire Heart wasn't nearly as good, and every live version of Killing Loneliness hasn't had that kind of grit to it.

As for the new songs:

Venus Doom (3/5):
The beginning of it sounds like a Cathedral song, then out of no where it goes right into a soft piano-based verse. The Black Sabbath-esque bridge is also very cool.

Passion's Killing Floor (4/5):
I'm really into this song for whatever reason. It is somewhat reminiscent of Dark Light, but at the same time it feels newer, and much darker. The lyrics are also very close to my heart at the moment.

Kiss Of Dawn (2/5):
I just can't seem to get into this. It's not a bad song, but at the same time there just aren't any spectacular moments that blow me away. Not a bad filler track I suppose, but a poor choice for a single.

I'm not going to review Dead Lover's Lane or Love In Cold Blood seeing as I haven't heard the full songs. DLL has a cool solo, and LICB is definitely catchy, but both are a little too much like Dark Light for my taste.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 29, 2007, 07:30:24 PM

I still consider the first versions of Vampire Heart and Killing Loneliness from Rock AM Ring 2005 the best versions of those songs. The studio Vampire Heart wasn't nearly as good, and every live version of Killing Loneliness hasn't had that kind of grit to it.


Totally agree, I was so let down when the mixing of the album turned out to be more bland, toned down.

Hearing those tracks live originally I was like "Wow, this album is gonna be awesome".  When you hear those songs live even now they sound much more raw than the record.

I think the Venus Doom mixing has a more edgier sound to it.  Obvious it's not like the GLSV666 or even Razorblade days but it is definately more rough.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on July 30, 2007, 12:33:42 AM
Well to be fair "Razorblade Romance" really wasn't that much darker or girtty, it just had a dark 80's undertone to it. Nothing HIM had done before, or since has sounded quite like that album.

I always found there were kind of three different HIM sounds. I thought that Greatest Love Songs and Love Metal were much of the same vibe, although GLS666 was grittier and less structured. Razorblade Romance obviously has a sound all its own, and one can really see that by listening to the live bootlegs of that era.

Then Deep Shadows & Brilliant Highlights, And Love Said No (although Solitary Man was very much a Love Metal song), and Dark Light all had the same poppy quality. Venus Doom has so far fit the bill of this sound, although parts of each song have hinted more toward the Love Metal sound.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on July 30, 2007, 04:19:52 AM

I still consider the first versions of Vampire Heart and Killing Loneliness from Rock AM Ring 2005 the best versions of those songs. The studio Vampire Heart wasn't nearly as good, and every live version of Killing Loneliness hasn't had that kind of grit to it.


Yep I've always saying that...its so true...If i want to hear this song i just play Rock Am Ring 2005.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jack Sparrow on July 30, 2007, 08:27:57 AM

Well to be honest I think they "kinda" almost achieved the sound they wanted.   Of course you can tell that the songs are more guitar driven and the keyboarding fell flat.  Linde needs a little extra effort in making good guitar solos.   Great playing riffs though.     I like the way Gas hits the drums on VD choruses,  it gives that hard touch.

to this moment,  Kiss of Dawn is my favorite one.   The intro main riff is very rocking then the low voice and the mellow chorus.   A friend of mine that never heard HIM said after hearing the song:  they sound so heavy and that guy sings so low but the chorus is very beautiful and catchy!      hehehe they touched the string!

PKF is... mmmm I don't know.   I dont like the main riff, kinda reminds me of Wings of a butterfly, the verses are great,   the chorus is ok but it could be worked better with other lyrics.

Venus Doom is just awesome!   you hear that rocking intro and you never imagine how the melody is going to change in the verse and chorus.
Ville said:   heavy rocking riffs with mellow voice melodies.   Granted!

Of course they aren't even close to GLS 666 or RR.

But judging on this songs they make me want to buy the $50 limited edition of VD...    in fact,  I'm going there right now    :D

Cheers friends!

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on July 30, 2007, 09:21:47 AM
Well to be fair "Razorblade Romance" really wasn't that much darker or girtty, it just had a dark 80's undertone to it. Nothing HIM had done before, or since has sounded quite like that album.

I always found there were kind of three different HIM sounds. I thought that Greatest Love Songs and Love Metal were much of the same vibe, although GLS666 was grittier and less structured. Razorblade Romance obviously has a sound all its own, and one can really see that by listening to the live bootlegs of that era.

Then Deep Shadows & Brilliant Highlights, And Love Said No (although Solitary Man was very much a Love Metal song), and Dark Light all had the same poppy quality. Venus Doom has so far fit the bill of this sound, although parts of each song have hinted more toward the Love Metal sound.

Yeah agreed. I think thats where I was getting at, in my personal opinion I think every HIM album has its own qualities making it individual most specifically Razorblade.

HIM's sound was grittier in the past, due to the bands personal taste and such like but also due to the fact they didn't have the production values they did now.  When you have more paramaters to work with, the end product will always come out sounding different.

Part of me hears some Love Metal in the new album, part of me hears a faint GLSV666 in there, and I hear some Dark Light in there.  So basically I am looking at it as Dark Light with much more balls  :D

I don't know where VD fits in with all the current albums, maybe it doesn't.  Maybe this is yet another turning point for the HIM sound. Everytime a new song gets leaked I change my mind on all of this, I think the unreleased songs (such as Sleepwalking Past Hope) could prove to change my mind yet again on where HIM are going with VD.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Veronica Rose on July 30, 2007, 10:59:25 AM
I am looking forward to hearing the songs that we haven't heard which I think are of the 10 minute variety.  It would seem to me that this is a transistion album as they appear to be midway between their original love metal sound and a more doom laden future which looks to be the direction Ville wants to head for being as he is a big doom fan. I certainly hope so although there is not much money in it and most doom bands do it for the love of the music which perhaps is becoming increasingly important to him. I am sure that Sire have a lot to do with the way the album has been mixed as all they are interested in is getting a return on their investment. I suspect that is why Tim Palmer was once more brought in as without him I think it would have been a lot heavier but what can you do when you are tied into a contract. Sometimes you have to lay down with the devil but hopefully if it is commercially successful they will be able to dictate how they want the next album to sound but on what I have heard so far it is infinitely better than Dark Light and I agree that live the songs do sound much heavier and therefore, for me personally, better.....
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: TheSacramentIsYou on August 01, 2007, 06:51:01 AM
ok, are there anymore songs out, in full from the album, apart from PKF, KOD, and LICB (30 sec only) ??
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jack Sparrow on August 01, 2007, 08:02:26 AM
ok, are there anymore songs out, in full from the album, apart from PKF, KOD, and LICB (30 sec only) ??

Yep,  Venus Doom (the song)  that its been in some radios in Finland.

 ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 05:52:18 PM
i think love in cold blood is gonna kick all of our asses. it reminds me of judas priest... venus doom radio edit sounds good but i wanna hear the album version cause it feels like something is missing well i know there is and  i think with it there the song will be completely awesome. dead lover's lane is the one that is really picking at my brain i can't figuer the lyrics out and half the ones you find on line from people i feel are very inaccurate, this song gets me pumped but also worries me i hope that it sounds as heavy on the album as it does live.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on August 01, 2007, 06:09:17 PM
From which website is everybody purchasing the special edition of Venus Doom? Or preordering, rather.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on August 01, 2007, 06:10:40 PM
heartagram.com/venusdoom
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 07:25:04 PM
New code on heartagram... bleed well.... you can hear cyanide sun... i can't get it to work for me though it says enjoy cyanide sun but it won't play for me
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 07:29:18 PM
www.heartagram.com/cookiepass.php?file=cyanidesun115

Try that.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 07:35:18 PM
god damnit i'm getting pissed this thing won't play for me can anyone rip it and put it up here for me??? :(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 07:35:57 PM
Sure.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on August 01, 2007, 07:37:38 PM
hmm...not sure what i think about it. Im sure it will grow on me. Sorta sounds like everything else out there, hopefully they pull through and somethingelse happens during the song!  :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 07:39:28 PM
Sure.

thanks dude  ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 07:41:05 PM
Its a nice slow song. HIM always has those. :)

It kind of reminds me of the path.

I am uploading it.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 07:43:33 PM
http://download.yousendit.com/3074F1906AC35115
Sounds shitty, I am doing another rip.

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 07:45:01 PM
i dunno why it won't play for me what program do you need to play it off the site?
thank you very much . i was freaking out like a lil teeny bopper fan girl lol
i was like nooo why won't  you work damn you scuba steve!!!! i needed to throw that big daddy ref. sorry i'm excited... :D
it says download limit exceeded already ??? wtf
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 07:47:38 PM
should've known high heart is the stop
to tearing each other apart
Seperating souls entwined in all those
lathering thin lies(??? lol)
 I'll be drowning you
in this river of doom
forever in my heart
and my love
this emptiness ive made my home
with memories so deep im gone
fuck I dont know. I barely paid attention to typing.


Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 07:48:09 PM
Hang on. I will upload a different one.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 07:50:04 PM
http://download.yousendit.com/E4DC383E5EE777D6

Turn your volume down, I keep setting the record rating down, but it still records it all loudly.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 07:52:05 PM
it still keeps saying this person exceeded their download limit like the other one  :-\
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 07:52:36 PM
Man, the internet hates you. lol.

I will use a different server.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: muschy on August 01, 2007, 07:54:00 PM
i actually really enjoyed that and i'm looking forward to that song completely now
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 07:56:12 PM
Megaupload- Cyanide sun http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MHEFF95H
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 07:56:46 PM
lol i guess today it does, is it just part of the song like the love in cold blood clip?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 07:57:44 PM
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MHEFF95H

Pretty much. More vocals and lyrics.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 08:05:21 PM
i give up dude plus karma too you but  i can't make those out barely at all they are all fuzzy.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 08:09:40 PM
Hmm.
I will keep working on it.

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 08:22:38 PM
does anyone know what i need to play this on the actual web site when you put the code in? i put the code in and just a tiny little white box shows up and nothing plays instaed of a player what kind of player comes up when it plays?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 08:34:49 PM
i'm having the same problem as you   :(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: olav elliv on August 01, 2007, 08:38:03 PM
same thing to me too
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on August 01, 2007, 08:42:37 PM
Now sorting out a rip of it, to add to Necropolis' efforts.

Will be same quality as the version of Passion's Killing Floor I uploaded.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 08:43:55 PM
For those who do not have the patch plug-in. Did you try this?

www.heartagram.com/cookiepass.php?file=cyanidesun115
It runs off of quicktime.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on August 01, 2007, 08:52:02 PM
http://media.thesacrament.net/x/Cyanide Sun (Heartagram.com Clip).rar (http://media.thesacrament.net/x/Cyanide Sun (Heartagram.com Clip).rar)


There goes.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 09:01:01 PM
thanx man appreciate it ! sounds like what i was needing from these boys. ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 09:09:28 PM
Len, you finally got it. :)

I really like this song, I can't wait to hear the whole thing now. Which will probably be soon.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 09:16:38 PM
lol finally :) hey if you get to hear the whole thing soon i wanna hear it too buddy :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 01, 2007, 09:18:11 PM
No problem.

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on August 01, 2007, 09:43:10 PM
*crosses fingers*... and the CD shall leak on______? Haha, can't wait.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 01, 2007, 09:50:33 PM
*crosses fingers*... and the CD shall leak on______? Haha, can't wait.
ditto x 5
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on August 01, 2007, 10:25:51 PM
OH I'm Crying!!! This song is so Beautiful!!!!

maybe the better song that HIM was release since 2004 (in my opinion)

I really in love with this new song!!!

wooow i can't wait  :'( I'm so exciteed!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: anya060 on August 01, 2007, 11:05:16 PM
[url]http://media.thesacrament.net/x/Cyanide[/url] Sun (Heartagram.com Clip).rar ([url]http://media.thesacrament.net/x/Cyanide[/url] Sun (Heartagram.com Clip).rar)


There goes.


thanks ;D
+1
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Devilish330 on August 02, 2007, 12:04:36 AM
[url]http://media.thesacrament.net/x/Cyanide[/url] Sun (Heartagram.com Clip).rar ([url]http://media.thesacrament.net/x/Cyanide[/url] Sun (Heartagram.com Clip).rar)


There goes.



The heartagram page doesn't work for me after I enter the password so thank you for ripping the clip  :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on August 02, 2007, 02:12:45 AM
You know they can't. The copies are watermarked and people would be in serious shit if they leaked anything.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Crimmins on August 02, 2007, 02:48:40 AM
the new song it reminds me of the Path a lot
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: dan666 on August 02, 2007, 05:31:56 AM
[url]http://media.thesacrament.net/x/Cyanide[/url] Sun (Heartagram.com Clip).rar ([url]http://media.thesacrament.net/x/Cyanide[/url] Sun (Heartagram.com Clip).rar)


There goes.


thanks ;D
+1


thanks +1
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on August 02, 2007, 06:42:30 AM
ahhh cyanide sun sounds so beautiful.....  :o
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on August 02, 2007, 09:00:54 AM
They could if they wanted to, but they know it's being officially released, so it makes them feel special to have it before the majority of everybody else.


exactly


Guess a little more patience won't hurt.  We will have it real soon you can tell because of how much of the album we already have/have heard  ;)

[url]http://media.thesacrament.net/x/Cyanide[/url] Sun (Heartagram.com Clip).rar ([url]http://media.thesacrament.net/x/Cyanide[/url] Sun (Heartagram.com Clip).rar)


There goes.


thanks ;D
+1


thanks +1


No worries people, anything for people here at TheSacrament hehe.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: eairthrow on August 02, 2007, 01:08:18 PM
Finally a beautiful ballad...come venus, come...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: eairthrow on August 02, 2007, 01:24:05 PM
Awful video...  :-\
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: TheSacramentIsYou on August 02, 2007, 01:33:24 PM
thanks for the link with cookie thing. i got it working after entering the code then.

the song.... i though it was ok, really. not outstanding  :-\

i'm waiting to hear Dead Lovers Lane track in full though, since i liked the live song.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on August 02, 2007, 02:32:46 PM
hahaha rob on the video...it was very gay, yet very funny. I don't know what i think about the song im leaning towards "dont like it"
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lovemetal626 on August 02, 2007, 05:38:35 PM
this song is awesome, and yeah i agree it does remind me of The Path alot.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 02, 2007, 06:00:27 PM
the new song it reminds me of the Path a lot

That's what I think.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 02, 2007, 06:21:06 PM
it's sounds like if sabbath and type o had a freak child together i'm in love with it. i think it is def gonna be the best closing track they've ever had for an album
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: snuffupakiss on August 02, 2007, 10:17:33 PM
i like this song cyanide sun very much. it is like the path- i adore that one.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: r@zorbl@de on August 03, 2007, 02:32:38 AM
it's sounds like if sabbath and type o had a freak child together i'm in love with it. i think it is def gonna be the best closing track they've ever had for an album

we'll see, to me the path was by far the best closing track they had so far...
really epic with an extremely good ending part... i'm loving it...

i hope the full cyanide sun song will also be great...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: alterego on August 03, 2007, 02:55:48 AM
so far i'm really liking what i've heard.  it gives me hope that we wont have another dark light on our hands.  because i can count the songs i actually like off that album on 1 hand
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: muschy on August 03, 2007, 08:36:19 AM
www.myspace.com/venusdoompreview
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on August 03, 2007, 09:16:29 AM
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=NfjwH5madEE&mode=related&search=[/url]


enjoy!
hahahahahaha


That's hilarious, hahaha
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Dylon Fujifilm on August 03, 2007, 10:13:32 PM
OH MAN!!!! hahahah!!


so what version are you guys going to pre order?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on August 03, 2007, 11:21:01 PM
I'll probably get the special edition, then just download the extra song I'm missing. Seriously, $50 is WAY too much for a bunch of pictures and some leather and what not.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on August 03, 2007, 11:22:57 PM
I'm going to get the leather bound edition, and then maybe the special edition at some store in the future.

I did the same thing with Dark Light, and it was a good enough time in between to make it seem like I wasn't spending too much cash.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on August 04, 2007, 12:48:00 AM
I agree with Weemo, $50 for all taht stuff!? I mean wtf thats way to much money, dont get me wrong i can afford it and am a HUGE fan but i just want the music.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on August 04, 2007, 12:59:57 AM
i pre-order the limited leather book edition xD...


the total price of this CD is $60 aprox.  :(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on August 04, 2007, 01:46:34 AM
Expect a surprise in the next days to come for some of you.
Ciao.
H.T.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on August 04, 2007, 07:55:34 AM
yeah...i pre-order it too...58$   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Dylon Fujifilm on August 04, 2007, 07:36:21 PM
yeah 60 for a damn cd is pricey but hell... ill get it haha!

hopefully we will get it before its out in stores like when DL came out
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 04, 2007, 07:38:42 PM
Expect a surprise in the next days to come for some of you.
Ciao.
H.T.
as my pants slowly become moist oh yeah so excited....
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jack Sparrow on August 04, 2007, 09:28:14 PM
yeah...i pre-order it too...58$   ;D ;D ;D


did it too!!  D'oh!   $58.98

that hurts!!

 :-\
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on August 05, 2007, 04:25:15 PM
yeah...i pre-order it too...58$   ;D ;D ;D


did it too!!  D'oh!   $58.98

that hurts!!

 :-\

57.98$

my sister...she bought it for me...i'll buy the normal version...  :D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on August 05, 2007, 05:19:35 PM
Expect a surprise in the next days to come for some of you.
Ciao.
H.T.

How many times have you said that already? You said that like 2 weeks ago. I haven't seen anything.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on August 06, 2007, 01:06:46 AM
maybe i just pissed in your tea.
So that's what they mean by "other natural flavors."  ::)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on August 06, 2007, 02:00:14 AM
Okay, is there gonna be anything else from Venus Doom comming out soon or be leaked onto the internet, im sick of checking htis site everyday and there being JACK SHIT here...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on August 06, 2007, 02:55:20 AM
ok inferno and davison stop the bitching he said some of you which means only a few people will get it. davison if you dont like this site then leave nobody is forcing you to stay here.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jack Sparrow on August 06, 2007, 08:14:29 AM
Okay, is there gonna be anything else from Venus Doom comming out soon or be leaked onto the internet, im sick of checking htis site everyday and there being JACK SHIT here...

Then quit the site checking n00b!



Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Dylon Fujifilm on August 06, 2007, 09:30:08 AM
...im sick of checking htis site everyday and there being JACK SHIT here...

Yeah Davidson955, you're a very negative person in nearly everything you post.
This site wasn't made for you to just come in and get freebies.
'


yeah and plus we dont post leaked material on this site at all. When dark light was released we were told not to post anything from the cd unless it was a sample
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: loveslastbreath on August 06, 2007, 11:22:17 AM
i hope the album leaks fromwhat ive herd of the album it sounds awesome andif it wasntfor damn warner it would be out by now
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 06, 2007, 11:28:06 AM
Okay, is there gonna be anything else from Venus Doom comming out soon or be leaked onto the internet, im sick of checking htis site everyday and there being JACK SHIT here...
yeah if that is all you are here for you shouldn't be here then.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: shanemaloney on August 06, 2007, 11:42:17 AM
oh that davidson955...he expects everyone else to find leaked tracks....jesus man do it yourself...(and as other members already said) "no one is forcing you to stay".....p.s nobody wants to spoil the suprise of the new album...caz if you keep hearing leaked tracks you wont look 4ward to the album much... am i right?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on August 06, 2007, 12:26:16 PM
wow, ok I'm sorry I posted that last night. I jsut got back form a party and was "outta it" Shit, i feel like an ass now. Just want to apologize to ppl for being negative! I deserve what i got, sry again
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: shanemaloney on August 06, 2007, 01:16:50 PM
jen would you not rather wait until the album comes out?caz it wont be such a suprise if you hear all the songs.lol not bein bitchy or nothin.... 8) ::)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jack Sparrow on August 06, 2007, 01:30:17 PM

 :D well I only know that I preordered the limited one so I will wait for it just to get the run for my money  :D

and of course,  there will be this little devil inside telling me:   hear the leaked tracks!!  hear the leaked tracks!!!

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on August 06, 2007, 02:30:49 PM
I'm the same way. Everytime a new song leaks I try not to listen. I want to be somewhat surprised when the album comes out.  Dark Light turned out ok, I only heard VH, KL and WOAB before release (well, the Warner listening party I went to a few weeks prior), but so far I've heard at least some of every song on Venus Doom except Song or Suicide. At least we have the bonus tracks/Kiss of Dawn b-sides to look forward to!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on August 06, 2007, 02:35:45 PM
Correction, 2 songs I've not heard!  :D
And Jen, congratulations on your 500th post!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: shanemaloney on August 06, 2007, 03:17:14 PM
ha if must take ages to get that many posts!!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on August 06, 2007, 05:32:16 PM
You have to shoot for that magical number that gives you the title of "A Fucking Legend."  Jerry is the closest, but not close enough.

Edit: The counter has to be screwed up, I don't have 794 posts.  I barely have 200 if that...

As for VD, I've banned myself from listening to any of the material anymore (including the tracks we already have) unless it's a complete leak.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 06, 2007, 05:36:14 PM
I can not do that, It is an addiction for me. Kiss of dawn everyday. On repeat.

I gotta have my fix.

As for the posts, I never really pay attention to those, so let me know when I hit the fucking legend. lol
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on August 06, 2007, 05:37:35 PM
I guess I do have 795 (now)...I've been posting more recently, so I guess it would have to be right. 
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 06, 2007, 05:42:02 PM
Jay, you have the ability to up your post count up to a million if you wanted to.

I am sure it would reset at that point.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on August 06, 2007, 05:44:07 PM
Haha, I guess you're right.  Oh, it just hides your post count and says "I am a geek." 

Edit: Back to normal
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 06, 2007, 05:46:53 PM
Interesting. You should change it to "Official forum operator" or something.:)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: The Bloody Glove on August 06, 2007, 08:24:37 PM
I agree

I am not listening to anymore of the songs till it comes out
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on August 06, 2007, 09:10:22 PM
ok inferno and davison stop the bitching he said some of you which means only a few people will get it. davison if you dont like this site then leave nobody is forcing you to stay here.

I wasn't bitching lol, I was saying that he says that alot and i havn't seen anything.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on August 06, 2007, 09:44:22 PM
You wanna know the sad thing?

I signed in just now and saw that two pages of posts had been added from when I signed in earlier...

I thought this meant another leak had been done...when actually it was a conversation about post counts...

Oh the life of a HIM addict :P
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 06, 2007, 09:57:17 PM
You wanna know the sad thing?

I signed in just now and saw that two pages of posts had been added from when I signed in earlier...

I thought this meant another leak had been done...when actually it was a conversation about post counts...

Oh the life of a HIM addict :P
lol thats was one of the best posts i have ever read! lol great.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on August 06, 2007, 10:57:11 PM
rdrtddtdrtr
Whoring posts won't get you intot he media section. The mods will probably just delete them. You're not adding anything constructive to the community.  ::)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: SolitaryHeartache on August 06, 2007, 11:30:22 PM
You wanna know the sad thing?

I signed in just now and saw that two pages of posts had been added from when I signed in earlier...

I thought this meant another leak had been done...when actually it was a conversation about post counts...

Oh the life of a HIM addict :P
lol thats was one of the best posts i have ever read! lol great.

Haha  ;D

Good times.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 07, 2007, 12:47:40 AM
When I decide to expose VD. I will send PMs out to certain people with the link.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on August 07, 2007, 01:20:42 AM
I was exposed to VD once. But not the HIM kind.
In seriousness though, I kind of agree with Jen's explanation that we haven't heard the album versions yet, so it's ok. Besides that, if HIM is "leaking" clips on their official site,  then obviously they want us to hear them. I can't wait for Love in Cold Blood. I think right now that's the song I want most. And the album version of Venus Doom.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on August 07, 2007, 01:27:33 AM
When I decide to expose VD. I will send PMs out to certain people with the link.

omg!  :o hahaha

please people don't abuse with it xD and please pre-order the VD album XD  ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 07, 2007, 01:29:58 AM
I pre-ordered all of them. lol.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on August 07, 2007, 01:34:43 AM
I've got the black book version ordered. I'll just pick up the other two at Target. (Gotta support the bullseye!)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 07, 2007, 01:37:07 AM
Every now and then, I will get a hot dog there lol.

I figured I would just order them all at once, and get it over with. But I can't wait to hold the BB version. :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on August 07, 2007, 01:38:28 AM
someone know the "new songs" of the bonus cd?

*i cant wait, i got preorder the BB edition T.T ... september 18th ¬¬ .... AHHHHHHHH  :'(*
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 07, 2007, 01:39:34 AM
A couple remixes, and...

An un-revealed bonus track. They may claim it as "untitled".
But of course, that would be them ripping of Smashing Pumpkins.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on August 07, 2007, 01:46:50 AM
The parchment envelopes thing intrigues me. I like the fact that someone took the time to come up with this thing. It's not just the CD in the back of the book like Dark Light. And 60 pages? That's pretty extensive for a CD book[let]. I think the deluxe version of MCR's Black Parade was only a 32 or 48 page book. That was a decent special edition too. I've noticed that Warner has been doing that alot lately. A lot of major bands of theirs gets a "super special limited edition" of some sort. I am glad they decided to do it with Venus Doom.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 07, 2007, 01:49:10 AM
Same thing with Hot Topic. They will slap a heartagram on a random bag and sell it for 50 bucks. Meanwhile the bag was only like 2 dollars worth.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on August 07, 2007, 01:53:33 AM
Jerry you slut, I want your VD....
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 07, 2007, 01:54:20 AM
Smile like a doughnut. lol
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on August 07, 2007, 01:55:46 AM
 :o
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on August 07, 2007, 01:57:02 AM
hahahaha
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on August 07, 2007, 02:07:09 AM
Well at least it's keeping the board fresh.

God knows this is more fun than another, "What's your favorite song off Razorblade Romance?" thread.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on August 07, 2007, 02:08:34 AM
Damn it, I was gonna start a "What's your favorite track off of the Killing Loneliness Single? (European Digipak English Fifth Reich Edition)?"

Actually, what was the third single from Dark Light?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on August 07, 2007, 02:10:12 AM
One could say it was Vampire Heart, seeing as it was the only other song after Wings Of A Butterfly and Killing Loneliness to be released in a single format.

EDIT:
Yes, it was only in vinyl format. It was silver/clear and came with some lame sticker; I never picked it up.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on August 07, 2007, 02:10:48 AM
Was it?  I don't remember.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on August 07, 2007, 02:11:57 AM
Actually, Vampire Heart came before KL. Under The Rose was the only other "single" and that was just a radio promo single. Dark Light was all sorts of fucked up on singles.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on August 07, 2007, 02:26:14 AM
hey in U.S. is the Kiss Of Dawn Video in TV?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Crimmins on August 07, 2007, 02:39:06 AM
no i havent seen it yet honestly it will prolly only get played on like sattelite stations like fuse an MTV2 and stuff tho..  :-\
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on August 07, 2007, 07:15:24 AM
i deleted all VD stuff from my computer too...i really hope the album wont leak in the next 4 weeks. i want it in september...not now...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on August 07, 2007, 07:29:06 AM
yeah i have them all on the cd...but thats the hardest thing....not to listen the cd... :D

if the album leaks now i wont be so excited when the release date come... even not at all....so i can wait a little more... :)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jack Sparrow on August 07, 2007, 08:27:39 AM
Well done :)
I got rid of all VD from my computer...
...but I confess they're all still on my iPod.

Same thing over here,    at least the only thing that survived deletion is the Kiss of Dawn single remix...     at least let's say it's something "official"  not leaked   :D

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Dylon Fujifilm on August 07, 2007, 09:37:23 AM
i just have passion and kiss....so i think im good the album will be a suprise to me
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on August 07, 2007, 10:17:59 AM
There is some guy on Demonoid that just posted Viva La Bands Vol. 2. It's not out for quite some time yet. He said that "soon after im goin to put up tracks from the new him cd venus doom."
Don't know if he's just talking about PKF, KOD and VD, but I'll keep a lookout.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on August 07, 2007, 11:28:10 AM
Let's start a movement: RID YOURSELF OF VD UNTIL 9/18

Actually, even if it leaks, nobody's gonna force you to download it.  Although, I know when I tried resisting the download of "Venus Doom," I couldn't hold out anymore after everyone was saying how awesome it was.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on August 07, 2007, 11:35:56 AM
It will be tempting to get more VD. At this point though, I can't stop listening to the three songs we do have. They are stuck in my head too often, so cutting them out until 9/18 might drive me insane. Well, more insane. Just a tiny bit.  ;D

Hmm...I could create a nifty little signature banner for all of those ridding themselves of VD. I'll post that up once I'm done.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/ddpgambit/vdfree.jpg)
Ehh it kinda sucks, but it gets the point across.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: S. Carnage Esq. on August 07, 2007, 11:59:08 AM
I might go without the album until the release, with the exception being the live tracks and possibly the concert I'll go to.

Granted, I did it last time with Dark Light, and I still have a bad taste in my mouth from that album.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Daedalus on August 07, 2007, 12:33:33 PM
You're welcome. I like the "Or until I can't take it anymore"  ;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on August 07, 2007, 03:06:28 PM
I'll make my pledge now...my iPod still has the tracks on it, and I can't help it if it decides to throw them in during a shuffle.

When I have access to better editing tools at home, I'll modify it for my own purposes.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on August 07, 2007, 03:42:25 PM
It will be tempting to get more VD. At this point though, I can't stop listening to the three songs we do have. They are stuck in my head too often, so cutting them out until 9/18 might drive me insane. Well, more insane. Just a tiny bit.  ;D

Hmm...I could create a nifty little signature banner for all of those ridding themselves of VD. I'll post that up once I'm done.

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/ddpgambit/vdfree.jpg[/url])
Ehh it kinda sucks, but it gets the point across.




yeaahh! nice :)

we must help HIM...


;D 



OHHH i can't wait  :'( xD i can listen VD album 1641641564152452452 times after to get the BB edition... and when i will get it in my arms ... listen the CD 613616661616961666964654564564613666616919696 times again XD
but i don't have the promo xD  u.u shit! i need friends (with VD) XD  :'(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on August 07, 2007, 03:52:55 PM
can we make this  more global?  ??? i mean not only here. lets do it like a campaign....
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on August 07, 2007, 03:58:44 PM
i think the same (after of this campaign) about don't share with everybody VD... we need help the band... in my fan club we think the same

Say "NO" to the piracy and internet downloads (torrents, mp3, videos)
and if we download it, we must buy the original CDs, DVDs, etc...


EDIT
*my new nickname XD hahaha ... i need change it  XD *
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jay on August 07, 2007, 04:05:44 PM
I don't know, sometimes you don't have a say as to whether or not you get VD.  I mean, you should have some sort of idea of what you're getting into (no pun intended) before you commit to anything but you never really know until it's too late.  It's a serious thing, my friend.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on August 07, 2007, 04:06:22 PM
hahaha aww!

i change my nickname again XD


Pussyfer 919 was a good nickname XD but i don't know why change it again XD... *searching a new nick*

....


How i can get a time machine? XD i can't wait one day more XD i want VD  :'(
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: shanemaloney on August 07, 2007, 04:46:26 PM
ha
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Inferno on August 07, 2007, 05:01:47 PM
Cause only a selected few got the promo and it's meant for promotional use which in turn will make warner make more money off of it, so in a way, yes they are paying for it.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 07, 2007, 05:20:19 PM
I listened to KOD all day today at work. What now?

Fuck NOT listening to it. lol.

But you guys mean to tell me if I upload the whole album you wont listen to it? lol or what if I upload all songs but one? haha
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on August 07, 2007, 05:25:23 PM
But you guys mean to tell me if I upload the whole album you wont listen to it?

lets see  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 07, 2007, 05:25:49 PM
Haha, That would consist of me breaking a promise.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on August 07, 2007, 05:30:21 PM
Haha, That would consist of me breaking a promise.

you dont need to say this.

if i had the album too  i wouldnt upload it too.....  8)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on August 07, 2007, 05:33:43 PM
i think the album should leak or release when the band wants, not when we wants...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: loveslastbreath on August 07, 2007, 05:43:55 PM
i think the album should leak or release when the band wants, not when we wants...

the band wanted it released on july 10 but warner said no
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on August 07, 2007, 05:53:20 PM
Haha, That would consist of me breaking a promise.
That would consist of you having the album first haha.  ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on August 07, 2007, 06:11:57 PM
if I get the album, i only will share with some friends, my girlfriend maybe XD...

but if we share it with everybody, maybe in a week you can find the album in some piracy stores or Torrent/P2P software... and HIM will lose money (or other things) ¬¬  ...

 :-[

well... but i don't have the album XD  :'( someone can share the promo with me? XD HAHAHA  :'( ^^ please  ;D  ;) :$ hahaha
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on August 07, 2007, 06:18:16 PM
Leaking the album early won't stop most people from buying it. Those that wish to pirate it will still download it once the album is released whether it's leaked or not.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RStrauss1111 on August 07, 2007, 06:20:08 PM
You be surprised, Bands do not make all that much off CD sales.
Pennies of each CD.

Im surprised they havent leaked it themselves to promote tour sales.
Thats where the big bucks are. Shows and Merch...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alex on August 07, 2007, 06:48:30 PM
yeah thats true. they takes the money for each album, not from each cd...but some people says that the bands takes only % from the sales...if this is true the album really dont have to leak....


last year Ville said a lot of times that the new album should release in september 2007. then when they've done the demos in the beginning of this year the new date was 10 july.... but warner back the release date for september. this doesnt mean that the album should leak...so...   ;)

i wanted 10 july for release date too but everthing has a good and bad side...
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lovemetal626 on August 07, 2007, 07:08:44 PM
darn warner  >:(


ohwell

if the album leaks i think i will listen to it, even though i shouldnt

cuz i bought the $50 edition  :D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: RaKoHaMMaS on August 07, 2007, 08:55:16 PM
I'd listen. I'm buying the special edition anyway.
Just waiting for it to be leaked to listen to.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 07, 2007, 08:55:58 PM
I pre-ordered all of them. lol.
ha me too hopefully when you expose it i'll be one of the lucky ones  ;)
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 07, 2007, 09:35:08 PM
...you guys mean to tell me if I upload the whole album you wont listen to it?
lol or what if I upload all songs but one? haha

Look mister -

You just turned me on with those two words.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Len777 on August 07, 2007, 09:39:16 PM
...you guys mean to tell me if I upload the whole album you wont listen to it?
lol or what if I upload all songs but one? haha

Look mister - I've been really good for about 7 HOURS now, and haven't listened to a VD track, not even once! That's took loads of effort I can tell you.
Then you go saying things like that and I swear I nearly ripped down my promise banner!

This is going to be tough.
i love your sig jen lol
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 07, 2007, 10:55:41 PM
I wonder what the hidden track will be.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on August 08, 2007, 12:20:22 AM
i nowthis has nothing to do with Venus Doom, but I jsut got a new HIM tattoo and i want to post it but have no idea how to upload pics, can someone please help me so i can share it! thanks u
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 08, 2007, 12:28:57 AM
I got you covered buddy.

In the "Gallery of stars" thread, there is a "Tattoo gallery"

www.imageshack.com I think you can upload one there.
It will give you a link. Copy and paste the link into the tattoo gallery.
Then. Give it the image brackets. Just highlight the link after you paste it, and click the button under tags, that has a picture frame.
(http://][img]http://Your picture here)[/img]
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Lujja on August 08, 2007, 12:42:23 AM
you can upload your picture in:

http://www.imageshack.us

;D
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Jerry Lee on August 08, 2007, 12:44:48 AM
Yeah that was it. Thank you. :)

But anyway. Good luck to you on that.

Back to Doom.

I hear they may be re-doing PKF...

Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Davidson955 on August 08, 2007, 12:53:46 AM
THANKs ALOT!
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Tauriainen on August 08, 2007, 01:35:19 AM
Ok.

Yes, some of you have a two minute version of those tracks.
But again, that was done too for L.M. when it came out a month before it came out.

Someone (not me, I respect people's wishes) has posted that folder in the Torrent world.

The Art Cover was indeed revealed (as well as the back). With the Black Sleeve it was delivered on and the  W.B. Form sheet.

If you share this, please delete the form sheet for the security of others.

P.S.
If you are giving me negative feedback for not giving out links or selling someone down the river. Than you are just a sad person(s) for thinking that way about me.
Artistical views are different from Enjoyable ones.

Thank you for those who respected my privacy.

As for what version I will purchase, none again. I will simply ask for it; if I can get it good if not it isn't the end of the world.

With that at hand.
ciao.

H.T.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on August 08, 2007, 02:19:38 AM
So somebody leaked some samples?
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Weemo on August 08, 2007, 02:26:44 AM
Apparently somebody leaked 2 minute samplers of Venus Doom as a torrent somewhere, Tauriainen isn't giving out any links, and he reiterated his stance on HIM's music haha, if I understood him correctly.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lovemetal626 on August 08, 2007, 03:15:22 AM
that seems kinda silly to tell us about it then say i wont show you


you should of not told us at all, if you didnt want to get negative feedback.


thats like the government telling me a super secret

and then i post on TV that i know this super secret, ... but im not telling 



guys i think i found it but this part is dumb


.. i found it on Warez Quality torrent site

and its sooooo lame


to download it you need to be a member, so ok you think yeah ill just sign up

NO they make you sign up for some disgusting  Adult site first ,

wow this is soo dumb. lol  :D

i donno if its real or not, one moment when i search it finds a file called "Venus Doom Full Release" and the size of it is 800mb  but then when you click this link and/or search it on the site sometimes you dont get it.

http://www.warezquality.com/search.php?a=reactor&q=Venus+Doom (http://www.warezquality.com/search.php?a=reactor&q=Venus+Doom)




sorry guys i searched and searched but no luck... i let you guys down  :-[
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: lastxcallforsin on August 08, 2007, 03:20:37 AM
I've searched through about 20 popular torrent sites and found nothing. If it's out there, I'm sure it will find it's way on here eventually.
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on August 08, 2007, 03:36:58 AM
I've searched through about 20 popular torrent sites and found nothing. If it's out there, I'm sure it will find it's way on here eventually.

and ill be here to make sure it wont get to this site we dont want any leaked material...

lovemetal please edit your double post into one thanks
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on August 08, 2007, 03:38:04 AM
it's against site rules
Title: Re: Venus Doom Thread
Post by: Alone I Break on August 08, 2007, 03:40:33 AM
welcome back cory