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Ville has said, that it was horrible when they were making DSABH. For starters HIM wanted the album to be recorded in Finland, because after the long Razorblade tour everybody wanted to sleep in their own beds and just go to Finnvox Studios in Helsinki which is located near their homes. The demo sessions for DSABH were held at Petrax Studios, Hollola, Finland during Autumn 2000. The demos were produced by T.T. Oksala. According to Ville, T.T. was the only producer in Finland who understood something about heavy sounds. The band fell in love with the results so much that they wanted to keep them for the actual record. The tape was even mastered. But then the record company (BMG) didn't like the idea of putting an old man like T.T. as the producer, so they had to hire some expensive guys instead. Then they were in the studio with some random guys, that they didn't even want to be in the studio. Mige had said, that he is leaving the band if even a noise was changed. Then they hired the 1st other producer, Kevin Shirley from New York. He had done bands like Bon Jovi and Aerosmith before. His job was to think what could be added to the tapes and invent some new elements to the music. And guess what, Mige was fucking angry When HIM was doing RR with John Fryer, he wanted to keep good vibes in the studio and so on, but apparently Kevin was one hell of a bossman. Ville admits, that Kevin had some good ideas also. The band liked "Heartache Every Moment" very much, but it was missing something. The lyrics in the chorus were nothing but singing "Heartache Every Moment" all the time, so Kevin wanted Ville to add some more lyrics to the part. It worked, and the song is Ville's favorite song on the album. "Pretending" and "Please Don't Let It Go" were recorded again with Kevin. Ville says that "Pretending" didn't even sound like an own song anymore. But Kevin was a nice guy outside the studio, so the guys were hanging out with him in bars in Helsinki. The fun part is that Kevin learned a couple of Finnish words, "yksi, kaksi, kolme" which means "one, two, three" and "Koskenkorva" which is a Finnish Vodka, and also "Vittu" which means "Fuck!". The album was finally recorded. John Fryer is also mentioned as some producer on the album, but I don't know the story of that. But in the end Deep Shadows had 5 mixing guys: Chris Lord-Alge, John Fryer, Randy Staub, Kevin Shirley and Ville in "Love You Like I Do". And 3 producers: T.T Oksala, Kevin Shirley and John Fryer.
they were even forced by the BMG to go to London (i think it was London) to make the fucking album cover with some expensive photographer, like they did not have any in Finland. Yeah they hate the album. yeah we know that, the album sounds differently, poppy and whatnot, but its still one of their best in my opinion and one of my most favorites. I think demos from Hollola tapes are great. heavy and T.T. was great and did a fucking amazing job, but i still dont see any fucking reason why they did not reissued the Hollola tapes , the T.T. version, it would have been much better idea than XX Two decades....
Quote from: DarkSecret666 on February 25, 2017, 08:41:22 AMVille has said, that it was horrible when they were making DSABH. For starters HIM wanted the album to be recorded in Finland, because after the long Razorblade tour everybody wanted to sleep in their own beds and just go to Finnvox Studios in Helsinki which is located near their homes. The demo sessions for DSABH were held at Petrax Studios, Hollola, Finland during Autumn 2000. The demos were produced by T.T. Oksala. According to Ville, T.T. was the only producer in Finland who understood something about heavy sounds. The band fell in love with the results so much that they wanted to keep them for the actual record. The tape was even mastered. But then the record company (BMG) didn't like the idea of putting an old man like T.T. as the producer, so they had to hire some expensive guys instead. Then they were in the studio with some random guys, that they didn't even want to be in the studio. Mige had said, that he is leaving the band if even a noise was changed. Then they hired the 1st other producer, Kevin Shirley from New York. He had done bands like Bon Jovi and Aerosmith before. His job was to think what could be added to the tapes and invent some new elements to the music. And guess what, Mige was fucking angry When HIM was doing RR with John Fryer, he wanted to keep good vibes in the studio and so on, but apparently Kevin was one hell of a bossman. Ville admits, that Kevin had some good ideas also. The band liked "Heartache Every Moment" very much, but it was missing something. The lyrics in the chorus were nothing but singing "Heartache Every Moment" all the time, so Kevin wanted Ville to add some more lyrics to the part. It worked, and the song is Ville's favorite song on the album. "Pretending" and "Please Don't Let It Go" were recorded again with Kevin. Ville says that "Pretending" didn't even sound like an own song anymore. But Kevin was a nice guy outside the studio, so the guys were hanging out with him in bars in Helsinki. The fun part is that Kevin learned a couple of Finnish words, "yksi, kaksi, kolme" which means "one, two, three" and "Koskenkorva" which is a Finnish Vodka, and also "Vittu" which means "Fuck!". The album was finally recorded. John Fryer is also mentioned as some producer on the album, but I don't know the story of that. But in the end Deep Shadows had 5 mixing guys: Chris Lord-Alge, John Fryer, Randy Staub, Kevin Shirley and Ville in "Love You Like I Do". And 3 producers: T.T Oksala, Kevin Shirley and John Fryer. Thank you for the info. I noticed when I was listening to the bonus tracks that some of the songs (In love and lonely, love you like I do) have a bit of a RR vibe. Heartache every moment was one of the first songs when I can hear a bit of polishing on villes vocals that transitioned from the more raspy razor blade romance techniques. So far, has any other album had any sort of changed like this?
The Deep Shadows demos were fine but I expected more out of them after them playing the original version of Please Don't Let It Go live and Bam talking them up to be epic on his radio show. Heavier and faster like the original version of Beautiful.
Quote from: SIRJARVIS01 on February 25, 2017, 12:52:43 PMQuote from: DarkSecret666 on February 25, 2017, 08:41:22 AMVille has said, that it was horrible when they were making DSABH. For starters HIM wanted the album to be recorded in Finland, because after the long Razorblade tour everybody wanted to sleep in their own beds and just go to Finnvox Studios in Helsinki which is located near their homes. The demo sessions for DSABH were held at Petrax Studios, Hollola, Finland during Autumn 2000. The demos were produced by T.T. Oksala. According to Ville, T.T. was the only producer in Finland who understood something about heavy sounds. The band fell in love with the results so much that they wanted to keep them for the actual record. The tape was even mastered. But then the record company (BMG) didn't like the idea of putting an old man like T.T. as the producer, so they had to hire some expensive guys instead. Then they were in the studio with some random guys, that they didn't even want to be in the studio. Mige had said, that he is leaving the band if even a noise was changed. Then they hired the 1st other producer, Kevin Shirley from New York. He had done bands like Bon Jovi and Aerosmith before. His job was to think what could be added to the tapes and invent some new elements to the music. And guess what, Mige was fucking angry When HIM was doing RR with John Fryer, he wanted to keep good vibes in the studio and so on, but apparently Kevin was one hell of a bossman. Ville admits, that Kevin had some good ideas also. The band liked "Heartache Every Moment" very much, but it was missing something. The lyrics in the chorus were nothing but singing "Heartache Every Moment" all the time, so Kevin wanted Ville to add some more lyrics to the part. It worked, and the song is Ville's favorite song on the album. "Pretending" and "Please Don't Let It Go" were recorded again with Kevin. Ville says that "Pretending" didn't even sound like an own song anymore. But Kevin was a nice guy outside the studio, so the guys were hanging out with him in bars in Helsinki. The fun part is that Kevin learned a couple of Finnish words, "yksi, kaksi, kolme" which means "one, two, three" and "Koskenkorva" which is a Finnish Vodka, and also "Vittu" which means "Fuck!". The album was finally recorded. John Fryer is also mentioned as some producer on the album, but I don't know the story of that. But in the end Deep Shadows had 5 mixing guys: Chris Lord-Alge, John Fryer, Randy Staub, Kevin Shirley and Ville in "Love You Like I Do". And 3 producers: T.T Oksala, Kevin Shirley and John Fryer. Thank you for the info. I noticed when I was listening to the bonus tracks that some of the songs (In love and lonely, love you like I do) have a bit of a RR vibe. Heartache every moment was one of the first songs when I can hear a bit of polishing on villes vocals that transitioned from the more raspy razor blade romance techniques. So far, has any other album had any sort of changed like this?You're welcome I think any of the albums haven't changed too much from their original vision.
i love how they changed the versions later on tour in 2001 they did TRSNFRMNT version of Pretending, which is fucking perfect, or how they sounded in 2002 .... or 2003 version of Lose you tonight with the great soloon tour they sounded more like close to their idea of how the songs were supposed to soundWe always get the product of the band + label ..... exactly as it happened with DSBH, it was all supposed to sound heavy and different, but label said no and we got the final result as it was released...... I wish the guys just went on their own, doing their own fucking thing, not listening to the label opinions and dont even look on how it is radio friendly, just doing 100% HIM "product". I was expecting that from ToT, but i dont know the backround, still ToT underrated and not appriciated well by the fans, i still consider it as a very solid record, very HIM-like, but for me it is like unfinished tale... something is missing on ToT, you know what i mean?