The Sacrament
HIM => News & Rumors => Topic started by: six6sixways2love on March 19, 2020, 06:59:06 PM
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3 new songs!!! I'm in love and just in time for self isolation.
Gothic Fennica Vol. 1
1. Salute the Sanguine
2. Run Away From the Run
3. Saturnine Saturnalia
https://lnk.to/heartagram
(https://i.imgur.com/bVMSZYG.jpg)
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I haven?t been on here in months and was just about to post this I was on facebook and all of a sudden I see heartagram updates their picture the minutes later this definitely bringing light to what?s going on in the world
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I haven?t been on here in months and was just about to post this I was on facebook and all of a sudden I see heartagram updates their picture the minutes later this definitely bringing light to what?s going on in the world
Any time I see an update from the Heartagram FB, I swear my world stops moving for a moment.
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https://lnk.to/heartagram
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My boy is backkkk!!!!! 7 days after heart surgery to repair my heart! Thank you Mr.Valo! ????
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Yes, Ville is back!
Songs are ok ;D
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My boy is backkkk!!!!! 7 days after heart surgery to repair my heart! Thank you Mr.Valo! ????
Hope it went well my friend.
Beyond excited for this news can't wait to hear what's next, well after this coronavirus shit is done with.
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hell yes! the world needed this during this dark time!
hopefully more will come out soon!
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this doesnt seem to be available in the US yet. But, when I went to finland's itunes store i found there is a legit release of the stuff Ville did in 1998 with the agents....does anyone know where i could find those tracks?????
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Who are you people, and what are y?all doing on my lawn??
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this doesnt seem to be available in the US yet. But, when I went to finland's itunes store i found there is a legit release of the stuff Ville did in 1998 with the agents....does anyone know where i could find those tracks?????
Follow the Youtube link for US for now. It'll be on spotify tomorrow in the states.
Who are you people, and what are y?all doing on my lawn??
Got any TP?
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It’s on Itunes in the UK, only £1.49 for 3 songs not bad.
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HOLY. SHIT. This is a day I wasn't sure would ever come. I've only fully listened to "Run Away From The Sun", but it's very HIM-like. Reminds me a bit of Dark Light and Screamworks. I'm on "Salute the Sanguine" and it's definitely giving me Screamworks vibes. With everything going on right now, this could not have come at a better time.
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It’s on Itunes in the UK, only £1.49 for 3 songs not bad.
do you think you could buy them and reupload them here?
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I’ve bought them already but they’re easily found online or can be bought in the US tomorrow I’d imagine. They’re available on Google Play too for £1.29.
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HOLY. SHIT. This is a day I wasn't sure would ever come. I've only fully listened to "Run Away From The Sun", but it's very HIM-like. Reminds me a bit of Dark Light and Screamworks. I'm on "Salute the Sanguine" and it's definitely giving me Screamworks vibes. With everything going on right now, this could not have come at a better time.
It’s very HIM like I’d agree which I couldn’t be happier about. The 3rd song is a little different to the others.
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Word is Mige is playing bass, but I don't see it confirmed yet...
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do you guys think there's a chance we might see some Re-recorded HIM content in the future releases?
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And just like that, all is well in my world... <3
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I mean I guess if we?re all quarantined for the next 2 weeks, may as well jam this 3000 times.
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*AWAKENS FROM HIS SLUMBER*
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Run Away from the sun sounds me very pop and radio friendly... i can listen it all day... the radios will play it for sure...
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interesting why he choose to premiere his new songs in the same day as Flart Earth.... ;D the guys announced their new song to hit youtube on 20 mart 10:00 3 weeks ago...
ville didnt say anything and posted in midnight (10 hours earlier)... achieve 35 000 likes for 11 hours... in the next 12 hours will have 500 000 views on facebook...
also its strange he posted 3 songs together. thats never happened before... he usually is very thrifty when releasing new songs...
looks like a war... lion vs mouses... the winner is clear...
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interesting why he choose to premiere his new songs in the same day as Flart Earth.... ;D the guys announced their new song to hit youtube on 20 mart 10:00 3 weeks ago...
ville didnt say anything and posted in midnight (10 hours earlier)... achieve 35 000 likes for 11 hours... in the next 12 hours will have 500 000 views on facebook...
also its strange he posted 3 songs together. thats never happened before... he usually is very frugal when posting new songs...
looks like a war... lion vs mouses... the winner is clear...
I had completely forgotten all about Flat Earth and their new song premiere. It's interesting timing indeed, but it just goes to show that it may not be a sinister act and if anything something instead designed to actually help the band by reminding people that they exist in a roundabout way. I'm still not going to make it a priority to listen to the single, but it would've totally slipped my mind otherwise.
At first I thought that the songs were missing a backbone, like they could've used some more force behind them. But now I'm digging just how mellow they are. It sort of helps to differentiate them while still being in that familiar HIM wheelhouse, although I wouldn't mind hearing what they would sound like if they were made to be more rocking and in your face than they are. Perhaps Vol. 2 will ramp it up some?
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This is... unexpected
In times of the plague our Finnish Goth is bringing light.
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I love it!
It is (not surprisingly) very HIM-ish. More specific, it really reminds me of Tears on Tape (the album). It wouldn't surprise me if some of it turns out to be ToT-outtakes/ideas.
I do however really miss Linde's guitar. For example: a nice Linde riff/solo would have fit in Run Away of the Sun (around 2:52). It does start, but fades away way too quick.
(Same for Saturnine Saturnalia around 4:50. It tries to be Linde/HIM, and it is close, but it is not.) Flat Earth does has the typical HIM (Linde) guitar sound.
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It would definitely be interesting to know just when these songs were written/first started on. They might go back a lot farther than we would think, or they could be brand new compositions. Perhaps more than that, though, I want to be told who else is playing on the album and had their hands in the making of it.
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My skin when first listening to Saturnine Saturnalia...
(https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02443/goosebumps_2443265b.jpg)
When the bass and drums kick in...
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/f54932e6b9553a5538f31a5ddd78a9f3/tenor.gif)
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;D
Then Mige is behind the bass probably ;)
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Whaaa? Awesome! I sure am late. There was an odd "website update" on Rambo Rimbaud FB two days ago, it was a hint.
What do you all think, who's playing the instruments? The guitar sounds are similar to Linde's, but not sure if it's him playing. Ville can play anything tho, but maybe Kosmo?... Mige?
Run Away from the Sun reminds me of Love Without Tears and Drawn & Quartered.
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The big question now is what happens next. Is it near total silence until a Vol. 2/something else suddenly appears at some point? I feel like I'm getting slightly ahead of things by worrying about that instead of just enjoying the new music, but it's going to suck if that's it and we're left wondering about certain details still while all of the fans that came out of the dark go back into their hiding again.
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That's probably my first post since 3 years or so :o
But gosh, I have to say I'm really digging these songs. They have that typical HIM-Vibe, very melodic, great vocals. Run Away From The Sun fits as a single track for the radio. It's very catchy and reminds me a little of Drawn and Quartered.
My favorite is definitely Saturnine Saturnalia. Wonderful melody very bearing, gloomy and for me even has some small Venus Doom vibes.
All in all it sounds in the direction of Tears on Tape and could have been well written to that time.
The guitar sure sounds a little like Linde but then again I don't know could be someone else playing with his setup :D
Can't wait to hear more and get some official statements.
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So, are we as a community in agreement that the new logo shall be called the "Valogram"? Or are we going with the lesser, but still good, choice of "Villegram"?
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So, are we as a community in agreement that the new logo shall be called the "Valogram"? Or are we going with the lesser, but still good, choice of "Villegram"?
Haha...he personally owns the trademark right? I like that he added the V to it to distinguish that this is a Ville project (HIS? lol) and not a HIM project.
They're out on itunes now so I bought them first thing this morning. Had the chance to really listen to them in full and I love it. Like everyone has said, it has a Screamworks - Tears on Tape vibe. I do miss the Linde solos, but Runaway is definitely a radio-friendly hit in the making.
Yesterday the ceiling in one of my rooms had literally collapsed from an AC leak. I'd been wearing HIM shirts to the gym, so I put one on to clean the mess up when I get a text from Lenny with the new Heartagram/Villegram/Valogram and I didn't know what it was about. When I found out, it was such a welcomed sound and it lifted me up.
It's funny as about 2 weeks ago I posted asking what we missed about HIM...and here we are again.
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From Reddit, per Summa Inferno, and just to add some more confusion to everything:
http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg (http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg)
HIM resurrected under the name Heartagram, with Mige being a part of the new band, supposedly.
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if HIM was resurrected the songs wouldnt be titled VV.... Miges part is true...
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if HIM was resurrected the songs wouldnt be titled VV.... Miges part is true...
How do you know Mige's part is true? Is Linde in the band at all? I don't understand how that guitar CAN'T be his.
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There was no guitar solos that give away linde. The guitar still sounds like it could be his. Either way, ville always had a creative hand with how the albums sounded so replicating HIMs studio sound wouldn't be impossible for Ville
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There was no guitar solos that give away linde. The guitar still sounds like it could be his. Either way, ville always had a creative hand with how the albums sounded so replicating HIMs studio sound wouldn't be impossible for Ville
Neither did Dark Light really. Who knows.
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For me personally, nothing in any of the songs stuck out to where I thought for sure that it had to be Linde on guitar, but that's just my opinion. On the other hand, the bass sounds unmistakably like Mige's signature distortion (which can easily be replicated, sure) to my vastly untrained ear. On top of that, it just makes sense with everyone else's other projects and everything that we know (or at least can infer) about his closer relationship with Ville that he would be involved with the band over everyone else, but I could be totally wrong. I just can't really see Linde committing to Flat Earth for the foreseeable future and whatever this turns out to be on top of it. Flat Earth definitely has a limited shelf life, though, and I'm sure he's aware of it, so I guess you never truly know.
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There was no guitar solos that give away linde. The guitar still sounds like it could be his. Either way, ville always had a creative hand with how the albums sounded so replicating HIMs studio sound wouldn't be impossible for Ville
Neither did Dark Light really. Who knows.
True, nothing in DL was genuine HIM, Except burtons keyboard.
Then again, they made the studio sound sound inferior once they played it live. Linde did actually have some signature sounds in DL now that I really think about it. The under the rose solo, the riff in BTCD.
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if HIM was resurrected the songs wouldnt be titled VV.... Miges part is true...
I agree with this as the heartagram is decidedly different and he added the V and titled the project VV. I hadn't seen anything about Mige; and in typical Ville fashion, the news and info is sparse. I'm sure he'll do an interview soon and we'll get more info.
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Run Away from the Sun is like a legit HIM anthem... An Ode/Tribute to HIM, if you will. There's so many small lines from a bunch of HIM songs that you'd almost think it was originally a Demo... Or is it? ???
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Fennica is Latin for Finnish.
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Fennica is Latin for Finnish.
That makes more sense, but I also like the theory on Reddit about the MSV Fennica, a Finnish icebreaking vessel. Thus, this new music is Ville breaking the ice with us using those three songs which represent the next chapter of his career.
if HIM was resurrected the songs wouldnt be titled VV.... Miges part is true...
I agree with this as the heartagram is decidedly different and he added the V and titled the project VV. I hadn't seen anything about Mige; and in typical Ville fashion, the news and info is sparse. I'm sure he'll do an interview soon and we'll get more info.
I've never heard of the source before, but in all fairness to them I don't think that they meant it as Ville bringing back HIM proper. Hopefully within the next couple of days each of these things get straightened out, though. They claim that the band's name is/will be Heartagram rather than VV, but they could just be basing that on the YouTube account and not from any sort of yet to be put out press release or insider information, more likely than not.
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From Reddit, per Summa Inferno, and just to add some more confusion to everything:
[url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url])
HIM resurrected under the name Heartagram, with Mige being a part of the new band, supposedly.
Just to clarify, since I read it on social networks: Summa Inferno is not a Finnish page, is a Mexican page of music news and reviews. Thus, it's not a reliable source to announce it as official news.
The only thing that has been officially confirmed is that Tim Palmer was the mixer for the EP. I don't doubt that Mige is part of the project but is there any official confirmation?
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From Reddit, per Summa Inferno, and just to add some more confusion to everything:
[url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url])
HIM resurrected under the name Heartagram, with Mige being a part of the new band, supposedly.
Just to clarify, since I read it on social networks: Summa Inferno is not a Finnish page, is a Mexican page of music news and reviews. Thus, it's not a reliable source to announce it as official news.
Why would it being a Mexican source make it unreliable? ???
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From Reddit, per Summa Inferno, and just to add some more confusion to everything:
[url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url])
HIM resurrected under the name Heartagram, with Mige being a part of the new band, supposedly.
Just to clarify, since I read it on social networks: Summa Inferno is not a Finnish page, is a Mexican page of music news and reviews. Thus, it's not a reliable source to announce it as official news.
Why would it being a Mexican source make it unreliable? ???
Aside from the fact that Mexico is not Finland, and far from it, you don't find it odd that a Mexican source is essentially breaking news on a Finnish band?
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Well howdy partners! :)
If anyone has legit source tracks to share, please do by PM.
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From Reddit, per Summa Inferno, and just to add some more confusion to everything:
[url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url])
HIM resurrected under the name Heartagram, with Mige being a part of the new band, supposedly.
Just to clarify, since I read it on social networks: Summa Inferno is not a Finnish page, is a Mexican page of music news and reviews. Thus, it's not a reliable source to announce it as official news.
Why would it being a Mexican source make it unreliable? ???
Aside from the fact that Mexico is not Finland, and far from it, you don't find it odd that a Mexican source is essentially breaking news on a Finnish band?
Honestly, no. Not so much in this day and age and with HIM/Ville's worldwide appeal. I mean, what if it was a US based source like Loudwire that posted that exact same thing instead? More people would be inclined to believe it because of where it comes from due to a company credibility standpoint, but they're not based in Finland either, obviously.
However, I did make it clear that I thought that they were more than likely using conjecture and making assumptions after the fact of the music releasing rather than supplying us with legitimate confirmed information, just for the record. But I still wanted to pass it on anyhow because at the time there weren't very many sites reporting on the whole thing as of yet.
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Every statement which is not from official source should be taken as unreliable... whether it turns out to be true or not...
Also - statement saying HIM is resurrected when there is a new VV logo and the songs are titled VV and the songs are posted into youtube/heartagram not youtube/him...well doesnt sound serious to me..at all.
Gothica Fennica Vol.1 is out! I hope there will be 2 more - Vol.2 and Vol.3 including 3-4 songs... may be the sound will differ.... like uneasy listening... the s?ntimental side, heavy side.. so i bet vol.2 or 3 will be much heavier....
for me these songs are the ones who have been dropped from previous albums, because of not fitting well or because where not enough good... Ville is monstrously creative.... he is able to do whatever he wants with just one simple melody... these songs would be a good bonus tracks for ToT singles...
i dont think these are the songs that he were talking about "ready" for the next (9th) HIM album..these are something else.... he will tell us soon or later... maybe im wrong..
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Not to harp on it too much, but some of you guys are really misconstruing what ?HIM resurrected? means in the context of that Facebook post. But yeah, hopefully there's some official news soon about what's going on.
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From Reddit, per Summa Inferno, and just to add some more confusion to everything:
[url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url])
HIM resurrected under the name Heartagram, with Mige being a part of the new band, supposedly.
Just to clarify, since I read it on social networks: Summa Inferno is not a Finnish page, is a Mexican page of music news and reviews. Thus, it's not a reliable source to announce it as official news.
Why would it being a Mexican source make it unreliable? ???
Aside from the fact that Mexico is not Finland, and far from it, you don't find it odd that a Mexican source is essentially breaking news on a Finnish band?
Honestly, no. Not so much in this day and age and with HIM/Ville's worldwide appeal. I mean, what if it was a US based source like Loudwire that posted that exact same thing instead? More people would be inclined to believe it because of where it comes from due to a company credibility standpoint, but they're not based in Finland either, obviously.
However, I did make it clear that I thought that they were more than likely using conjecture and making assumptions after the fact of the music releasing rather than supplying us with legitimate confirmed information, just for the record. But I still wanted to pass it on anyhow because at the time there weren't very many sites reporting on the whole thing as of yet.
It?s all good man. And welcome to the forum! He meant no offense by any means.
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Well, according to Gas, he isn't the drummer. So that rules out one member. Could be kosmo or Ville returning to his drumming ways
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Hey also i wanna thank Ville for the way he released the songs... the thing i hated the most before was the long wait to the release date...
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Well, according to Gas, he isn't the drummer. So that rules out one member. Could be kosmo or Ville returning to his drumming ways
It sounds like Ville is drumming. In theory Ville could've performed all of these songs by himself. Burton may be playing the keys, but I'm not hearing anything that Ville couldn't play himself.
Now, I assume Mige, Burton, a drummer and guitarist will be the backing band if Ville tours with these songs/HIM songs.
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From Reddit, per Summa Inferno, and just to add some more confusion to everything:
[url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url])
HIM resurrected under the name Heartagram, with Mige being a part of the new band, supposedly.
Just to clarify, since I read it on social networks: Summa Inferno is not a Finnish page, is a Mexican page of music news and reviews. Thus, it's not a reliable source to announce it as official news.
Why would it being a Mexican source make it unreliable? ???
Aside from the fact that Mexico is not Finland, and far from it, you don't find it odd that a Mexican source is essentially breaking news on a Finnish band?
Honestly, no. Not so much in this day and age and with HIM/Ville's worldwide appeal. I mean, what if it was a US based source like Loudwire that posted that exact same thing instead? More people would be inclined to believe it because of where it comes from due to a company credibility standpoint, but they're not based in Finland either, obviously.
However, I did make it clear that I thought that they were more than likely using conjecture and making assumptions after the fact of the music releasing rather than supplying us with legitimate confirmed information, just for the record. But I still wanted to pass it on anyhow because at the time there weren't very many sites reporting on the whole thing as of yet.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. It was only a clarification since it started to go viral on Facebook on the assumption that a "Finnish page" confirmed HIM's return with Ville and Mige. Sure, there may be reliable sources outside of Finland but Summa Inferno is not a source we can trust as a source close to the band and who have given exclusives like Metal Hammer for example.
If you see the website, they no longer confirm Mige's participation:
"Surprisingly, Ville Valo has released an EP called Gothica Fennica Vol. 1. The curious thing is that it has been released under an aesthetic, the heartagram and a sound extremely similar to that used by its extinct band, HIM, which retired from the stage in 2017.
There is not much information about it, but the conjectures lead us to believe that Valo wants to retake the project, but without his bandmates, will it be? Time will tell. "
https://summainferno.com/ville-valo-lanza-ep-bajo-el-simbolo-del-heartagram-el-renacimiento-de-him/
By the way, I am Mexican, I didn't mean that being Mexican source means that it is not a reliable source. Actually, Summa Inferno is not really a serious page. It's a good website for music news, but also for jokes and fun. For example, they have mocked HIM and its fans a lot.
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HIM was basically all Ville. He wrote the music and lyrics, it's his baby.
I hope Linde, and the rest of HIM's ex-members play on Ville's solo LP.
Hopefully Ville tours this autumn or next spring/summer in the USA.
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HIM was basically all Ville. He wrote the music and lyrics, it's his baby.
I hope Linde, and the rest of HIM's ex-members play on Ville's solo LP.
Hopefully Ville tours this autumn or next spring/summer in the USA.
I agree. I think we all agree that HIM is/was Ville; no matter how unfair that was to the band. I said I didn?t enjoy Ville Valo and the Agents, Flat Earth, or whatever Wendy?s Drive Thru shit Gas played on. This 3-track EP was everything I loved about HIM.
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From Reddit, per Summa Inferno, and just to add some more confusion to everything:
[url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url])
HIM resurrected under the name Heartagram, with Mige being a part of the new band, supposedly.
Just to clarify, since I read it on social networks: Summa Inferno is not a Finnish page, is a Mexican page of music news and reviews. Thus, it's not a reliable source to announce it as official news.
Why would it being a Mexican source make it unreliable? ???
Aside from the fact that Mexico is not Finland, and far from it, you don't find it odd that a Mexican source is essentially breaking news on a Finnish band?
Honestly, no. Not so much in this day and age and with HIM/Ville's worldwide appeal. I mean, what if it was a US based source like Loudwire that posted that exact same thing instead? More people would be inclined to believe it because of where it comes from due to a company credibility standpoint, but they're not based in Finland either, obviously.
However, I did make it clear that I thought that they were more than likely using conjecture and making assumptions after the fact of the music releasing rather than supplying us with legitimate confirmed information, just for the record. But I still wanted to pass it on anyhow because at the time there weren't very many sites reporting on the whole thing as of yet.
I think you're missing the biggest difference here... Only they reported it which is why I mentioned "breaking news." Why would a Finnish band give the exclusive to some random Mexican place that relatively no one has even heard of?
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From Reddit, per Summa Inferno, and just to add some more confusion to everything:
[url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url])
HIM resurrected under the name Heartagram, with Mige being a part of the new band, supposedly.
Just to clarify, since I read it on social networks: Summa Inferno is not a Finnish page, is a Mexican page of music news and reviews. Thus, it's not a reliable source to announce it as official news.
Why would it being a Mexican source make it unreliable? ???
Aside from the fact that Mexico is not Finland, and far from it, you don't find it odd that a Mexican source is essentially breaking news on a Finnish band?
Honestly, no. Not so much in this day and age and with HIM/Ville's worldwide appeal. I mean, what if it was a US based source like Loudwire that posted that exact same thing instead? More people would be inclined to believe it because of where it comes from due to a company credibility standpoint, but they're not based in Finland either, obviously.
However, I did make it clear that I thought that they were more than likely using conjecture and making assumptions after the fact of the music releasing rather than supplying us with legitimate confirmed information, just for the record. But I still wanted to pass it on anyhow because at the time there weren't very many sites reporting on the whole thing as of yet.
I think you're missing the biggest difference here... Only they reported it which is why I mentioned "breaking news." Why would a Finnish band give the exclusive to some random Mexican place that no one has even heard of?
I'm positive it's bullshit. Ville hasn't been fond of giving information to big publications, let alone a small one.
I have a feeling the Coarona virus nixed his plans to announce his return through someone like Daniel P. Carter and do any in-person press since Finland restricted travel the same day the EP came out.
Not to mention just one post on Facebook to a link to buy the EP is all he needed to do. The music speaks for itself. And we've all been waiting for nearly 7 years to have a new album released.
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HIM was basically all Ville. He wrote the music and lyrics, it's his baby.
I hope Linde, and the rest of HIM's ex-members play on Ville's solo LP.
Hopefully Ville tours this autumn or next spring/summer in the USA.
I agree. I think we all agree that HIM is/was Ville; no matter how unfair that was to the band. I said I didn?t enjoy Ville Valo and the Agents, Flat Earth, or whatever Wendy?s Drive Thru shit Gas played on. This 3-track EP was everything I loved about HIM.
I guess I'm in the minority to view HIM as a collective. Every one of them brought something to the table. I knew when it was there and when it wasn't. The last tour w/o Gas felt weird. When one of the guys was having an off night, I felt it.
Whatever this new project entails, I don't want it to be HIM v2. We all lived that chapter. Some of us longer than others. I got my monies worth so to speak. I don't want to see Ville go into his middle years trying to relive "the glory days". It won't be the same and it'll just look sad without the same 4 guys around him. Like an aging metal dude still with long hair but now with a bald spot. These new songs, I could argue aren't really HIM songs. And that's what I want. Familiar but different.
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HIM was basically all Ville. He wrote the music and lyrics, it's his baby.
I hope Linde, and the rest of HIM's ex-members play on Ville's solo LP.
Hopefully Ville tours this autumn or next spring/summer in the USA.
I agree. I think we all agree that HIM is/was Ville; no matter how unfair that was to the band. I said I didn?t enjoy Ville Valo and the Agents, Flat Earth, or whatever Wendy?s Drive Thru shit Gas played on. This 3-track EP was everything I loved about HIM.
I guess I'm in the minority to view HIM as a collective. Every one of them brought something to the table. I knew when it was there and when it wasn't. The last tour w/o Gas felt weird. When one of the guys was having an off night, I felt it.
Whatever this new project entails, I don't want it to be HIM v2. We all lived that chapter. Some of us longer than others. I got my monies worth so to speak. I don't want to see Ville go into his middle years trying to relive "the glory days". It won't be the same and it'll just look sad without the same 4 guys around him. Like an aging metal dude still with long hair but now with a bald spot. These new songs, I could argue aren't really HIM songs. And that's what I want. Familiar but different.
Oh, I'm not saying these songs aren't different than HIM. For one, Ville isn't screaming or belting high notes that he can't hit comfortably anymore. The songs aren't as heavy as HIM. Guitar in this project seems to serve the song. There are no guitar solos.
But the melancholic atmosphere is alive and well in these songs, just like HIM.
Ville wrote the melodies and lyrics. It's obvious Ville allowed the guys freedom to make it their own sound and improvise in the studio.
This isn't HIM, but it's got the same vibe.
Kiss the Void would fit in seamlessly on this album. Drawn and Quartered too.
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I'm pretty sure that Ville is playing all the instruments and most of the tracks have been recorded at his home studio.
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From Reddit, per Summa Inferno, and just to add some more confusion to everything:
[url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i.redd.it/yt0ss5thzrn41.jpg[/url])
HIM resurrected under the name Heartagram, with Mige being a part of the new band, supposedly.
Just to clarify, since I read it on social networks: Summa Inferno is not a Finnish page, is a Mexican page of music news and reviews. Thus, it's not a reliable source to announce it as official news.
Why would it being a Mexican source make it unreliable? ???
Aside from the fact that Mexico is not Finland, and far from it, you don't find it odd that a Mexican source is essentially breaking news on a Finnish band?
Honestly, no. Not so much in this day and age and with HIM/Ville's worldwide appeal. I mean, what if it was a US based source like Loudwire that posted that exact same thing instead? More people would be inclined to believe it because of where it comes from due to a company credibility standpoint, but they're not based in Finland either, obviously.
However, I did make it clear that I thought that they were more than likely using conjecture and making assumptions after the fact of the music releasing rather than supplying us with legitimate confirmed information, just for the record. But I still wanted to pass it on anyhow because at the time there weren't very many sites reporting on the whole thing as of yet.
I think you're missing the biggest difference here... Only they reported it which is why I mentioned "breaking news." Why would a Finnish band give the exclusive to some random Mexican place that relatively no one has even heard of?
But it wasn't exactly breaking news, though, because like I said...
Ah, nevermind. Let's just agree to disagree on this particular topic, shall we?
Hopefully today is the day that we find out about all of what's going on.
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Wow it has been a while. Glad he released this under these tough times.
And omg this sounds like some of Ville Valos best work and sounds exactly like HIM. I like the post with the goosebumps because I played run away from the sun last and got extreme goosebumps lol. I ultimately did wonder if Mige or Burton would be on the tracks. There's no band member list on the website. It's killing me now, hope we find out soon. I'm hoping he will tour as well and think he can draw all the HIM fans+ .
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I absolutely love this lyrics on this, specifically Saturnine Saturnalia, so fucking good. Even the music on that one reminds me of cyanide sun if it had been recorded for Love Metal so good.
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Am I the only one wondering what this actually means for Ville touring? I mean, say he does have musicians tour with him, do you guys think he's only going to play songs he wrote himself for the EP or do you guys think he's going to have the touring guys learn HIM songs?
I'm actually curious to see how different musicians would handle playing HIM songs with ville singing.
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I absolutely love this lyrics on this, specifically Saturnine Saturnalia, so fucking good. Even the music on that one reminds me of cyanide sun if it had been recorded for Love Metal so good.
It's funny you say that, because I felt the Cyanide vibe as well.
Also, on Daniel Carter's stories....I thought I recognized the symbols. It's the Malachim alphabet that was used on ToT.
"Stay Home"
"Stay Safe"
(https://i.imgur.com/a7M1yAB.png)
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Am I the only one wondering what this actually means for Ville touring? I mean, say he does have musicians tour with him, do you guys think he's only going to play songs he wrote himself for the EP or do you guys think he's going to have the touring guys learn HIM songs?
I'm actually curious to see how different musicians would handle playing HIM songs with ville singing.
I have a feeling we're going to get an LP released later this year or early next year. He'll have a backing band and perform mostly new songs, and of course probably play Join Me, Wicked Game, Your Sweet Six Six Six and WLADE.
Hopefully Helldone comes back this year. It'd be cool if every year we'd get a few HIM songs with Linde, Mige, Burton, Gas and Ville.
Touring is how most musicians make the lions share of money, so I seriously doubt he's not going to tour. Due to postponements and cancellations of summer festivals this year because of Covid-19, I believe he would've played these new songs and 4 HIM songs (I could see a mix of acoustic renditions and using a backing band). I loved the rendition of WLADE Ville Valo and the Agents did.
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To be honest, I can listen to HIM all day but I have to point out the band's playing especially in recent years got a little stale. When the band started playing more rarities in 2014 during the LMA tour, I got super excited. However after about 3 songs in, my ears were able to predict how linde would play each solo with most wah, and none of the other band members improvised anywhere near as much. I could listen to a performance dating back from 2013 until now, but can barely hear a difference. Whereas if you listen to say anything from 2001 to 2003 theres a lot of distinction. The reason why I'm excited to see if the band that tours is going to play HIM songs is simply because itd be nice to hear them in a new element. I want to see what someone else can add to the mix. The reason why HIM stood out to me was because of how they are able to deconstruct a song and somehow create something eargasmic. I've loved that about them and unfortunately I've been left yearning for more. An acoustic set of HIM songs wouldn't be bad, though but again I'd want to hear it under a new light, like we did with the agents. Or maybe play something we haven't heard before. Hell, back In 2005 there was a snippet during the dark light sessions where ville picked up an acoustic and randomly played Vampire heart. I was sad we never got the full version.
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It doesn't really sound like ville would create a tour just for an LP. He'd have to play HIM songs, too.
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i'm not sure this songs will be played live... vol.1 sounds me more experimental... for now i dont see any tour
this is only my opinion* but i think Ville is not in good relationship with Gas... and may be there are some problems with Linde.... (dont take this serious , i dont know the guys ,im far away from them)
If he will tour i bet he will pick up Mige and Burton for sure... it will be strange to collect Linde, Mige, Burton, Kosmo for VV project...the people will confuse ;D
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I'm thinking there has to be an album coming out to follow. These tracks may or may not be on the CD but it will happen. A tour should come next and I'm sure he will play new stuff, a few HIM songs or maybe even covers. The first stops would have to be Finland then Europe. I would hope he would headline a tour in the US so we don't get a short set.
These songs are really growing on me. They sound very current compared to our gothic tone of HIM. I would like to hear a faster/darker song but you gotta give it to VV. For all we know he could be playing all the instruments. It's nice to hear the full hq track for first time vs playing the song lyric guess game.
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I love that this release is put out by Ville through his own label. Total creative control. And profits going mostly to the artist and his employees at the label instead of corporate suits.
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Upper body wear: https://everpress.com/vv (http://everpress.com/vv)
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It's been years since I've been here! Glad to see old friends are still around! Especially you Jay!
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It's been years since I've been here! Glad to see old friends are still around! Especially you Jay!
Aww! Welcome back!
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These songs rule and I've missed you all! :-*
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A graphic I made with the cover and the chorus/outro lyrics from Run Away from the Sun.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B-PxzR6ACjE/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/B-PxzR6ACjE/)
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That's pretty sweet, actually. I've always had a thing for Ville's handwriting.
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I don't know if it was mentioned in past posts already, but Mark Gemini Thwaite mentioned that Ville confirmed to him that VV's "Gothica Fennica" EP is a project perfomed by himself, he played all the instruments. Ville recorded it at his house. For now, the only one who has been confirmed to have worked on the EP was Tim Palmer as mixer.
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Some thought that they were definitely hearing Linde, while others (such as myself) felt like there was pretty much no mistaking Mige being on bass duties. It just goes to show you, if true and which it probably is, exactly how much of HIM was Ville himself all along. It almost makes me feel a certain way towards the other guys that I never did before if he was able to recreate certain elements of their sound/playing style so precisely and easily, apparently. Like, yeah he should be able to do a decent imitation of them by now and he has the advantage of knowing exactly what kind of various effects and settings that they use, but at the same time he probably still shouldn't really be able to completely fool someone into thinking that it's anyone other than him playing.
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Thanks for that
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I don't know if it was mentioned in past posts already, but Mark Gemini Thwaite mentioned that Ville confirmed to him that VV's "Gothica Fennica" EP is a project perfomed by himself, he played all the instruments. Ville recorded it at his house. For now, the only one who has been confirmed to have worked on the EP was Tim Palmer as mixer.
Well , interesting.
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I'm pretty sure that Ville is playing all the instruments and most of the tracks have been recorded at his home studio.
It turns out that I was right :o
After a few listens, some of the nuances on the guitars just revealed to me that it can't be Linde. Some people on the YouTube comments were so sure that it was lol. Also it really doesn't sound right to me that suddenly every HIM member would be playing on Ville's new songs that are completely his own work, his project.
Hopefully Ville will do a small tour to promote the stuff. It would be great to see him on stage again. I wonder who would be in the band.
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I still wanna believe that Mige has the bass part ;D no matter that Ville can play easily all the instruments...maybe except the guitar... ;)
honestly i dont listen the new songs anymore... waiting for Vol.2 ;D
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I still wanna believe that Mige has the bass part ;D no matter that Ville can play easily all the instruments...maybe except the guitar... ;)
honestly i dont listen the new songs anymore... waiting for Vol.2 ;D
Whaa? Ville can easily play the bass and acoustic guitar so I'm sure that he is good at electric guitar too. Most of the HIM demos are just Ville w/ his guitar. He's been doing it for at least 20+ years now, of course he can easily play it. Being good at guitar does not mean that you have to be able to play Linde's super wah-wah solos haha, but he's still good. For example on 2014 gigs, he played For You fingerstyle while singing at the same time, which is not easy.
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I still wanna believe that Mige has the bass part ;D no matter that Ville can play easily all the instruments...maybe except the guitar... ;)
honestly i dont listen the new songs anymore... waiting for Vol.2 ;D
Whaa? Ville can easily play the bass and acoustic guitar so I'm sure that he is good at electric guitar too. Most of the HIM demos are just Ville w/ his guitar. He's been doing it for at least 20+ years now, of course he can easily play it. Being good at guitar does not mean that you have to be able to play Linde's super wah-wah solos haha, but he's still good. For example on 2014 gigs, he played For You fingerstyle while singing at the same time, which is not easy.
yeah...that acoustic guitar really annoyed me that whole tour, should have used an electric one
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I still wanna believe that Mige has the bass part ;D no matter that Ville can play easily all the instruments...maybe except the guitar... ;)
honestly i dont listen the new songs anymore... waiting for Vol.2 ;D
I don't believe we'll be hearing any intricate guitar solo's from Ville in the vein of Linde. haha
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Whaa? Ville can easily play the bass and acoustic guitar so I'm sure that he is good at electric guitar too. Most of the HIM demos are just Ville w/ his guitar. He's been doing it for at least 20+ years now, of course he can easily play it. Being good at guitar does not mean that you have to be able to play Linde's super wah-wah solos haha, but he's still good. For example on 2014 gigs, he played For You fingerstyle while singing at the same time, which is not easy.
he played the drumms in Daniel Lioneye tour in 2014... i was talking he can not replace linde's guitar skills...not acoustic... but
maybe he learned some electric guitar he is very talent and he had enough time in the last..2 years..... :)
I still wanna believe that Mige has the bass part ;D no matter that Ville can play easily all the instruments...maybe except the guitar... ;)
honestly i dont listen the new songs anymore... waiting for Vol.2 ;D
I don't believe we'll be hearing any intricate guitar solo's from Ville in the vein of Linde. haha
indeed, and he'll not trying to...
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Linde and Burton would share the music via email and Burton would add his own parts before adding it into the mix. I don't see why Ville wouldn't do the same with linde
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**FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE**
April 2nd, 2020
Greetings fellow Sacrament members.
Due to (a lack of) recent and substantial events, I have thereby decreed the lowering of the HIM DEFCON level down to a 4, meaning that operations persist of increased intelligence gathering about VV.
It goes without saying that this is a big change from the 2 that we were under just recently with the surprise release of the EP, when the fanbase was put at a high state of readiness and able to deploy to the message board and various other websites within six hours.
However, as you all know this is still a rapidly developing situation. As such, please stay tuned for updates on any further changes.
Together we can accomplish anything that we set our minds on.
Thank you and God bless.
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**FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE**
April 2nd, 2020
Greetings fellow Sacrament members.
Due to (a lack of) recent and substantial events, I have thereby decreed the lowering of the HIM DEFCON level down to a 4, meaning that operations persist of increased intelligence gathering about VV.
It goes without saying that this is a big change from the 2 that we were under just recently with the surprise release of the EP, when the fanbase was put at a high state of readiness and able to deploy to the message board and various other websites within six hours.
However, as you all know this is still a rapidly developing situation. As such, please stay tuned for updates on any further changes.
Together we can accomplish anything that we set our minds on.
Thank you and God bless.
I'm way too stupid to understand this, and I read it 4 times.....layman's terms?
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**FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE**
April 2nd, 2020
Greetings fellow Sacrament members.
Due to (a lack of) recent and substantial events, I have thereby decreed the lowering of the HIM DEFCON level down to a 4, meaning that operations persist of increased intelligence gathering about VV.
It goes without saying that this is a big change from the 2 that we were under just recently with the surprise release of the EP, when the fanbase was put at a high state of readiness and able to deploy to the message board and various other websites within six hours.
However, as you all know this is still a rapidly developing situation. As such, please stay tuned for updates on any further changes.
Together we can accomplish anything that we set our minds on.
Thank you and God bless.
I'm way too stupid to understand this, and I read it 4 times.....layman's terms?
Haha. For the past several days now I've been wanting to make a post about how things appear to be back to normal in the HIM Universe once again, normal as in how they were before the VV EP arrived. But I figured that people might want to give me shit for it, so it's basically just saying the same thing as that except for I attempted doing it in an interesting and humorous way that I came up with while I was both sleep deprived and bored. Basically, it was nice for those first few days after the surprise drop seeing all of the activity in various places shoot back up and some excitement amongst the fanbase again, but it feels like it's back to business as usual now after we've all had time to digest the three tracks without any further news and clarification on things coming out in the meantime.
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**FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE**
April 2nd, 2020
Greetings fellow Sacrament members.
Due to (a lack of) recent and substantial events, I have thereby decreed the lowering of the HIM DEFCON level down to a 4, meaning that operations persist of increased intelligence gathering about VV.
It goes without saying that this is a big change from the 2 that we were under just recently with the surprise release of the EP, when the fanbase was put at a high state of readiness and able to deploy to the message board and various other websites within six hours.
However, as you all know this is still a rapidly developing situation. As such, please stay tuned for updates on any further changes.
Together we can accomplish anything that we set our minds on.
Thank you and God bless.
I'm way too stupid to understand this, and I read it 4 times.....layman's terms?
Haha. For the past several days now I've been wanting to make a post about how things appear to be back to normal in the HIM Universe once again, normal as in how they were before the VV EP arrived. But I figured that people might want to give me shit for it, so it's basically just saying the same thing as that except for I attempted doing it in an interesting and humorous way that I came up with while I was both sleep deprived and bored. Basically, it was nice for those first few days after the surprise drop seeing all of the activity in various places shoot back up and some excitement amongst the fanbase again, but it feels like it's back to business as usual now after we've all had time to digest the three tracks without any further news and clarification on things coming out in the meantime.
Ah, I see. To be honest, the 3 songs may have been released last minute due to the epidemic. I feel Ville had different plans with maybe a music video or a full album. But it could just be me talking out of my ass lol.
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Hello, old friends! Been a long time since I've visited (over two years!), but so glad I did! Love these songs, and can't wait to see what Ville's future holds.
Peace and love metal to you all x
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I'm just gonna leave it here:
https://www.discogs.com/VV-Gothica-Fennica-Vol-1/release/15672771 (https://www.discogs.com/VV-Gothica-Fennica-Vol-1/release/15672771)
;)
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I looove the tracks, Saturnine Saturnalia especially has been on repeat. They all still sound so HIM despite the other guys not being there
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April fools or not, there?s some type of teaser on the heartagram Facebook and instagram along with a new cover photo
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Today, at date 01/04/2022 (April 01, 2022), the social media accounts for VV in iTunes (Apple Music), Spotify, Facebook and Instagram have changed some things.
9:30 a.m. (UTC)
- VV logo has been modified in iTunes (Apple Music) (https://music.apple.com/fi/artist/vv/1605371692) and Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/artist/5QeGMmMBYG14aeTzkVny1l) with this one (HD (https://ibb.co/XxStRCk)):
(https://i.imgur.com/v7lqVAV.jpg)
9:40 a.m. (UTC)
- Heartagram's Facebook header (https://www.facebook.com/theheartagram) and Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/artist/5QeGMmMBYG14aeTzkVny1l) both modified with a picture of Ville (HD (https://ibb.co/yF3BcFD)):
(https://i.imgur.com/n2zYilZ.jpg)
11:40 a.m. (UTC)
- VV's account @heartagram (https://www.instagram.com/heartagram/) on Instagram uploads a video-animation of 1 minute in loop with a pink Heartagram transformation.
- https://www.instagram.com/p/CbzbP53Ikl1/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CbzbP53Ikl1/)
- Video download (v1): https://ufile.io/xmnp58fm (https://ufile.io/xmnp58fm)
11:49 a.m. (UTC)
- The first video is deleted, and a new one reuploaded, but this time with a heartbeat soundeffect and only 8 seconds of duration.
- https://www.instagram.com/p/CbzkE3xoLt0/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CbzkE3xoLt0/)
- Video download (v2): https://ufile.io/hxyjtsk5 (https://ufile.io/hxyjtsk5)
(https://i.imgur.com/bTbCF6w.gif)
12:40 a.m. (UTC)
- Facebook and Instagram change their profile description from "To whom it may concern: This page is operated by Universal Music as VV has forgotten his password." to "VV = VILLE VALO", and the number of followers in Instagram increases from 11.3k to 11.4k in the moment of uploading the video, and to 11.7k in a margin of 2 hours (HD gallery (https://ibb.co/album/qNZ2By)):
(https://i.imgur.com/7P3UxcI.gif)
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Update
NEW MUSIC FROM VV APRIL 8TH
Published: Tuesday, 5 April 2022 at 13:00
VV
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb9ypPqITT2/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb9ypPqITT2/)
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=754636358858769 (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=754636358858769)
Music Universal Finland
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb94tkFstrx/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb94tkFstrx/)
https://twitter.com/UniversalSuomi/status/1511299476790648833 (https://twitter.com/UniversalSuomi/status/1511299476790648833)
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=536034791289794 (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=536034791289794)
(https://i.imgur.com/Qtyq2XV.gif)
(https://i.imgur.com/6OyY2rE.png)
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Good job!
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NEW MUSIC FROM VV APRIL 8TH
Published: Tuesday, 5 April 2022 at 13:00
VV
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb9ypPqITT2/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb9ypPqITT2/)
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=754636358858769 (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=754636358858769)
Music Universal Finland
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb94tkFstrx/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb94tkFstrx/)
https://twitter.com/UniversalSuomi/status/1511299476790648833 (https://twitter.com/UniversalSuomi/status/1511299476790648833)
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=536034791289794 (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=536034791289794)
(https://i.imgur.com/Qtyq2XV.gif)
(https://i.imgur.com/6OyY2rE.png)
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This must be fate. I've been listening to a lot of HIM again recently ;D
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IT'S HAPPENING!
The new single is called Loveletting, and it is from a full album.
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Just saw the news and my first thought was: let's see if I still remember my thesacrament.net password... So here I am. Cannot wait for the new music and the upcoming tour called Neon Noir.
Details here: https://www.bandsintown.com/a/122?came_from=702&app_id=art-00000122-1gvnb7&affil_code=art-00000122-1gvnb7&utm_medium=web&utm_source=jump_page&version=3&utm_campaign=artist (https://www.bandsintown.com/a/122?came_from=702&app_id=art-00000122-1gvnb7&affil_code=art-00000122-1gvnb7&utm_medium=web&utm_source=jump_page&version=3&utm_campaign=artist)
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The name of the new album is Neon Noir and released early 2023
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Release date will be January 13th.
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We have to wait 8 months??? Ugh. Why release the single now, then?
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Just saw the news and my first thought was: let's see if I still remember my thesacrament.net password... So here I am.
Same
Came here to check if someone had already leaked the new single ;D
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We have to wait 8 months??? Ugh. Why release the single now, then?
Not the status quo in music industry nowadays, but we already know Ville likes to keep things old fashion.
I assume he's planing to release 2 or 3 singles throughout those 8 months, probably we will have some b-sides *Fingers Crossed* with the singles
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEBug_Pf2MA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEBug_Pf2MA)
Video premier tomorrow
? & © 2022 Heartagram Records
also there will be animals in the video :)
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We have to wait 8 months??? Ugh. Why release the single now, then?
Not the status quo in music industry nowadays, but we already know Ville likes to keep things old fashion.
I assume he's planing to release 2 or 3 singles throughout those 8 months, probably we will have some b-sides *Fingers Crossed* with the singles
Same here, I hope we can get 2 or 3 singles during this time, because since it is literal to wait almost a year until the release of the new album, but man the teaser sounds so beautiful.
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The album may not be recorded yet.
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Great to see you guys all alive.
I'm beyond excited about the news.
The sort of excitement only HIM or VV can cause!
I'll secure my tickets for Cologne next week!
8)
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New Teaser of music video:
Teaser Loveletting (https://fb.watch/ceTEWCtAVB/)
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I’m so jacked up for this! (The tour more than the album, but still excited for both)
Do we think he recruits any of the boys for the tour? Or goes with a new touring band? I could see Mige tagging along, and I’m praying Linde is on board… although that seems unlikely
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I’m so jacked up for this! (The tour more than the album, but still excited for both)
Do we think he recruits any of the boys for the tour? Or goes with a new touring band? I could see Mige tagging along, and I’m praying Linde is on board… although that seems unlikely
he will probably sing and play by himself ;D
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My immediate thoughts on the new song is that it's ok.
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My immediate thoughts on the new song is that it's ok.
Based on the 11 second teaser?
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I think the video will be very very good.
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My immediate thoughts on the new song is that it's ok.
Based on the 11 second teaser?
https://onlyfiles.io/f/47072cf28c604a9bae4a88c2be3aa39c
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My immediate thoughts on the new song is that it's ok.
Based on the 11 second teaser?
https://onlyfiles.io/f/47072cf28c604a9bae4a88c2be3aa39c
Thanks
I knew someone would share it with the rest
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I’m so jacked up for this! (The tour more than the album, but still excited for both)
Do we think he recruits any of the boys for the tour? Or goes with a new touring band? I could see Mige tagging along, and I’m praying Linde is on board… although that seems unlikely
Juska might've posted something about it... check it out https://www.instagram.com/p/CcDS25RI8kI/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CcDS25RI8kI/)
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My immediate thoughts on the new song is that it's ok.
Same
The song has too many elements. It seems to be a discarded ballad from Dark Light or SW.
Maybe I don't appreciate it at the moment because I was expecting something more like Run Away from the sun
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My immediate thoughts on the new song is that it's ok.
Based on the 11 second teaser?
https://onlyfiles.io/f/47072cf28c604a9bae4a88c2be3aa39c
Thank you :)
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It starting very good, then it doesn't get any better....
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It's similar to the Gothica Fennica stuff...it's missing the contributions of the band, particularly, Linde and Mige.
It's good, but it's different. It's softer.
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*throws extra pair of glasses, tums and ibuprofen in purse* this old lady is ready!! ;D
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Gonna try and secure tickets for Tavastia on Monday, luckily able to take the day off work as I’m assuming they sell out as quickly as Helldone used to.
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Does anyone have a clue how much tickets for the US tour might be, there?s Citicard presale tomorrow
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Thanks! Awesome!!!
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Does anyone have a clue how much tickets for the US tour might be, there?s Citicard presale tomorrow
Where are the details about the pre-sale?
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For hi-fi conservatives, it's available in FLAC | 48.0kHz | 24bit in some stores:
ProStudioMasters
https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/126821 (https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/126821)
Qobuz
https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/loveletting-vv/xz8foqb6xyybc (https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/loveletting-vv/xz8foqb6xyybc)
Mora.jp
https://mora.jp/package/43000006/00602445691777/ (https://mora.jp/package/43000006/00602445691777/)
OTOTOY.jp
https://ototoy.jp/_/default/p/1191492 (https://ototoy.jp/_/default/p/1191492)
(https://i.imgur.com/1hLdVAP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bDqyGgn.png)
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Does anyone have a clue how much tickets for the US tour might be, there?s Citicard presale tomorrow
Where are the details about the pre-sale?
Under the Facebook event (https://facebook.com/events/s/vv-neon-noir-tour-2023/1256167728242960/) page
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"Loveletting (7" Cut)"
Credits:
Producer: Tim Palmer, VV
Composer & Lyricist: Ville Valo
Associated Performer: Ville Valo
Co-Producer: Tim Palmer
Engineer: VV
Manager: Antti Eriksson
Mastering Engineer: Justin Shturtz
Mixer: Tim Palmer
Studio Personnel: Justin Shturtz, Tim Palmer, VV
Vocalist: Ville Valo
© 2022 Heartagram Records / Universal Music Oy
Lyrics:
Here in my heart's an endless sorrow,
tearing apart all that you and I could've been.
Love, you are the road I walk alone:
the endless night I keep dreaming of.
Two heartbeats out of sync with each other and crying,
dreaming of loveletting love (letting love).
Trapped in a loop, I'm chasing shadows
of all we have lost and of all that we'll never ever be.
Love, you are the song I sing alone:
the darkness I keep dreaming of.
Two heartbeats out of sync with each other and crying,
dreaming of loveletting love (letting love).
Two heartbeats out of sync with one another and dying (dying),
dreaming of loveletting love (letting love).
Dreaming of loveletting love (letting love).
Heartbeats out of sync with each other.
Heartbeats so far apart from one another.
Heartbeats out of sync with each other.
Heartbeats so far apart from one another.
Heartbeats out of sync with each other.
Heartbeats so far apart from one another.
Heartbeats out of sync with each other.
Heartbeats so far apart from one another.
Two heartbeats out of sync with each other and crying,
dreaming of loveletting love (letting love).
Two heartbeats out of sync with one another and dying (dying),
dreaming of loveletting love (letting love).
Dreaming of loveletting love (letting love).
And you're so beautiful, you are,
in the light of the setting sun.
Dreaming of loveletting love.
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For hi-fi conservatives, it's available via Mora.jp and OTOTOY.jp in FLAC | 48.0kHz | 24bit
https://mora.jp/package/43000006/00602445691777/ (https://mora.jp/package/43000006/00602445691777/)
https://ototoy.jp/_/default/p/1191492 (https://ototoy.jp/_/default/p/1191492)
For those who can't get around the region restrictions, try here. https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/126821 (https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/126821)
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For those who can't get around the region restrictions, try here. https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/126821 (https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/126821)
This is Radio edit, exists album version for download?
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Only the radio/7" cut version right now.
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For those who can't get around the region restrictions, try here. https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/126821 (https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/126821)
Thanks. I also noticed that they added Qobuz too. I updated my message with all the links.
This is Radio edit, exists album version for download?
Not yet. The full version will be released in 2023 with the album, which is the version from the videoclip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEBug_Pf2MA).
These are the differences between both: https://ibb.co/1Q3CJqZ (https://ibb.co/1Q3CJqZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/C8qjs7B/VV-Loveletting-7-Cut.png)
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The music video actually has the full version. It’s too bad they couldn’t have released the single with both versions.
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It 's a beautiful song ; Tears on tape style . ;D
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Am I the only one who thinks Ville's new teeth make his mouth look weird? Like they're too big for his mouth lol. I just can't not notice it lol.
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Am I the only one who thinks Ville's new teeth make his mouth look weird? Like they're too big for his mouth lol. I just can't not notice it lol.
Nope! I noticed it too.
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Nice to see some familiar faces are still around here! Hey people! :)
Not so excited about the new song and video but oh well, it's something!
If anyone has a legit flac please send me a message.
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Got tickets for Manchester and also Tavastia on the 14th and 15th but unfortunately the 13th tickets seemed impossible to get. Any of you guys heading out for the tour?
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Also got my ticket for Porto, Portugal!
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Got tickets for Warsaw, February 14, yesterday. They changed venue due to overwhelming interest (from Proxima to Stodola), causing some confusion among people who had purchased tickets for the original gig.
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Cologne, Germany here I come! 8)
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Valo is coming to McKees Rocks next year, pretty much Pittsburgh. I hope there's a meet and greet. Im going to the same venue for Garbage this June.
Wow it's been a while since I've been on here. Glad Ville is still writing and I hope he sells out every show!
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Do you know what happened with the official video ? :P
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New song "Echolocate your love" supposed to be released on September 2.
If we are lucky also a new video.
Reference Heartagram Facebook updates and some other Facebook group FloveR band & HIM fans.
Anyone heard more or got some secret files somewhere?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iur2X9E82D4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iur2X9E82D4)
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13 sec snippet to the song can listened to on Heartagram facebook page
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The song goes live at midnight on 9/2, local time. If you’re in Australia or NZ, or using a VPN, that’s pretty soon.
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where?
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https://youtu.be/AACINzdwdjI
It’s live, just have to VPN as Australia
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Here's a quick and dirty rip of Echolocate Your Love, so ya'll don't gotta wait till midnight in your territory.
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/34c2ec4204c6391f6e1fd1bd4ae3180f20220901144723/e153e4b5ea4482345d003d5f3b25d65520220901144749/ae2a71
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Have you got the lyrics ?
Thanks
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Thanks Daedalus.
Edit: How did you record it? The audio is very compressed and loud.
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Audacity recording of the YouTube video playing on my computer at work. This is the best I can do on my work computer lol.
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Ok haha, I'll wait until midnight and listen to it on Spotify w/ headphones.
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This version might be better. I was able to use Audacity to reduce the volume of the file, but it's still compressed as hell just cos of how it came from YouTube.
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/752fbf8a4e5a4c5ed12cae0867def2f520220901155258/473a79be269da82140608d6979d54e4e20220901155321/1c8940
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Video is really good wish they would post the lyrics..
https://youtu.be/iur2X9E82D4
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Hook me, Suspiria sunset
In technidollar hues
Our heartsick lupine lullabies
From the hymnal of the doomed
Night crowned us, drama king and queen
If you wanna dream what I dream
Don't close your eyes
If you wanna feel what I feel
Kill the lie
Echolocate your love
Baby, echolocate the heart of
Heart of, heart of locks
Echolocate your love
Pinpoint the poison
The last dance into the raging sea, darling
Beyond the hate of thee who bow up
On the devil's directory, next to
The hellhounds of Hecate, baby
Let's take the scenic route through hell
If you wanna see what I see
Go on and close your eyes
If you wanna feel what I feel
Kill the lie
I'm watching you and me my dear
We come undone, we disappear
Feel what I feel, oh
Kill the lie
Echolocate your love
Baby, echolocate the heart of
Heart of, heart of locks
Echolocate your love
Pinpoint the poison
Baby, echolocate the heart of
Heart of, heart of locks
(Heart of, heart of)
Heart of locks
(Heart of)
Pinpoint the poison
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Video is really good wish they would post the lyrics..
https://youtu.be/iur2X9E82D4
Hoot me a Suspiria sunset
In technidolor hues
Howl heartsick lupine lullabies
From the hymnal of the doomed
Night crown us trauma king and queen
If you wanna dream what I dream
Don't close your eyes
If you wanna feel what I feel
Kill the light
Echolocate your love
Baby, echolocate the heart of (heart of)
Heart of hearts
Echolocate your love
Pinpoint the poison
The last dance into the raging sea, darling
Beyond the Hadal deep, look love up
On the devil's directory next to
The hellhounds of Hecate, baby
Let's take the scenic route through hell
If you wanna see what I see
Go on and close your eyes
If you wanna feel what I feel
Kill the light
Woe to you and me my dear
We come undone and we disappear
Feel what I feel
Kill the light
Echolocate your love
Baby, echolocate the heart of (heart of)
Heart of hearts
Echolocate your love
Pinpoint the poison
Baby, echolocate the heart of (heart of)
Heart of hearts
(Heart of, heart of)
Heart of hearts
(Heart of)
Pinpoint the poison
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It’d be cool if they made a lyric video with Ville’s handwritten lyrics superimposed in the video. I’m hoping his social media pages post a picture of the lyrics once again handwritten by VV.
The rhyming scheme seems to indicate it’s “kill the light” to rhyme with “Night crowned us, drama king and queen”.
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Neon Noir tracklist:
01 Echolocate Your Love
02 Run Away From the Sun
03 Neon Noir
04 Loveletting
05 The Foreverlost
06 Baby Lacrimarium
07 Salute the Sanguine
08 In Trenodia
09 Heartful of Ghosts
10 Saturnine Saturnalia
11 Zener Solitaire
12 Vertigo Eyes
Release Date: 13 Jan 2023
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Pre-orders available: https://vv.tmstor.es/?lf=d5c975893724439be2ef786e2d27d6fe
Probably one more single will be released, possibly two, and we’ll get 7 to six new songs, and possibly re-mixed or even re-recorded 3 of the songs on Gothica Fennica, Vol.1.
I don’t like the album cover. Feels like the days of people liking Ville for sensual reasons is beyond us. A Heartagram is more well known at this point too. Oh well. And it seems like a little manipulation by Universal by not making it clear from the cover artwork that this isn’t HIM, because the only part that indicates that this is VV, is tiny little V’s on each of Valo’s eyes. Most people that will listen and may buy the album will be none the wiser that this is a solo album.
And, the album is expensive, and international shipping is 30 dollars. I’m just fine listening to the album on streaming services with high sonic fidelity. Half of the reason for buying a vinyl is sound quality, and the other half is the artwork.
Hopefully, the fans in the USA and elsewhere can buy the album on vinyl without the crazy shipping prices.
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https://spinefarm.merchnow.com/collections/vv
This is the U.S. store...shipping is cheaper!
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Pre-orders available: https://vv.tmstor.es/?lf=d5c975893724439be2ef786e2d27d6fe
Probably one more single will be released, possibly two, and we’ll get 7 to six new songs, and possibly re-mixed or even re-recorded 3 of the songs on Gothica Fennica, Vol.1.
I don’t like the album cover. Feels like the days of people liking Ville for sensual reasons is beyond us. A Heartagram is more well known at this point too. Oh well. And it seems like a little manipulation by Universal by not making it clear from the cover artwork that this isn’t HIM, because the only part that indicates that this is VV, is tiny little V’s on each of Valo’s eyes. Most people that will listen and may buy the album will be none the wiser that this is a solo album.
And, the album is expensive, and international shipping is 30 dollars. I’m just fine listening to the album on streaming services with high sonic fidelity. Half of the reason for buying a vinyl is sound quality, and the other half is the artwork.
Hopefully, the fans in the USA and elsewhere can buy the album on vinyl without the crazy shipping prices.
I don't particularly like the cover either, but as for the HIM and VV confusion I'd argue that it's the opposite... anyone buying this merch knows that it's not HIM and the Heartagram is different.
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05 The Foreverlost - out tomorrow!
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05 The Foreverlost - out tomorrow!
Very "Screamworks" like, a bit to light to my taste. "Saturnine Saturnalia" is the best one so far.
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Have you got the foreverlost lyrics please?
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Track list with song times, Loveletting is an entire minute longer, and Vertigo Eyesis the longest at 7:42, 56:33 in total: https://www.qobuz.com/es-es/album/neon-noir-vv/mir80ljs6rtsa (https://www.qobuz.com/es-es/album/neon-noir-vv/mir80ljs6rtsa)
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Have you got the foreverlost lyrics please?
We never run out of moons to howl to
Between the shadow and shame of love
Here's to the pouring rade of heart
Flare gun without now darling
With those sad aggro eyes
To this melodic avenge ooh
After Mordecai
Suicide by love's nightvision heart
I don't wanna die but I can't stay
Forever, the forever lost
Foreverlost in you
Forever, the forever lost
Foreverlost in you
We'll keep whistling the devil's tritone as
the necropolis of love in the dark
Here's to life eternal ah ah
Myth of our Shangri-La
Non stop finish, the lad of the heart
Hope meant my fold baby
Non dialed it up some dial it down
Dance to decay on the haunting ground
Moon dialed up sun died down
Come dance to decay now and then drown
Suicide by love's nightvision heart
I'm not ready to die but it's getting late
Forever, the forever lost
Foreverlost in you x3
Forever, the forever lost
I am Foreverlost in youuu
I'm Foreverlost in youuu
Forever lost in you
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Werewolves are a motif within 3 the songs on Neon Noir; moonlit hearts, hearts haunted roar relentlessly ‘neath the funereal moon. My favorite lyrics so far.
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Any news regarding the leak ?
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Any news regarding the leak ?
Haven’t seen anything not even 30 second previews or anything but This (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cm6Zs4xqZwi/?igshid=NTdlMDg3MTY=) radio station is previewing sometime next week
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I don't think we will be getting any leaks of this one.
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Albums rarely leak nowadays. Ironically I googled music albums leaking and clicked on this https://hasitleaked.com/ and on the front page VV Loveletting is in the top 10 with some quite big artists included. https://imgur.com/a/QrWEcys
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Maybe it's nothing new, but according to this site 1Advd.ch (https://www.1advd.ch/musik/Musik+CD/Vv+-+Neon+Noir+Hardcover+Book+Edt+voll/36383550?crf=cav), here are the lengths of the songs:
1.EchoIocate Your Love 03:25
2.Run Away From the Sun 04:13
3.Neon Noir 04:57
4.LoveIetting 04:50
5.The Foreverlost 03:30
6.Baby Lacrimarium 03:50
7.Salute the Sanguine 05:08
8.In Trenodia 05:04
9.Heartful of Ghosts 04:52
10.Saturnine Saturnalia 06:41
11.Zener SoIitaire 02:31
12.Vertigo Eyes 07:43
Total length: 56:44
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Was it leaked or not?
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Was it leaked or not?
No
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40min ago... check the torrent trackers...
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Thanks so much!
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Neon Noir, the song, is the most HIM thing on the album. It's amazing. It has flourishes of Razorblade and Love Metal and quite honestly I cried a little bit when I first heard it this morning. Ever since ToT, when I would close my eyes and imagine what a proper new HIM song would be, this was pretty much what I'd hear in my head.
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Great album, quite complex and it grows on you
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anyone got a link? the suspense is killing me and ive already preordered lol
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My fav songs- Neon Noir, Heartful of Ghosts
its a nice album... Ville save the best songs for last... Glad Neon Noir will have official video...
Still not sure if it was better to put Gothica Fennica in the album or just leave them aside and do 2-3 more songs for the album.... but as we know him they would be 2min instrumentals :D
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I think without them he'd have just put out a 9 track album, lol. I'm glad we have them so they are officially put on CD and vinyl.
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Could anyone post the new lyrics or something please?
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Or if you want you could post the booklet with the lyrics.
Thanks
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Thank you my spiritual friends for the much loved prelistening experience :) love it
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Listening to the title track, holy shit, I love it.
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Definitely in agreement with the title track being the standout. Excitement is building here stood at the airport heading to Helsinki for the shows.
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Agree that Neon Noir is great, but i have to say i do love Vertigo Eyes as well. Listen closely to the ending of the song. It has something very reminiscent of GLS V666 mixed in with some Agents style of guitar. At the very end, it seems to me that there is someone else singing, i might be wrong, but would love to hear some thoughts on these.
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The album is “For Christel” and “In Memoriam, S.O.S.” So his girlfriend and Seppo.
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Jamming this today...I forgot how much I missed his infernal majesty.
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Setlist-
Echolocate your love
Funeral of hearts
Neon noir
Right here in my arms
Loveletting
Buried alive by love
In trenodia
Wings of a butterfly
Heartful of ghosts
Join me
The foreverlost
Kiss of dawn
Run away from the sun
When love and death embrace
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Soul on fire
Salute the sanguine
Poison girl
Saturnine saturnalia
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Watching the videos already on YouTube I regret not getting tickets to nyc I was skeptical at first with this unknown band but I have to admit I’m impressed
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Trying to be as unbiased as possible towards songs that are new versus those that have been released for a while, I don't agree with Neon Noir being the standout "HIM" song. I feel that many of the others fit that category better IMO. Personally, I think The Foreverlost is the most HIM'ish song on the album, but there are many others that could easily pass as well such as Salute the Sanguine, Saturnine Saturnalia, and Echolocate Your Love. Neon Noir IMO sounds like a song from bands 'Lost' or 'Icon & the Black Roses' with a little bit of Rip Out the Wings of a Butterfly flair in the background... a song I personally never liked to begin with. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a bad song. I haven't seen the music video of it yet. I'm going to go check it out right now.
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His voice sounds damn fantastic. It was nice to hear his lower register, since it wasn’t really used to his deepest lows.
The band sounds great too.
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Neon Noir, the song, is the most HIM thing on the album. It's amazing. It has flourishes of Razorblade and Love Metal and quite honestly I cried a little bit when I first heard it this morning. Ever since ToT, when I would close my eyes and imagine what a proper new HIM song would be, this was pretty much what I'd hear in my head.
Yes , a very beautiful song ;D
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Watching some of the YouTube videos and it doesn’t seem like he was phoning it in like he was the last years of HIM. Of course it’s night 1, so I’m sure he was pumped to be back. His voice sounds great and the band isn’t bad at all.
Also it’s interesting to hear the HIM songs with 2 live guitars. Definitely adds a little more punch.
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It's interesting to hear the new band's guitar solos on the classic HIM songs and how they differ from Linde's originals.
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I wouldn’t be all that mad if these guys become his permanent band and continue on the HIM legacy as VV, or some other name. They are really good.
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Anyone know where the footage from this fan made video was taken from?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5ERkXOkUCA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5ERkXOkUCA)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXqYknUk9-g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXqYknUk9-g)